Aspire official statement on Atlantis coils material

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Here's a few pics of the new Aspire Atlantic OCC Heads. This is after frequent vaping for over 2 weeks at around 25 Watts on a 50W istick. Also, my hubs admittedly took multiple dry hits from empty tanks. I would say the charring is a direct result of the dry hits, it is just charring though not full combustion.

We're talking full on 4-5 second dry pulls...

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ETA: I've been using that coil since 2/13/15, so 18 days to be exact :)
 
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I'd like to start off by saying that I'm not new to vaping. I've been smoke free for 3 years this February. I'm just not a huge chat room fan. I didn't know where else to take since aspire is blatantly ignoring me. I've had my atlantis since they first hit the market. Paired up with my panzer mechanical mod and AW IMR 18650, it was great. But recently I've been experiencing the same problem as many others I come to find.
Now I change every single coil in every single one of my tanks (which are all aspire) every single Monday night. I'm just ocd like that. I fill all tanks with fresh liquid before reassembly. And yes, I prime the bigger atlantis and even my nautilus coils with more then enough liquid then watch to make sure the wicks are saturating completely.
I've been using the same exact 50/50 blend of milk and honey by Cosmic Fog in all of my tanks ever since my local vape shop started carrying it. I like it. And if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Usually when I change the atlantis coil it's just as white as when I put it in. But I change it anyway because like I said, that's just me. Recently I can't even get a solid 2 days out of my atlantis before I get a mouth and drip tip full of "soot"! I buy my coils from the same vendor every time and they are always authentic. I change them out more then any normal person should. I use the same liquid and device as I always have. So why the hazardous failure aspire?
I'm not here to bash anybody or get all scientific. I'm just simply sharing my story for any other people out there that may stumble across this due to the same problem or just doing their research before buying a new product...

Are those the old style coils, with ceramic/fiberglass filler, or are they the new cotton ones? Do you know? I can't tell from the pictures, I'm not familiar with Atlantis coils at all.
 

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Way too much e-liquid to be pushed through any type of wick, in my opinion. How is it the taste didn't change?

I totally agree. A good coil head can should be able to vaporize maybe 20 ml, 30 is pushing it, IMHO. After that it needs to be cleaned (dry burned if applicable) and/or rewicked. Especially when using cotton wicks.

I use clear, clean juices with minimum flavorings and sweeteners and I often vape unflavored, but I can tell the difference in flavor and vapor production after 20 mls or so, depending on the coil, the wick material and the juice.
 

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I have genuine Aspire Atlantis coils made from cotton so they defiantly make them in cotton now and there's tons of other proof to back that up. I'm hoping you guys already came to that conclusion though since this post is 70 pages long but anyway the Atlantis is a tank of the past now. The Starre from FreeMax tops everything else in the market including the Arctic and unlike the Atlantis, the Starre truly outperforms the good majority of RDAs and RTAs for flavor and vapor production. On top of that, the Starre has a 5ml juice capacity and is compatible with the majority of the other sub ohm coils on the market.

So I looked at that Starre tank. It may be great for some vapers, but certainly not for all.

I don't like vertical coils, I don't like dual coils, I don't like huge airy draws, and I have absolutely no need to vape a .25Ω DVC coil head at 100watts. :)

I prefer single-coil, Kayfun style, horizontal coil builds at 10-16 watts, tops.

And I don't want to go through liters of expensive eliquids weekly. ;)
 

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I totally agree. A good coil head can should be able to vaporize maybe 20 ml, 30 is pushing it, IMHO. After that it needs to be cleaned (dry burned if applicable) and/or rewicked. Especially when using cotton wicks.

I use clear, clean juices with minimum flavorings and sweeteners and I often vape unflavored, but I can tell the difference in flavor and vapor production after 20 mls or so, depending on the coil, the wick material and the juice.

Yeah, I was thinking about it and 72mls was probably a very high estimate. I went with the max amount it could have been, but seeing as the Atlantis is only one of the tanks in our rotation I think I should have gone with an average rather than max. In all honesty it could be anywhere between 36 and 72 mls.

If we vape 1-2 tanks/day that would average 3mls/day so 54 mls might be more accurate. I ran a few tanks of unflavored through it as well, when changing flavors and whatnot.

I also wouldn't recommend this nor would I usually use a head for that long, I wanted to see how long these new heads would hold up under normal conditions when kept within specs. Unfortunately my little experiment failed due to user error. (Not my user error though ;) )
 
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I'd like to start off by saying that I'm not new to vaping. I've been smoke free for 3 years this February. I'm just not a huge chat room fan. I didn't know where else to take since aspire is blatantly ignoring me. I've had my atlantis since they first hit the market. Paired up with my panzer mechanical mod and AW IMR 18650, it was great. But recently I've been experiencing the same problem as many others I come to find.
Now I change every single coil in every single one of my tanks (which are all aspire) every single Monday night. I'm just ocd like that. I fill all tanks with fresh liquid before reassembly. And yes, I prime the bigger atlantis and even my nautilus coils with more then enough liquid then watch to make sure the wicks are saturating completely.
I've been using the same exact 50/50 blend of milk and honey by Cosmic Fog in all of my tanks ever since my local vape shop started carrying it. I like it. And if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Usually when I change the atlantis coil it's just as white as when I put it in. But I change it anyway because like I said, that's just me. Recently I can't even get a solid 2 days out of my atlantis before I get a mouth and drip tip full of "soot"! I buy my coils from the same vendor every time and they are always authentic. I change them out more then any normal person should. I use the same liquid and device as I always have. So why the hazardous failure aspire?
I'm not here to bash anybody or get all scientific. I'm just simply sharing my story for any other people out there that may stumble across this due to the same problem or just doing their research before buying a new product...

If it just recently happened then my guess is that you are now running the new all cotton BVCs and you are running them at a power level that was fine for the ceramic wick version, but is too high for the new cotton wicks. Have you tried running them at a lower voltage or wattage? I haven't noticed any burned wicks in my cotton BVCs yet, but I did also turn the voltage down a bit because I didn't like the taste of my ADV, with my previous settings, when I started using the new BVCs.
 

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I gave some thought to what I liked about the old Aspire head design. Aside from the materials, it was a great vape as far as feeding juice to the coil.

Thinking about it I came up with this design, which I consider much safer and had terrific results with. If you're a builder and you liked the old design and you want some with no cons but the pros of the concept, try this:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ybrid-coil-kayfun-3-1-clone.html#post15439884
 

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    Hi fellow vapers, and all those curious !

    I just wanted to chime in here and say I feel wronged by Aspire's claims that the Atlantis was stainless steel, and I'm alarmed that it took me so long to find some hard data showing me that shards of crystalline fiberglass in the lung IS a problem, in my opinion. It's not toxic, it CUTS up your lungs, causing the same disease asbestos people get. Those roofers that were mentioned not getting sick were not sucking directly on a pieces of burnt insulation. The guys who worked with asbestos, which WAS put into crystalline form, DO have bad health problems.

    However, as I have to say, this is MY OPNION, and you are free to do what you like, naturally.

    I was let down by the Nautilus and now the Atlantis, so I've moved on to a Kanger Subtank (not a Mini or a Plus), and I'm very happy with the RBA style of it, it holds 4.2ml of liquid with the RBA mount (6ml with replaceable OCC (Organic Cotton Coil). Great hits, thicker vapor than Atlantis premade coils.

    All the best, and here's to vaping healthy and happy ! :vapor: :p
     

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    Hi fellow vapers, and all those curious !

    I just wanted to chime in here and say I feel wronged by Aspire's claims that the Atlantis was stainless steel, and I'm alarmed that it took me so long to find some hard data showing me that shards of crystalline fiberglass in the lung IS a problem, in my opinion. It's not toxic, it CUTS up your lungs, causing the same disease asbestos people get. Those roofers that were mentioned not getting sick were not sucking directly on a pieces of burnt insulation. The guys who worked with asbestos, which WAS put into crystalline form, DO have bad health problems.

    However, as I have to say, this is MY OPNION, and you are free to do what you like, naturally.

    I was let down by the Nautilus and now the Atlantis, so I've moved on to a Kanger Subtank (not a Mini or a Plus), and I'm very happy with the RBA style of it, it holds 4.2ml of liquid with the RBA mount (6ml with replaceable OCC (Organic Cotton Coil). Great hits, thicker vapor than Atlantis premade coils.

    All the best, and here's to vaping healthy and happy ! :vapor: :p

    Might want to update your signature then-

    In Use: Aspire Atlantis, Dovpo E-LVT Mini,
    iClear 30s, iTaste VTR
     

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    So it is using cotton as well as ceramic, I find nothing wrong with this at all. I find it funny that after 30 years of smoking I spend so much time reading every little small detail about this new found love we call vaping. I also find it a bit ......ed as well that we are so into this nitpicking thing that we blow things out of context. We are also giving the anti vaping folks things to chew on. Now I know health is not a matter to play around with and we do indeed need to keep our eyes on this stuff, but really we are our own worst enemy at times. All we are doing is giving one more thing for people to pick up and roll with in the anti vaping crusade.

    What I find disturbing is the fact that for 30 years APD smoker I never even batted an eyelash as to what I was doing, and neither did most of you. Now all of us are all over the place nit picking, while the enemy is at the gates.


    Very good post! I fully agree and the damage has already been done anyway.
     

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    Missing the point johnny. The issue we are concerned about is giving the scientific community fuel to use against us.
    All we need is for unsafe products to be out there so that the FDA can say "SEE, we told you so".
    Additionally...nobody knew and nobody cared about the potential health consequences of combustible tobacco. Now, with several generations of smoker data to draw upon we are in a position to make it better with vaping. In order to do this effectively we need a synergistic relationship between producer and consumer. When mistakes are made on either side of this relationship, the "enemy at the gates" will seize the opportunity to further their agenda.
     
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