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The more the merrier.
I'm not sure yet what our potential will be for getting something done but we'll have a better chance if we're organised.
If anyone is interested in some reading while we wait for membership approvals then have a look here - People in Research
NHS Institute for Innovation and Improvement - A practical guide to using technology to engage people in health service improvement By the look of this site we might be able to use a forum as an organising group.
I'm not sure yet what our potential will be for getting something done but we'll have a better chance if we're organised.
If anyone is interested in some reading while we wait for membership approvals then have a look here - People in Research
NHS Institute for Innovation and Improvement - A practical guide to using technology to engage people in health service improvement By the look of this site we might be able to use a forum as an organising group.
same here. intereted in taking part in research and UK group membership pending
Hi, I know I'm new but I'd be really interested too. I would like the electronic cigarette to become more common and more available.
To be honest even after 29 years as a smoker. A few days after getting my new e-ciggie I know that I won't smoke a "real" cigarette unless I run out of batteries, cartridges or atomisers.
I'm still surprised at just how great this way of smoking is! It all sounded too good to be true and then it seems that it is all true. All the good bits of smoking but none of the bad. It's even a fraction of the cost.
My only worry is that once it becomes more well known and more people convert that the government will want it's share. I think that they will add a fortune in taxes to the cost of cartridges and e-liquid. If you think about how much tax we paid on analogue ciggies compared to how much they cost to produce, you'll get an idea of how much they might try to make in tax. I think it's something like 400% in taxes on a packet of tobacco ciggies.
Do you think that it won't be too long before one of the big tobacco companies jumps on the bandwagon? Maybe they're waiting for someone else to put their necks out and pay for research? But to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if we found out that they knew about the pros and cons or e-smoking years ago. I would think that one or more of them probably paid for research when the first e-fags started to sell in China.
But consider me on board as a guinea pig.
To be honest even after 29 years as a smoker. A few days after getting my new e-ciggie I know that I won't smoke a "real" cigarette unless I run out of batteries, cartridges or atomisers.
I'm still surprised at just how great this way of smoking is! It all sounded too good to be true and then it seems that it is all true. All the good bits of smoking but none of the bad. It's even a fraction of the cost.
My only worry is that once it becomes more well known and more people convert that the government will want it's share. I think that they will add a fortune in taxes to the cost of cartridges and e-liquid. If you think about how much tax we paid on analogue ciggies compared to how much they cost to produce, you'll get an idea of how much they might try to make in tax. I think it's something like 400% in taxes on a packet of tobacco ciggies.
Do you think that it won't be too long before one of the big tobacco companies jumps on the bandwagon? Maybe they're waiting for someone else to put their necks out and pay for research? But to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if we found out that they knew about the pros and cons or e-smoking years ago. I would think that one or more of them probably paid for research when the first e-fags started to sell in China.
But consider me on board as a guinea pig.
Welcome to the forum Marvel.
You need to go to your control panel and apply for membership of the UK social group.
Hopefully esmoking is safer and healthier than cigs but unfortunately we have no proof of that. One of the things we might be able to do is become part of clinical trials to get some evidence and help encourage others to get off cigs if it's safer.
My greatest worry is not taxes, I don't think they'll be as bad as cig taxes, I worry more about purity of eliquid and safety regarding formulation. We don't know if we're being sold tainted juice at the moment because there is no regulation or checks. The only juice that we know has been double checked for toxic ingredients is Wicked.
Tobacco companies might not get onboard but the pharmaceutical companies will likely be interested if they can make esmoking a nicotine replacement therapy. I don't think that would be a bad thing, it would make it a lot safer.
You need to go to your control panel and apply for membership of the UK social group.
Hopefully esmoking is safer and healthier than cigs but unfortunately we have no proof of that. One of the things we might be able to do is become part of clinical trials to get some evidence and help encourage others to get off cigs if it's safer.
My greatest worry is not taxes, I don't think they'll be as bad as cig taxes, I worry more about purity of eliquid and safety regarding formulation. We don't know if we're being sold tainted juice at the moment because there is no regulation or checks. The only juice that we know has been double checked for toxic ingredients is Wicked.
Tobacco companies might not get onboard but the pharmaceutical companies will likely be interested if they can make esmoking a nicotine replacement therapy. I don't think that would be a bad thing, it would make it a lot safer.
Yepp, that link gets me to the page but there is no mention there of the UK forum.
I can only see the UK forum if I go through my user cp - tried to join it today but no luck so far.........
and Yes, I may be interested in the testing - spoke to the local health care trust "no smoking" organiser yesterday & suggested it but the reception was a bit luke warm........
I'll have more to say about that when I can get into the UK forum..
Cheers
Barry
I can only see the UK forum if I go through my user cp - tried to join it today but no luck so far.........
and Yes, I may be interested in the testing - spoke to the local health care trust "no smoking" organiser yesterday & suggested it but the reception was a bit luke warm........
I'll have more to say about that when I can get into the UK forum..
Cheers
Barry
Why does the UK forum not show on the social groups page? It's a pain to find it.
Anyway, I'm not a member yet
Anyway, I'm not a member yet
me too. still waiting approval. must be a lot of paper-work. MrFog have you had your preliminary interview yet?
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oh shizzle, fixed that. you haven't been appointed a time for an interview yet?? Did you fill in and return the questionnaire and attach the copy of your driving license or passport?
OK I'm lost. All I did was click the join button and it has always said pending ever since.
What is supposed to happen ?
What is supposed to happen ?
Ha ha talk about gullible. I wondered what the hell you were talking about.
Well lets keep hanging on then.
Well lets keep hanging on then.
I have sent off my urine sample but membership still pending. I got an Amex card and a mortgage quicker. (Oh yes of course that is why we are in such a mess)
Lol, I hope you're ready for biometric ID. DNA, retina scans and fingerprints are all required.
Seriously, the only post on there of relevance is the one I copied to this thread. Nothing is going to move fast and nobody is missing anything.
Can any of the mods say who approves membership to the social groups and when that might happen? Ta.
Seriously, the only post on there of relevance is the one I copied to this thread. Nothing is going to move fast and nobody is missing anything.
Can any of the mods say who approves membership to the social groups and when that might happen? Ta.
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