Atomizer and other stuff

[Rar]

Hi All....

I received my Riva 510 this last Saturday and I LOVE it. I ordered a few juices and have had fun experimenting. Now, I have a couple of questions I would appreciate some help with.

First one, is the fiber stuff seems to dry out really quickly. I start to get the burnt taste, then I pull the cartridge off the atomizer and the polyfill sticks to the atomizer Then, I have to handle a partially wet polyfill and mess with that. I was thinking of getting the Blu foam What do you folks think of that? Or...do allot of folks use cartomizers?

Also, I cleaned my first atomizer by soaking it in 90% alcohol, blowing it out and letting it air dry for 2 days. This morning I tried to use it and 'nothing'. Not even a fizzle. What do you think happened? I have my second one soaking now and I'm afraid I'm going to lose that one too.

 

[Kent C]

Hi All....

I received my Riva 510 this last Saturday and I LOVE it. I ordered a few juices and have had fun experimenting. Now, I have a couple of questions I would appreciate some help with.

First one, is the fiber stuff seems to dry out really quickly. I start to get the burnt taste, then I pull the cartridge off the atomizer and the polyfill sticks to the atomizer Then, I have to handle a partially wet polyfill and mess with that. I was thinking of getting the Blu foam What do you folks think of that? Or...do allot of folks use cartomizers?

Also, I cleaned my first atomizer by soaking it in 90% alcohol, blowing it out and letting it air dry for 2 days. This morning I tried to use it and 'nothing'. Not even a fizzle. What do you think happened? I have my second one soaking now and I'm afraid I'm going to lose that one too.

The surface of the blue foam is such that it won't grab the metal mesh on the bridge as easily so that's a good choice, imo. I used a blue foam plug with the straw mod.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/11421-cart-mod-better-refilling.html

I used a J&J Qtip safety swab shaft - which imo works better than the coffee stirrer. The blue foam plug (from marineland fish tank filter - available almost anywhere - walmart should have it - is cutting the blue foam just a bit larger on all sides than the top of the cart and then cutting it only about 3/8th deep. It stays on top - straw along the curved side of the cart - and the rest of the cart well is filled with ejuice only. If it leaks then you cut the sides or depth of the foam too short. The sides of the foam should act as a spring action against the sides of the cart well so it doesn't drop down. The atty bridge will determine how deep it will go. Best wicking, no leaks when done right and the bridge won't grab the foam like it does the fiber filler. More ejuice in the cart as well. The straw helps for filling - you'll see bubbles come out the top of the straw. I do a diagonal cut on the top too just to keep it off the bridge. long side against the cart well...

 

[MickeyRat]

Personally, I have used the straw mod and I liked it. A lot of people like the blue foam. I'm sensitive to the taste of plastic. To me it kills the taste. I think that's why I didn't much care for the eGo-T. So, I'm not a fan. Right now, I'm either dripping or using a cartomizer.

 

[Kent C]

Personally, I have used the straw mod and I liked it. A lot of people like the blue foam. I'm sensitive to the taste of plastic. To me it kills the taste. I think that's why I didn't much care for the eGo-T. So, I'm not a fan. Right now, I'm either dripping or using a cartomizer.

If you're using a cartomizer with any filler then it's the same material - Polyethylene terephthalate (PET) - same as PTB, filler, blue foam, tanks... just different forms of it. For many, it's mostly apparent in cartomizers but then tastes are subjective and some people don't taste the strained through a tshirt taste of cartos or the plastic in the others.

 

[Rar]

I'm thinking it's pretty messy. I'm always checking my carts for dryness and handling the material, turning it over, etc. I don't know what happened to my atomizer. I'm really disappointed. It seems pretty dead. On the other hand, cartomizers are pretty expensive and it seems I would have more trouble filling them. Would I need a syringe?

 

[Kent C]

I'm thinking it's pretty messy. I'm always checking my carts for dryness and handling the material, turning it over, etc. I don't know what happened to my atomizer. I'm really disappointed. It seems pretty dead. On the other hand, cartomizers are pretty expensive and it seems I would have more trouble filling them. Would I need a syringe?

Some do. or a needle tipped bottle. There are many ways to fill cartos. Here's one:




Then there's:

 

[dormouse]

I don't use the condom method to fill cartos. Some think it shortens their life. This is a great video showing filling a Vapor4Life carto (very similar, different threading) and this video includes straightening the center channel which is something you may need to do later in the life of a carto if the center channel gets crooked and the drag get hard. I hold a bit of tissue on the threaded end when filling, rotate as I add juice, and when done I tilt the open end down, blow into the threaded end to clear the air channel (Boges also have a defined center channel - you should be able to see light through it) then if there is any loose liquid pooled above the stuffing I sop it up. After filling a dry blank I lay it on different sides for 10-15 minutes to make sure every single it of stuffing has absorbed liquid (else you can singe the stuffing and ruin the taste)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pyzOGQ0tMo

carts - get blue foam stuffing - go to strictlyejuice.com and for under $1 get 10 pieces of precut blue foam for 510 carts

cartos - I like Boge a lot. WIth Riva you can use both standard and low resistance Boge soft caps

 

[Rar]

I am looking at the blue foam and it seems by following these directions, the juice is going to flow right out the hole. Can this be right?

 

[Rar]

I am looking at the blue foam and it seems by following these directions, the juice is going to flow right out the hole. Can this be right?

http://https://strictlyejuice.com/pics/blue%20foam%20cartridge%20instructions.jpg[/IMG]

 

[Rar]

Sorry about those links....I couldn't get the picture to post. Anyway, the directions from Strictly E-Juice, say to: 1) Remove original fluval from cartridge 2) fill cartridge 3/4 full of e-juice 3) place blue foam cartridge filler inside. As I said, this doesn't seem like it would work. Does anyone do it this way?

 

[bander68]

It made no sense to me either until I took a cart apart. Stick a paper clip in the hole on the mouth piece part of the cart and pop the end out. Inside there is another piece you can remove the same way. Now hold the rest of the cart up to a light and look through it. Now look at the cart on the other end that connects to the atty. Notice those two openings on the side? That's where the air comes in. I can't describe it very well, but it makes perfect sense when you examine it closely. My cart filling method is simple.
1. Remove blue foam with tweezers.
2. Add 10 drops to cart.
3. Replace blue foam.
4. Add 1 or 2 more drops to top of foam
5. Enjoy!

 

[DC2]

Also, I cleaned my first atomizer by soaking it in 90% alcohol, blowing it out and letting it air dry for 2 days. This morning I tried to use it and 'nothing'. Not even a fizzle. What do you think happened? I have my second one soaking now and I'm afraid I'm going to lose that one too.

Well, that is definitely long enough to let it dry, so it isn't a problem with it still being a bit wet.
It could be a lot of things though, so it would help if you told us exactly what you did before you tried it.

For instance, maybe you put a bunch a drops in to prime it, and now it's flooded.
If so, you can blow it out and start over.

Or maybe you didn't prime it at all, stuck a cartridge on it, and expected it to work immediately.
If so, you need to give the juice time to wick into the atomizer before it will work again.

There are other things it could be too, so more information is needed.

 

[Rar]

Well, that is definitely long enough to let it dry, so it isn't a problem with it still being a bit wet.
It could be a lot of things though, so it would help if you told us exactly what you did before you tried it.

For instance, maybe you put a bunch a drops in to prime it, and now it's flooded.
If so, you can blow it out and start over.

Or maybe you didn't prime it at all, stuck a cartridge on it, and expected it to work immediately.
If so, you need to give the juice time to wick into the atomizer before it will work again.

There are other things it could be too, so more information is needed.

Thanks so much for answering. I didn't prime it at all. I stuck a cartridge on it and expected it to work. When it didn't, I went searching for solutions. I dripped some juice on the atomizer and even that didn't work. I only have two attys now and I'm in a panic mode, so I'm searching for a place to purchase about 5 of them. LOL

 

[drew999999]

I also have the riva 510 and think it's great. I have both carts and cartos and I definitely prefer the carto's. There are a couple of reviews on how to refill them easily (takes less than 30 seconds) and there's no mess. I've just been using the cartridges that were included to test new flavors. I'm just running the standard 3.0ohm Boge cartos that you can find for $8ish for a 5 pack.

 

[DC2]

How much juice did you drip on the atomizer?
Is it a regular 510 atomizer, an LR 510 atomizer, or a mega 510 atomizer?

As for the polyfill sticking to the atomizer bridge, one word of advice...
Never, ever twist the cartridge after you have put it on the atomizer, or it will likely get snagged.
Just put the cartridge straight on, and pull it straight off.

 

[Led_Zeppilin]

One of the main reasons Alcohol is bad for your atomizer is because even though it dries it does soak in to your wick, I had the same problem, please try blowing a different atty out, into a soft absorbent peace of tissue paper or paper towel, then, dry burn for about 2 seconds, add 4-5 drips to your atomizer, and repeat. When you are done, simply add 7 drops to the bottom of your cartridge, add blue foam, drip into it until it turns like a slushy. drip 4 drops into your atty, activate for a 2 count without drawing, and guess what! Your atty is clean tasting with a wonderful throat hit and vapor production. And, if you did use alcohol and it did work... It would taste like complete .... like all atomizers do when you soak in alcohol. Now, the drip tip method is a very good way to enhance flavor, throat hit, and vapor production. And also, people say that the drip tip method makes your atty die quicker... well... I've been dripping in the same 5 atty's for 2 years man! People will say that just to make you buy their product, it's not true! Thank you for reading dude, hope you enjoy the way I showed you, and there are cheap atty's for Riva Electronic Cigarette products, so buy one and try this, if you don't enjoy it, try it with 2 other Electronic Cigarettes. If you still don't like it, then hey, it's not your type of vaping style man, but thankyou for reading!

 

[DC2]

And also, people say that the drip tip method makes your atty die quicker... well... I've been dripping in the same 5 atty's for 2 years man! People will say that just to make you buy their product, it's not true!

I've never seen anyone around here say that, but you're right, it certainly is not true.

 

[Rar]

One of the main reasons Alcohol is bad for your atomizer is because even though it dries it does soak in to your wick, I had the same problem, please try blowing a different atty out, into a soft absorbent peace of tissue paper or paper towel, then, dry burn for about 2 seconds, add 4-5 drips to your atomizer, and repeat. When you are done, simply add 7 drops to the bottom of your cartridge, add blue foam, drip into it until it turns like a slushy. drip 4 drops into your atty, activate for a 2 count without drawing, and guess what! Your atty is clean tasting with a wonderful throat hit and vapor production. And, if you did use alcohol and it did work... It would taste like complete .... like all atomizers do when you soak in alcohol. Now, the drip tip method is a very good way to enhance flavor, throat hit, and vapor production. And also, people say that the drip tip method makes your atty die quicker... well... I've been dripping in the same 5 atty's for 2 years man! People will say that just to make you buy their product, it's not true! Thank you for reading dude, hope you enjoy the way I showed you, and there are cheap atty's for Riva Electronic Cigarette products, so buy one and try this, if you don't enjoy it, try it with 2 other Electronic Cigarettes. If you still don't like it, then hey, it's not your type of vaping style man, but thankyou for reading!

If I want a different flavor, how do I get the taste of the previous flavor out of the atty? Does the dry burn take care of that?

 

[DC2]

A dry burn is good for periodic maintenance, but it is overkill if you are just changing flavors.

How you go about changing flavors is a matter of preference...

--Some people do a soak in alcohol to remove the old flavor.
--Some people just rinse the atomizer with hot water, but you have to make sure to dry it real well.
--Some people vape some unflavored juice through the atomizer to remove the old flavor.

Personally, I just move straight from the old flavor to the new flavor without doing anything.
But then my flavors are all somewhat complimentary.

You will have a mix of the old and new flavors for a few drags or more, depending on the flavors involved.
Some stick around longer than others, like cinnamon, menthol, blueberry, and clove.
But usually within 5 or 6 drags the new flavor takes over.

Some people reserve different atomizers for different flavor families...
--One atomizer for menthols
--One atomizer for cinnamon
--One atomizer for fruit flavors
--One atomizer for tobacco flavors
--One atomizer for candy flavors


If you do elect to do any dry burns, make sure you do them right, so take a look at this thread...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/69834-my-atty-resurrection-method.html

One thing is to make sure you completely rinse out your atomizer before you do the dry burns.
Dry burning while there is still juice in the atomizer is a good way to bake some of that juice into the atomizer.

 

[Kent C]

Sorry about those links....I couldn't get the picture to post. Anyway, the directions from Strictly E-Juice, say to: 1) Remove original fluval from cartridge 2) fill cartridge 3/4 full of e-juice 3) place blue foam cartridge filler inside. As I said, this doesn't seem like it would work. Does anyone do it this way?

Yes... and it's as bander68 says - the air channels are separate from the cart well. I doesn't even leak when you use the straw mod where you have the straw sitting in the ejuice and open to above the blue foam. The density of the blue foam keeps it from leaking but the makeup of the blue foam still wicks well.