Atty vs Carto Prices?
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Good question. I wanna know why too. When I decided to try dripping to test flavors I was shocked at the price of attys.
Well, they say that they use better materials in atties because they are supposed to last, while the cartos are throw away so no need to use the better materials.
I use 306 not 510 and I pay $9 apiece for my cisco 306 atties, while I can get the boge 306 cartos for $1.60 each.
Now, the standard I used when I was using the boges, was 6 ML per carto. In other words, when I started up a new carto I put the juice in a 6 ML bottle and when that ran out, it was time to throw out the carto. I should say here that, on the cartos, my main vape (Puresmoker Silver Leaf Menthol) had no problem with that but some of the thicker juices (cafe mocha, etc).... well.. at times I had to jam a paper clip up through the boge to get it unclogged and when the carto was getting near the end on these... did not taste all that good.
In any case, what this amounts to, is if I get 30-36 ml on an attie, that is the break even point. Less than that and I am spending more money on atties. If I get more than that, then spending less money on atties.
For my main vape... no problem. Can go a month or more on just one attie (dripping) and that might mean 200 ml or more.
But, on the thicker juices... sheesh... 6 ML is the standard before the attie needs to be dry burned and some only make it through 3 ML.
So, before I learned how to dry burn and remove the scabs that develop on the attie coils, it was cost prohibitive to vape these thicker juices on atties.
But, then I DID learn how to dry burn (watched some youtube videos) and, the dry burning gets rid of the scabs (tried just about EVERYTHING before that and no dice), and if the atties can make it through 5-6 dry burns, then that is the break even point for them.
So far, so good. Haven't burned out any of my bridgeless cisco atties yet but I don't believe any of them have gone through 5-6 dry burns yet.
In any case, with boges they tended to not taste as good once you got past 3 ml or so, and then there was the cardboardy taste underlying. So, now I just drip, except I still use boges on my Joye 306 which I use when I am up and about.
Hope this helps.
I use 306 not 510 and I pay $9 apiece for my cisco 306 atties, while I can get the boge 306 cartos for $1.60 each.
Now, the standard I used when I was using the boges, was 6 ML per carto. In other words, when I started up a new carto I put the juice in a 6 ML bottle and when that ran out, it was time to throw out the carto. I should say here that, on the cartos, my main vape (Puresmoker Silver Leaf Menthol) had no problem with that but some of the thicker juices (cafe mocha, etc).... well.. at times I had to jam a paper clip up through the boge to get it unclogged and when the carto was getting near the end on these... did not taste all that good.
In any case, what this amounts to, is if I get 30-36 ml on an attie, that is the break even point. Less than that and I am spending more money on atties. If I get more than that, then spending less money on atties.
For my main vape... no problem. Can go a month or more on just one attie (dripping) and that might mean 200 ml or more.
But, on the thicker juices... sheesh... 6 ML is the standard before the attie needs to be dry burned and some only make it through 3 ML.
So, before I learned how to dry burn and remove the scabs that develop on the attie coils, it was cost prohibitive to vape these thicker juices on atties.
But, then I DID learn how to dry burn (watched some youtube videos) and, the dry burning gets rid of the scabs (tried just about EVERYTHING before that and no dice), and if the atties can make it through 5-6 dry burns, then that is the break even point for them.
So far, so good. Haven't burned out any of my bridgeless cisco atties yet but I don't believe any of them have gone through 5-6 dry burns yet.
In any case, with boges they tended to not taste as good once you got past 3 ml or so, and then there was the cardboardy taste underlying. So, now I just drip, except I still use boges on my Joye 306 which I use when I am up and about.
Hope this helps.
Because a good atty can last you many months, if properly cared for.
I have atties I've been using since i started vaping, which is now 6 months.
A carto with filler is going to last 1 day to a week at most. They are disposable.
What they said. There are people on here who claim to have working atties that are over a year old. I don't care how well you clean a carto, after about a month it's going to start tasting like ....
I use clear juices only ( some with slight coloring) and use Boge LR 2.0 cartos. I've never had one burn out and don't clean them per se but do run plain pg through them to "clean" or get rid of a previous juice flavor and store. I have cartos I've been using for 3 months or more so far at 2 mils a day not including the PG run through. I've taken some apart to use as attys in a tasting pinch and have never seen filler material deteriorate in any way which, other than an atty burning up or the air shaft loosening, is the only reason I can see to retire one. So far, I've had no attys burn up and have had three shafts loosen. That's out of 75 of them. I have so many because as a noob I read about them only lasting a week and that they had to either be water/alcohol cleaned or tossed. I still don't get that but now probably have a life-time supply.
Ooops... I take that back... I did have two burn out and got very bad draw problems in several boxes I got from a vendor I had never purchased from. That's how I know how they act when they're just bad cartos.
Ooops... I take that back... I did have two burn out and got very bad draw problems in several boxes I got from a vendor I had never purchased from. That's how I know how they act when they're just bad cartos.
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