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Noraj1067

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I've only had the Atlantis for a few days. I'm using a Hana clone mode. The battery life has significantly decreased. I understand that your battery life would be less with the Atlantis than a nautilus or equivalent, but I'm barely getting an hour of vape time. I don't know if I somehow I fried the battery, or if it's normal to have to charge multiple times a day, but it's getting really frustrating. I'm vaping at 25 watts which is 4 volts, so I can't turn down the watts any more. Do you think something is wrong, or is that normal function with the Atlantis ? What box mods work the best with the Atlantis ? Any troubleshooting or recommendations would be super appreciated. I'm starting to get antsy knowing that I can't vape when I want.
 

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Sub-ohm vaping is hard on a battery, no doubt. You're using more than twice as much power per puff compared to your Nautilus. And I find that the vape experience is so much better I end up vaping more.

Best you can do is get one of the better high discharge high capacity batteries (Sony VTC5, Samung 25R, LG HE2/HE4) are all in the 2500mAh range, and have a spare or two handy. :)
 

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I've only had the Atlantis for a few days. I'm using a Hana clone mode. The battery life has significantly decreased. I understand that your battery life would be less with the Atlantis than a nautilus or equivalent, but I'm barely getting an hour of vape time. I don't know if I somehow I fried the battery, or if it's normal to have to charge multiple times a day, but it's getting really frustrating. I'm vaping at 25 watts which is 4 volts, so I can't turn down the watts any more. Do you think something is wrong, or is that normal function with the Atlantis ? What box mods work the best with the Atlantis ? Any troubleshooting or recommendations would be super appreciated. I'm starting to get antsy knowing that I can't vape when I want.

That's interesting. One hour is not normal. 25 watts will drain the battery in about the same time with a 1.5 ohm setup as with a 0.5 ohm setup. How many mAh is your battery and approximately how many charge/discharge cycles does it have on it? Also, how many watts were you running with whatever you had on the Hana before?
 

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That's true..sub ohming can be hard on certain under powered mods..but the right mod for the job does wonders..case in point...
first can I vape my Atlantis 2 days on one battery charge on my IPV3 with dual 35A 18650's at 35w.. Also I get a full day vaping and then some on my 26650 BFM with builds as low as .12 ohms...both have great batt life, especially the all copper BFM..very low voltage drop and the 4200 mAh 26650 batt goes and goes and goes..
My point is batt life is not a problem with the right mod for the job. (I love to drip too..lol) also Atlantis shown with the 7ml tank from A-Mod..
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I've only had the Atlantis for a few days. I'm using a Hana clone mode. The battery life has significantly decreased. I understand that your battery life would be less with the Atlantis than a nautilus or equivalent, but I'm barely getting an hour of vape time. I don't know if I somehow I fried the battery, or if it's normal to have to charge multiple times a day, but it's getting really frustrating. I'm vaping at 25 watts which is 4 volts, so I can't turn down the watts any more. Do you think something is wrong, or is that normal function with the Atlantis ? What box mods work the best with the Atlantis ? Any troubleshooting or recommendations would be super appreciated. I'm starting to get antsy knowing that I can't vape when I want.

1 hour between charging cycles is not anywhere near normal, could be your battery or charger.

What battery(s) are you using? brand name, mah, cdr / amp rate.
Are you charging it via a built in charger/usb port or removing the battery and charging with a decent charger?
After charging is complete have you checked the battery voltage with a multi meter / dvom? not your devices display screen.
 
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My vaporshark rDNA 40 last almost 4 days with the supplied lg 2500 mah at 20-25 watts depending on the juice. Its the life of the atomizer that that stinks. Also when I throw it on the Aspire sub ohm the battery last two days. I'm seeing some real inconsistencies in regard to the Atlantis all over the web. I smoke generally thick 6mg at a fairly moderate pace.
 

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That's interesting. One hour is not normal. 25 watts will drain the battery in about the same time with a 1.5 ohm setup as with a 0.5 ohm setup.

I disagree. Even at the same wattage, you're drawing much more current from the battery at lower ohms.

25watts at 1.5ohms:
V*V/1.5 = 25
V*V = 25*1.5 = 37.5
V = sqrt(37.5) = 6.123
Amps = Volts/Ohms = 6.123/1.5 = 4.08

25watts at 0.5ohms:
V*V/0.5 = 25
V*V = 25*0.5 = 12.5
V = sqrt(12.5) = 3.53
Amps = Volts/Ohms = 3.53/0.5 = 7.07

At 1.5 ohms, you're drawing a little over 4 amps, while at 0.5 you're drawing nearly twice that much at more than 7 amps. A 2000mAh battery, for example, will last a little less than 30 minutes (of actual firing time) at 1.5ohms, and just a little over half that long (less than 17 minutes) at 0.5.

A higher amp draw leads to shorter battery life, and lower ohms (or higher voltage, or higher power -- they're all related) means a higher amp draw, no two ways about it. "When a baby throws his rattle, all the stars in the heavens move to oblige." To keep the same amperage at lower ohms, you would have to reduce the voltage (and thus, the power) as well, to compensate. 2000mAh means "two thousand miliamp hours" which is equal to "two amp hours." That means it can output a current of two amps for an hour, or the equivalent (one amp for two hours, or half an amp for four hours, or four amps for half an hour, etc.) Any way you slice it, it comes out to two amp-hours. So if the amps go up, the hours go down. Simple as that.


Math'd!
[Edit: Retract'd! See rebuttal on pg3.]
 
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All of your math is on the output side of the chip. The amp draw on the battery is the same.

...How does that even work? Now, I'm no expert, but I thought I had a pretty firm grasp on Ohm's law, and conservation of energy is one of the basic laws of physics. I mean, we're not all carrying around little perpetual-energy devices in our coat pockets, now are we? As the saying goes, "something's gotta give."

(Note: It's very probable that I am completely wrong here. This is my roundabout way of asking for someone to enlighten me further on the subject.)
 

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    All of your math is on the output side of the chip. The amp draw on the battery is the same.

    Disagree (but that's just me)

    There is no way a chip set increases the amperage on the output side only. If that was the case, we could make a batteries charge infinite.

    Remember, it's amperage drawn that determines charge life ... and nothing else.
     
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    ...How does that even work? Now, I'm no expert, but I thought I had a pretty firm grasp on Ohm's law, and conservation of energy is one of the basic laws of physics. I mean, we're not all carrying around little perpetual-energy devices in our coat pockets, now are we? As the saying goes, "something's gotta give."

    (Note: It's very probable that I am completely wrong here. This is my roundabout way of asking for someone to enlighten me further on the subject.)

    Good luck my friend, someone will be along shortly to refer you to a website that explains all. However in the mean time I know that I get a lot less time on my batteries in my VW mod when I run a higher wattage and I also know the manufacturer of the chips has warnings about using a battery with a high enough amperage rating when using higher wattage/lower resistance coils.
     

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    Enough chit chat - lol

    What Brand Battery?
    What Model # Battery?
    How old is the battery?
    What are your Vaping habits?

    Sounds like possibly a battery not suited for sub ohm vaping and/or possibly just worn out.

    I can run a .5ohm tank on a Regulated mod at 30w and get 3-4 hours or more out of a basic Panasonic CGR18650CH 10a battery

    I would not worry that it is the Atlantis or the Mod - likely battery
     

    Noraj1067

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    As of now I don't know the brand or model because it came with the mod from the store I bought, and if don't have a screw driver on hand. The battery is around 4 months old. What I'll do is buy a new battery tomorrow before buying a new mod and see if that helps. I just wanted to make sure that wasn't he norm before I went to the b&m tomorrow. What batteries are the best? I think they sell sony.

    Enough chit chat - lol

    What Brand Battery?
    What Model # Battery?
    How old is the battery?
    What are your Vaping habits?

    Sounds like possibly a battery not suited for sub ohm vaping and/or possibly just worn out.

    I can run a .5ohm tank on a Regulated mod at 30w and get 3-4 hours or more out of a basic Panasonic CGR18650CH 10a battery

    I would not worry that it is the Atlantis or the Mod - likely battery
     

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    Sony - try and get a VTC4
    Also Samsung 25R and LG/HE's are very reliable
    Next down the list might be EFEST 2500mah Purple battery

    Start at the top, no since cheating yourself

    And I'm convinced that purple EFEST 2500mAH units are just LG HE2's with a generally higher price tag and an overly-thick re-wrap. :)
     

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    This is a great discussion..that said I just tried a .8 ohm build on dual freshly charged 2600 mAh I8650 batts at 60w..(6.9v) vaping about an hour batts were down 40%..I'm gonna try another build at .2 ohms at whatever watts it takes to get 6.9v. Will see for myself which build has longer batt life in my IPV3..You guys have me curious... Lol

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