atlantis vs subtank (reg,mini,nano) vs delta 2 vs arctic

[Stinkytofus]

i got the atlantis, quite happy with everything, the looks, the antileak design, EXCEPT dry hits above 30watts and the small tank size, got the 5ml coming in this week, still on my frist coil too, waiting for it to burn out and i will rebuild it =)

got the subtank too, tighter draw than atlantis, more flavor, less vapor, but kind of big and dont want to spend on another subtank mini or nano

delta 2 looks promising, no dry hits at higher wattages but the whistling when you draw is kind of... turning me away on top of the fact the tank is not clean friendly, even tho its reviewed as being better than atlantis (vapor wise) and subtank (flavor wise) and some users reporting... nothing special

arctic .2 and .8ohm tank with rba... with quad airflows... looks like what atlantis shouldve been, looks awesome but is not widely available yet

i got the delta 2 ready to be purchased but... but deep down inside i kinda want to pick up the arctic instead

 

[Croak]

Despite "common knowledge" saying the Atlantis is power hungry and does best at 35w, I don't think it's suited for more than 30w (and neither does Aspire based on what they printed on the coils!).

And even 30w is hard on the coils. That very thin layer of cotton (real cotton) that's touching the coils will go bad fast with too much power, then you're wicking directly from the mystery material which doesn't even make good contact with the three resistance loops of the Atlantis coil that actually heat up (it's R-NR wire, and obviously most of it is NR).

Keep it below that, though, and lifespan goes way up and you don't lose much flavor IMHO.

 

[vincom]

+1 for subtank mini, easy to rewick or rebuild stock coils plus has an rba deck
but arctic sounds interesting but havent seen one yet, dont care for the delta as i need an easy way to fill the tank and bigger sight glass for juice level

 

[Niten13]

What is this Arctic tank google did not come up with anything? Link?

 

[FCastle]

$5 a pop for coils for the Delta II, and having to buy the RBA deck separately is a deal breaker for me. Basically $55 for the Delta II and RBA kit to get the same equipment that the Subtank Mini comes with for $33. And almost twice as much for replacement coils.

 

[WeirdWillie]

As a side note on the Delta 2, I was totally disappointed with the flavor, and the RBA deck is identical in size as a kayfun.
I was hoping I finally found a fill and go tank, but for me it looks like clearos just don't do it for me.

That being said the Delta 2 does have better air flow than the Atlantis, but whistles like a teapot, slightly better flavor than the subtank which ain't saying much.

For me the Lemo is still top dog for flavor and vapor.

 

[BrentB423]

Love my delta 2. Coils were 5 for 20. I have an Atlantis and a subtank also

 

[IanDVaypes]

The whistle killed the vape for me. The delta 2 has an amazing vape but the whistle.... Feels like someone is scratching the chalk board. Was able to fix the whistle with a grinder buy smoothing out the edges of the air inlet.

 

[Stinkytofus]

i think i might drop money on the arctic... looks good, type arctic sub ohm and it should pop up 2 vendors who sells them, not alot of people know about it

delta 2 is not worth the money IMO, but in a sense it combines the good attributes of atlantis (antileak) and subtank (rba option) together, just afraid aspire come out with 0.2 ohm tank next lolz

 

[JC87]

Id go with the Subtank Mini (just make sure you have the brown insulators for your RBA deck). The flavor is amazing, it hits just as hard as an Atlantis, is much easier to clean than a Delta ii (and holds more juice than either the delta ii or the atlantis) and the RBA deck come with it instead of having to purchase one separately like the delta ii

 

[Flyer]

I routinely vape my Atlantis at 38 W with 80% VG juices and have no burning or dry hits. I've gone a good bit higher in power as well without problems, but 38 is where I'm most happy. I do vape at the widest airflow setting. maybe those having these problems are using more restricted airflow settings.

 

[Croak]

I routinely vape my Atlantis at 38 W with 80% VG juices and have no burning or dry hits. I've gone a good bit higher in power as well without problems, but 38 is where I'm most happy. I do vape at the widest airflow setting. maybe those having these problems are using more restricted airflow settings.

Or not drawing as hard...not everyone has high altitude adapted lungs.

But seriously, you'd need to be pulling a LOT of air past that coil to keep it cool enough at 38w to keep it from toasting.

 

[tank49]

I too use 80% VG juice, & the only problem i had at 34w was my old tore up lungs can't handle it as an ADV.

You make a Very good point about the airflow needing to be wide open at higher watts, for those who prefer warmer vape.

After 10 weeks of vaping several Atlantis tanks in rotation, one at 34w & the rest all on mechs, i think the earlier poster made some good points also. I get a great ADV on mech mods, at 23-28 watts depending on battery charge & if 1 or 2 batt mod. Great taste, the vapor production w/dual parallel 26650 mech box at 28 watts & only .13 voltage drop w/ .5 coil is at least as good as 34w on regulated dual parallel 18650 mod, & just the right temperature for old lungs.

I have not yet had to change a coil, & i think these coils on mech mods at 23-28w will last at least as long as Naut 1.6 ohm bvc's (which i was able to vape 100 mls+/each w/ light color juices w/o added sweeteners)

I dont doubt that your coil can handle 38 watts w/enough airflow. Wish i had your lungs.

Waiting to get a Delta 2 in the mail. Arctic tank i am still researching. May get a Smok VC tank once the Atlantis compatible coils are out. These new "clearo" tanks are great !!

Edit- Am actually pulling 28.56 watts w/my dual battery mech mods & fresh batts, & 23 watts is only on a single 18650 mech when both tank & battery need fill & charge. And yes, at 23w it's rather weak. Same setup pulls 27.5 watts from fresh batt.

 

[Stinkytofus]

supposedly a new tank is arriving too, the freemax starre tank, does 0.25 ohm and 0.5 ohm coils, airlow is two cyclops that looks bigger than atlantis

 

[Arvidx]

Quick video on the Delta II. Been using it on mechs for a while and now on an IPV Mini 2 70 watt for a few days and I'm blown away.

 

[shreduhsoreus]

I haven't used one, but the Delta II seems like an epic fail to me. The annoying whistle, hard to see the contents of the tank, hard to clean, expensive coils, RBA deck sold separately...Just...no. I'll pass haha.

Subtank Mini is what I have and use exclusively now. Airflow is much better than the OG Subtank and on par with the Atlantis(if not better). I love everything about this tank from the performance, tank capacity(though the way I vape I need a 10ml tank lol), how easy it is to re-wick the OCC, how easy the RBA deck is to build on for someone new to rebuilding, airflow, flavor...I could go on and on

I don't own an Atlantis, but my local shop has a max VG brand of juice that they have in Atlantis tanks for trying out, and I used every one of them lol. They're good tanks but overall I like my Subtank Mini better.

Only recently heard about the Arctic so I don't know much about it, I'll have to do some searching.

 

[vincom]

theres also SmokTech VCT, 4 different coil types, has a rba or as they call it "diy", looks very promising

 

[iwarzon]

I love my Atlantis I like it a bit better with the eleaf Melo coils @ 24-28 watts
I love my Arctic using the .2 ohm coils the .5's are like using the 1.2's in the Kanger sub tank imho

All shops sold out of the Arctics Sub Tank super fast and most will be re upped this week as the shipments came in. (some are selling on the bay upwards of 70.00 unreal)

 

[Slackitude]

I have three 5ml Atlantis tanks and three Subtank Minis. I run the Subtank at 18-22 watts, the Atlantis at 25-28 watts. I think the flavor on the Subtank with the .5 OCC is a tad better than the Atlantis, but only very slightly. I don't have any of the new cotton coils for the Atlantis yet, maybe that will make a difference.

I bought a Delta II since everyone was raving about it, I don't care for it at all. Way too hard to fill and the performance is really meh. I don't get the hype on this one.

Subtank RBA: I've tried it a few times but I'm a crappy builder. With the stock coil and japanese cotton, I get a weird taste no matter what I do. Maybe it's those insulators. Ordered a new set from Kanger in case I ever want them.

 

[Zod]

I have the Arctic, the Atlantis, Subtank Mini, and Subtank Nano. I've never tried the Delta.

The Subtanks have it for the flavor department. If you vape complicated juices the Subtanks will give you all those nuances you'd expect from a nice RDA at conservative wattages. I think it has to do with the way the Atlantis and Arctic channels the airflow through the center of the coil vs the Subtanks that channel it around the coil. Likely making more air actually contact the coils. Rebuildable deck is included with the Mini and fullsize but I rarely use it as it performs no better than the prebuilt heads plus those can be rebuilt quite easily themselves. I'd almost say the prebuilts wick slightly better as I can often notch the Sigelei past 30 watts on them but get punished quickly if I attempt to on the RTA deck.

The Atlantis is a slightly more airy draw than the Subtanks but seems to absorb an extra 5-10 watts without dry hits. Good flavor only barely muted vs the Subtank but leaning to larger clouds due to that slight airflow increase. Rebuilding these is a total PITA in comparison but can be done carefully. Just buy the heads to avoid frustration. An upside is the recent availability of a longer tank to increase capacity. That's just a win/win in the portability dept. especially if you already have an Atlantis.

The Arctic is more of an Atlantis on steroids. Very similar head design just with huge wicking holes allowing 2-3X the wattage. Still have yet to hit it dry. Honestly the vapor's temperature will make you turn it back down long before dry hits will. Saturate an Atlantis head then hit it once quickly @ 70 watts and you'll experience what the Arctic can offer. For once, the hype is well earned. There are some cons though: First, 3ml capacity is laughable with how fast 100 watts can guzzle your liquid. An upgraded tank will be a sure thing but may not become available for a bit. Second, this thing almost has too much hype around it so it's hard to get your hands on one and it's replacement heads. Of course Horizon will ramp up production on these and this problem will most likely solve itself. Third, I haven't attempted it yet but it would appear that rebuilding these heads would likely be as difficult as rebuilding the Atlantis heads. Small knock: I wish it had even more airflow to match it's ridiculous ability to soak up the watts.

The Freemax Starr, High Voltage, and a couple others I can't remember the names of right now are very close in design and performance to the Arctic and also are very hard to keep in stock. I went with the Arctic though as it's the one with all the hype. Not that it will perform any better for it but the one with hype = the one everyone will buy = the one that will enjoy a longer support life with replacement heads, tanks, accessories etc. due to a larger installed base. With it's excellent performance and ability to never hit dry it has replaced my Subtank as my go to but not quite retired it. There's still flavor nuances that I can only pick up with the Subtank or an RDA.