Atomizers - what to choose

[wv2win]

Adapters can be the cause to shorting out an atty so they are not the always passive device you seem to make them out to be....ask Isaac.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ikenvape/121901-510-atty-5v-box-mod.html#post1888429

I had a 801 to 510 adapter for a year on my original REO with never an issue. That being said it was an adapter that was sold by many suppliers.

Oh my goodness - I'm learning all kinds of stuff. I'll not try an adapter any time soon to be on the safe side. Maybe I'll get a 306 along with a Cisco 510. Thanks for info about dewicking & the ohms. I didn't know that.

As we can all see, here is the result of one post stating that adapters will short out your PV and ruin it. I know of 40+ plus vapers who use adapters with no problems and there are probably thousands+ that use them with no problems. The end result is that you are telling people the only atty/carto that you can use is the 510 since they make up the majority of the connectors. I would bet that the person who started this has never vaped on anything but a 510 and incorrectly thinks it is the best atomizer on the market.

I guess all other atomizers should be discontinued.

 

[zaxytha]

Actually, I started with an 808 and cartomizers, not the 510. Up until 2 days ago, I never tried a mod. Prior to that, I was pretty sure I never would want a mod, but now I have a reo mini with a 510 connection. Since I've never tried an atomizer before, I asked for opinions and others experiences. There is no right/wrong. I'm new at this and have decided not to try a adapter "now". I don't want to jump my learning curve. Put the cart before the horse - so to speak.

 

[mlinky]

As we can all see, here is the result of one post stating that adapters will short out your PV and ruin it. I know of 40+ plus vapers who use adapters with no problems and there are probably thousands+ that use them with no problems. The end result is that you are telling people the only atty/carto that you can use is the 510 since they make up the majority of the connectors. I would bet that the person who started this has never vaped on anything but a 510 and incorrectly thinks it is the best atomizer on the market.

I guess all other atomizers should be discontinued.

Actually, any misunderstanding is SOLELY the result of YOU encouraging someone who is new to mods and new to atomizers to add another variable (adapters) to their first attempt with atomizers.

Since I "started this", I will be happy to tell you that I have been vaping a REO Mini for over 6 months, I have used other attys (including ones that require adapters), but my current favorite is a 1.5 ohm Cisco 306. Please feel free to describe your greater experience using 3.7v juice feeders.

I said that "improper use" of an adapter can cause a short. You took that and ran with it. There is nothing about anything that I said that would lead a reasonable person to leap to the conclusion that I think all other atomizers should be discontinued. YMMV

 

[tybin]

my two cents was merely to point out that one needs to use a quality adapter. Talk to the vendors of the mod you are wanting to buy. they will confirm that they have mods returned rather frequently i would think from folks using cheapo adapters and cramming them down. I'd quote one but i'm sure it would not be allowed . How about we just agree to disagree

 

[wv2win]

Actually, any misunderstanding is SOLELY the result of YOU encouraging someone who is new to mods and new to atomizers to add another variable (adapters) to their first attempt with atomizers.

Since I "started this", I will be happy to tell you that I have been vaping a REO Mini for over 6 months, I have used other attys (including ones that require adapters), but my current favorite is a 1.5 ohm Cisco 306. Please feel free to describe your greater experience using 3.7v juice feeders.

I said that "improper use" of an adapter can cause a short. You took that and ran with it. There is nothing about anything that I said that would lead a reasonable person to leap to the conclusion that I think all other atomizers should be discontinued. YMMV

It was YOUR comments that left the new person stating they would not use adapters, the "end result" of your comments accomplished the same thing. And how do you "improperly use" an adapter?

One of the best juice feed PV's on the market (GLV3), I have been told, comes with adapters for different atomizer usage.

Maybe the better statement, instead of scaring someone away from using any adapters, would be to explain in detail what adapter to use and which one not to use, instead of scaring people away from using any adapters.

 

[Fayjai1970]

I am being honest when i say i only buy 510 atomizers, But 510;s are the only ones i have tried. The 510 seemed to be the standard size and how much money was i going to spend buying different sizes of atomizers and adapters.

 

[mlinky]

It was YOUR comments that left the new person stating they would not use adapters, the "end result" of your comments accomplished the same thing. And how do you "improperly use" an adapter?

One of the best juice feed PV's on the market (GLV3), I have been told, comes with adapters for different atomizer usage.

Maybe the better statement, instead of scaring someone away from using any adapters, would be to explain in detail what adapter to use and which one not to use, instead of scaring people away from using any adapters.

The OP likes Boge 2 ohm cartos and is new to mods, juice feeders and attys. She wants ONE atty to test juice. Why on earth would anyone recommend attys that require adapters in response to that post? I saw no need to explain how and why to use adapters.

Improper use? Many adapters are adjustable; Some are just not built correctly. You need to know what looks right. The center post of the atty and the adapter must line up with the center of the connector (the adapter also must be capable of being juice fed). Additionally, the center post of the adapter must not extend too far from the face of the adapter. You can screw up an expensive mod with one cheap part.

Most mod makers are happy to check and fit an adapter for the mod they are selling. Rob (REO) has always offered this service to his customers.

 

[hubseven]

I would start with a 2.0 ohm 510 from Avid Vaper, kind of middle of the road and easy atty to start with. Check out TH and vapor, if you need more TH try 1.5 ohm 510 and make choice. After that do same with 306, what I use but it took a while to use properly the 306 is a little more finicky than the 510 but can be mastered with time and patience and improved squonking skills. My sweet spot is the 2.0 ohm 306, the 1.5 had too much TH for me, but everybody is different. Good Luck.

 

[unsure]

It was YOUR comments that left the new person stating they would not use adapters, the "end result" of your comments accomplished the same thing. And how do you "improperly use" an adapter?

One of the best juice feed PV's on the market (GLV3), I have been told, comes with adapters for different atomizer usage.

Maybe the better statement, instead of scaring someone away from using any adapters, would be to explain in detail what adapter to use and which one not to use, instead of scaring people away from using any adapters.

Its not about adapters are good or adapters are bad. Its whats possible if one is used that shouldn't be used. That possibility should be made available. I speak on Mods Im qualified and have experienced with. For example the original Woody REO had a 801 native connector and when purchased you received a 510 & 901 adapter. The point here....the manufactor new what was safe and what would work so you can choose your favorite atty. That being said I wouldn't willy-nilly buy any ol' adapter for any ol' mod I wasn't sure would be safe. Its not about scarying someone its about educating someone.

 

[wv2win]

Its not about adapters are good or adapters are bad. Its whats possible if one is used that shouldn't be used. That possibility should be made available. I speak on Mods Im qualified and have experienced with. For example the original Woody REO had a 801 native connector and when purchased you received a 510 & 901 adapter. The point here....the manufactor new what was safe and what would work so you can choose your favorite atty. That being said I wouldn't willy-nilly buy any ol' adapter for any ol' mod I wasn't sure would be safe. Its not about scarying someone its about educating someone.

And that information on what are better adapters to use, was not provided. Just a blanket statement about adapters damaging PV's. I too agree that it is about education, not "blanket statements" that can (obviously) scare someone off of ever using a different atomizer with an adapter.

 

[mlinky]

And that information on what are better adapters to use, was not provided. Just a blanket statement about adapters damaging PV's. I too agree that it is about education, not "blanket statements" that can (obviously) scare someone off of ever using a different atomizer with an adapter.

You don't seem to have any issues with making blanket statements about me or the mod. In fact, you have mischaracterized my post and created your own scary blanket statements and then attributed them to me. YOU (not I) said "adapters will short out your PV and ruin it" and "all other atomizers should be discontinued"

Let me repeat what I said, "improper use of an adapter can short your REO out."

Seems to me that any sensible person would read that and (assuming they might want to use an atty that requires one) think, "hmmmm...maybe I should find out how to properly use an adapter". Or "maybe I should call REO before I slap an adapter on my mod". Or "maybe I'll ask in the REO forum and someone like unsure will give me the benefit of his experience".

That is a correct result. It appears that I'm a pretty good educator

 

[Parmacrafter]

I have NEVER heard of a "good" PV being shorted out by an adapter. It is nothing more than an extension with a different threading. The 801 atty/carto has some definite advantages over the 510.

I have actually had a bad adapter cause a short myself. Some adapters are made very cheap and the center pin is not always perfectly straight. If it is just a tad crooked at can cause a short by allowing the positive center pin to make contact with the outer negative edge.

 

[wv2win]

You don't seem to have any issues with making blanket statements about me or the mod. In fact, you have mischaracterized my post and created your own scary blanket statements and then attributed them to me. YOU (not I) said "adapters will short out your PV and ruin it" and "all other atomizers should be discontinued"

Let me repeat what I said, "improper use of an adapter can short your REO out."

Seems to me that any sensible person would read that and (assuming they might want to use an atty that requires one) think, "hmmmm...maybe I should find out how to properly use an adapter". Or "maybe I should call REO before I slap an adapter on my mod". Or "maybe I'll ask in the REO forum and someone like unsure will give me the benefit of his experience".

That is a correct result. It appears that I'm a pretty good educator

Telling a new person that "improper use of an adapter can short out their PV" and not explaining what "improper" means is pretty poor on the "education" point. That just scares them and leaves them with nothing but one atty option. There is no education in that statement.

 

[mlinky]

Telling a new person that "improper use of an adapter can short out their PV" and not explaining what "improper" means is pretty poor on the "education" point. That just scares them and leaves them with nothing but one atty option. There is no education in that statement.

My prior response could be repeated in it's entirety here and fully address your comment. *shrug*