Atomizer / Cartomizer for life....

[Persis]

They work great, with a suckaton juice is provided, and I'll be satisfied til my SS mesh arrives.
Also they are quite fun to make, reminds me of tying flies.

Asdaq, How far is the needle of the suchaton inserted into the carto/atty, the suckaton needle reaches to the coil or only reaches to the half of the fitting or center post ?

With the suckaton conected, you use the atty with any filler material or only with the wick ?

Thx

 

[asdaq]

Roadrash, cheers, that would really simplify assembly a lot. Somehow I was trying to keep it as simple and small as possible, only to use a carto tube and have a lot of empty space for no reason.

Persis, the suckaton needle barely sticks out of its top connector, maybe 1mm and is V-cut on the end too. There is only the wick and coil, so it sprays the coil quite directly, except for that bulge for the positive needle. Still it is quite instant. One thing I need to watch is not leaving too much juice in the carto as it could leak as there is only the wick to trap it.

 

[roadrash]

I'm afraid to tell you Willy. Lets just say I made it BIO again by vigorous washing and baking. Something about lubricant or binders left over from production. Otherwise just fiberglass. Comes braided, there are 4 main strands that come undone when pulled on in pairs, not like usual braiding. It loves to be straight too.

Those needles aren't soo crooked as they appear in those pics either.

Can you please tell me and Willy how you wash and bake? Pretty please. :>)

 

[asdaq]

Just rinsed under hot tap water for about a minute, then placed damp for 20 minutes in a hot oven 250C. Comes out stiff but from the drying. This gives a initial dry burn with no odor or smoke (the coil smoked a bit), as opposed to just hot water rinsing after an alcohol soak, which gave off a nasty smell. Somehow the baking made the difference.

 

[roadrash]

BRB, off to fire up the oven.

 

[roadrash]

Ding, The rope is done. Baked off a lot off gunk. Did 20 minutes @ 500 deg F, could use another 20 minutes or so.
works well, no fumes on the dry burn. Taste like cookies. LOL
Thanks Asdaq.

 

[asdaq]

Smart of you to do the whole rope, I only did 2 wicks worth. Rinsing after would be a good idea too, but then you'd have to wait for it to dry again, and I was already getting hungry

 

[Persis]

l3oertjie, I have read in the another thread that you have tested the SS mesh.

But, do you have tested the SS mesh in your system, or in the Dan System (The simple small atty pill fob fed with the suckaton ???

 

[l3oertjie]

l3oertjie, I have read in the another thread that you have tested the SS mesh.

But, do you have tested the SS mesh in your system, or in the Dan System (The simple small atty pill fob fed with the suckaton ???

Persis, I like the way you think....

I have tested it yes, a short piece of mesh coiled around the wick where it is exposed to the heating coil. Preliminary results are quite positive. It wicks well, and produces a nice clean vaping flavour. The vapour production is consistent and pretty much the same as with the "standard" wick method. I need to test for a few days to see how it holds up. Will let you guys know.

It is damn difficult however to make the wick. Hopefully it will last a loooooooong time for all the trouble one has to go through when making it to make it worthwhile.

 

[Shaggy63]

I finally built a working atty using the methods in the post. The coil instantly produces tons of vapor at 5V however it is very harsh. The coil is about 2.3 ohms and is wrapped around the wick only two or three times very closely. I'm using silica wick straight from the rope. Any suggestions?

 

[Persis]

Persis, I like the way you think....

I have tested it yes, a short piece of mesh coiled around the wick where it is exposed to the heating coil. Preliminary results are quite positive. It wicks well, and produces a nice clean vaping flavour. The vapour production is consistent and pretty much the same as with the "standard" wick method. I need to test for a few days to see how it holds up. Will let you guys know.

It is damn difficult however to make the wick. Hopefully it will last a loooooooong time for all the trouble one has to go through when making it to make it worthwhile.

yeah... We will get something with this.... Boerjie, don't forget to make a test without the silica rope, only mesh and wire, I think the atty with mesh and wire, and a suckaton would work well.

 

[l3oertjie]

I finally built a working atty using the methods in the post. The coil instantly produces tons of vapor at 5V however it is very harsh. The coil is about 2.3 ohms and is wrapped around the wick only two or three times very closely. I'm using silica wick straight from the rope. Any suggestions?

5V and 2.3ohm equates to approximately 10.9Watts. That's a lot of power! I would start by increasing the coil length to at least double the current length. Try with a 5ohm coil. Fold and twist the nichrome if you want to.

 

[Shaggy63]

I currently use a 2.5 ohm atty I purchased which is perfect, I've used 1.5 ohm attys at 5v and it was still smooth. Why is there such a difference?

Thanks for your input.

 

[l3oertjie]

I currently use a 2.5 ohm atty I purchased which is perfect, I've used 1.5 ohm attys at 5v and it was still smooth. Why is there such a difference?

Thanks for your input.

It could be that the heating coil is now much closer to your mouth? Not sure.... Your battery life should definately increase!

 

[asdaq]

yeah... We will get something with this.... Boerjie, don't forget to make a test without the silica rope, only mesh and wire, I think the atty with mesh and wire, and a suckaton would work well.

If you are using the mesh and wire you wouldn't need the needle in the suckaton, just a longer vertical mesh wick, but then you need to add a positive wire connection. Then, why would you still want to have the atty and suckaton as separate parts, especially when the wick runs through both? That could make 2 connectors obsolete too.

 

[Shaggy63]

I'll try a 3 and a 4 ohm tonight. I just need to find the perfect amount of smooth vapor. I'm not happy unless I have a cloud a vapor above my head raining nicotine.

 

[Persis]

If you are using the mesh and wire you wouldn't need the needle in the suckaton, just a longer vertical mesh wick, but then you need to add a positive wire connection. Then, why would you still want to have the atty and suckaton as separate parts, especially when the wick runs through both? That could make 2 connectors obsolete too.

Good points... you are right Asdaq, but my intention is to know how the mesh works without the capilary effect/system. I prefer to maintain the raidy system and the Boertjie system separately, I think they are different things, and I am testing... Bah.. we are always testing, jejeje.

 

[asdaq]

I just may try some testing myself. I just got my mesh today, and i haven't got much else in the way of materials to play with this weekend. Hopefully there will be some time too.

 

[WillyB]

I currently use a 2.5 ohm atty I purchased which is perfect, I've used 1.5 ohm attys at 5v and it was still smooth. Why is there such a difference?

Thanks for your input.

What kind of 5V device are you using? What's powering it? You'd need a lot of current at 1.5Ω, about 3.3A to actually get 5V.

 

[Persis]

I just may try some testing myself. I just got my mesh today, and i haven't got much else in the way of materials to play with this weekend. Hopefully there will be some time too.

OK, prepare your fingers to make beautiful and very little rolls of mesh .... and I will be waiting for your news... My mesh is on the way...