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joeblowma

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Maybe I'm just of the mistaken impression that anything that is press fit should have been press fit by a hydraulic machine and have no chance of coming off/loose without destroying the fixture or using a similar machine to remove it... if it was designed right and the connection points are of appropriate tolerances.

My Crius II not having a sealed 510 right out of the box leads me to believe it's an design/tolerance/manufacture/OBS issue. Wismec Predator got burned at the stake for having a press fit 510 that wasn't designed for the stresses of things like pulling off rda caps, but mine is still happily chugging along due to the fact I was able to easily take it apart and repair the deficiency. I wouldn't recommend the unfixed Predator to anyone, but I certainly wouldn't blame someone for user error if they went to pick up their device by the tank and mod fell off - press fit when a mechanical connection should have been used was just a poor design decision.

Neither here nor there, I'm just pinning some (reluctant) hope that Augvape somehow did... better, but that screw-less 510 was nearly a no-sale for me.
 

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Yep, that hadn't dawned on me. I always space my coils if they aren't quite long enough, don't even think about it anymore it's so routine now.
Same for most single coils. I also space in most, specially on the Mage when building single coil. Flavor gets MUCH better if you have the space.
 

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Maybe I'm just of the mistaken impression that anything that is press fit should have been press fit by a hydraulic machine and have no chance of coming off/loose without destroying the fixture or using a similar machine to remove it... if it was designed right and the connection points are of appropriate tolerances.

My Crius II not having a sealed 510 right out of the box leads me to believe it's an design/tolerance/manufacture/OBS issue. Wismec Predator got burned at the stake for having a press fit 510 that wasn't designed for the stresses of things like pulling off RDA caps, but mine is still happily chugging along due to the fact I was able to easily take it apart and repair the deficiency. I wouldn't recommend the unfixed Predator to anyone, but I certainly wouldn't blame someone for user error if they went to pick up their device by the tank and mod fell off - press fit when a mechanical connection should have been used was just a poor design decision.

Neither here nor there, I'm just pinning some (reluctant) hope that Augvape somehow did... better, but that screw-less 510 was nearly a no-sale for me.

I don't use RDAs so that's why my Predator happily functioning. Not everybody gives something the designed use...
 

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My brain wants me to take the tails to the bottom. My experience says that keeping the tails as short as possible to tuck into, and fill the openings is how I get the best results.
Todd builds it cutting the sides 45 degrees so just a little tail pops through the holes. You just need a little to start the wicking action



I do that quite often in the Crius and anything that has closed wick holes. If the wick holes are open as in the Zeus, I leave the full wick.
 

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Cirus 2 leaked any residue that gets under the deck from day 1 directly into the mods 510. Throwing it in a vice and finishing the press fit, adding some CA glue seems to be holding up but I don't trust it at all any more. Run into too many people with Engines (and even an Engine II more recently) that the positive pin/post just up and let go on to trust those either. So yeah my crius 2, engine and nano no longer have a good home unless you count sitting on the shelf gathering dust "a good home."

They put a bunch of metal under the deck they really didn't have to reducing the space under the air holes, then made the afc so it has a seam facing straight down - so even a tiny bit of residue after a few days wicks between the deck and mod and makes the afc itself a mess at the seams (since afc has no orings). I find myself rewicking it every 3rd day because I'm OCD about that sort of mess, just so I can rinse the base under the tap and get the juice out of the afc. So, I've had plenty of opportunity to try all sorts of wicking (bacon v2, bacon prime, muji, rayon), I've settled on a 3.5mm coil packed with rayon, rabbit eared and top 1/4 cut off rest stuffed/cut to the step on the juice slot. So far though (since I got it in November or so) it's been my favorite RTA, aside from that.

Either way my favorite tip for flavor on ammit 25 was the merlin 510 one which lines up almost precisely with the chimney bore... I'm hoping they were comparing ammit dual and not ammit 25 earlier in the thread for airflow.
I have the Ammit 25 & mine does eventually seep but not from the afc. It seeps on the top of my mod, thinking about it now perhaps it is from the afc ring & it seeps out on the bottom on top of my mod. I use rayon & have tried all the tricks I’ve seen. Vaping with Vick suggested the toothpick trick behind the wick to create a space behind your wick & I guess push the wick forward in the wick channel. I stopped purchasing press fit decks for a long time after the Merlin Rta seeping issue. The toothpick trick works for a few days but eventually it will seep again.
 

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Are you sure you aren't thinking of Ammit Dual? Ammit 25 has a hair over 5mm chimney, basically the same size as my wider 510 drip tip bores... even the 810 cap with that little hole in it looks a little ridiculous.

Sorry, yes it is the Ammit Dual! Ignore EVERYTHING I said about the Ammit 25! :rolleyes:
 

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Same for most single coils. I also space in most, specially on the Mage when building single coil. Flavor gets MUCH better if you have the space.
Marginally better with single wire and little to no difference in multi wire imo.
 

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I don't use RDAs so that's why my Predator happily functioning. Not everybody gives something the designed use...
Ahaha, you missed the part where I said "picks it up by the tank" then I take it? They did fix it by making it press fit from the inside instead of from the top, though mine is not one of those and did require a little solder to firm up the 510 ground.
Sorry, yes it is the Ammit Dual! Ignore EVERYTHING I said about the Ammit 25! :rolleyes:
Thank you! Don't mind me, just being a little impatient waiting on that vape mail and killing some down time reading all I can about the thing that is not here, yet...
 

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Shocked me to see this out for delivery today, was expecting next week at the earliest... last I tracked it customs was sitting on it and it just magically appeared today in my city and out for delivery.

@DP2Raja you were right, airflow fully open seems to be around 50% open on ammit 25. Chimney on it is just a hair over 5mm just like ammit 25 too. So far I love it, smooth draw and just about where I like it at half open. Though, I think it's gonna be some tinkering to get the flavor to really shine - the 3mm 3x28+38 6 wrap 316L clapton is doing decent but I think my wicking needs work, not dry just not much flavor. Interesting effect I've noted but "intake" is dead on, it even pre-heats the air before it gets to the coil.

Just to snub OBS, the Engine drip tip looks better on it than the engine (IMHO):
 

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Shocked me to see this out for delivery today, was expecting next week at the earliest... last I tracked it customs was sitting on it and it just magically appeared today in my city and out for delivery.

@DP2Raja you were right, airflow fully open seems to be around 50% open on ammit 25. Chimney on it is just a hair over 5mm just like ammit 25 too. So far I love it, smooth draw and just about where I like it at half open. Though, I think it's gonna be some tinkering to get the flavor to really shine - the 3mm 3x28+38 6 wrap 316L clapton is doing decent but I think my wicking needs work, not dry just not much flavor. Interesting effect I've noted but "intake" is dead on, it even pre-heats the air before it gets to the coil.

Just to snub OBS, the Engine drip tip looks better on it than the engine (IMHO):

I agree. I use an almost identical drip tip on mine that came off of an Eleaf Ello tank.
 

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@DP2Raja you were right, airflow fully open seems to be around 50% open on ammit 25. Chimney on it is just a hair over 5mm just like ammit 25 too. So far I love it, smooth draw and just about where I like it at half open. Though, I think it's gonna be some tinkering to get the flavor to really shine - the 3mm 3x28+38 6 wrap 316L clapton is doing decent but I think my wicking needs work, not dry just not much flavor. Interesting effect I've noted but "intake" is dead on, it even pre-heats the air before it gets to the coil.

I went from a 3mm coil to a 2.5. This allowed for a little less cotton in the wick holes. Improved wicking and a more saturated and flavorful vape over the 3mm coil. I just rewicked last evening and cut the tails to just barely go into the wick holes BUT loosely fills them from left/right and top/bottom of deck opening. If I look straight on from the side I can see no wick hanging. Flavor is great, wicks perfectly. Excellent vape experience.
 

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I went from a 3mm coil to a 2.5.
Figured I'd give it a go, washed the tank in an ultrasonic (just in case) and tossed in a 24G 316L 2.5mm with around 8 wraps... got the exact same flavor as I had from the triple core clapton. Like an Engine Nano with the coil severely out of place (airy/watery/weak). I even tried flooding it by closing the air and pulling until lots of bubbles had passed into the tank... it spit a lot and gurgled a little but changed nothing. The coil gunked much much faster than it should have, too.

So, I did a series of (amateur) experiments... started with thinking "where could air be coming from and bypass the coil". So I got out my o-rings, wasted a bunch of time finding out I don't have ones small enough to fit between the pipes and the chamber walls... and settled on trying plumbers tape and making this mess (edit: yes, that rayon is much thinner than it looks here)

Well clearly those pipes aren't sealed that well as some tape didn't get pushed down by them, and perhaps even the edges of that plate as it has some side to side travel and apparently nothing is physically holding it up to the seam behind it. I vaped it and got denser clouds than without it, but not much of a difference in flavor. I carried on and plugged the pipes to see just how bad it really is and it's nowhere near enough leakage to ruin the vape. Good to know!

I had tried leads straight out from the post at first, then lowered as close to the air at the bottom as is sane and that didn't make much of a difference. Since I did the tape stuff and took pics so I can easily ballpark where the top ends up, I figured try high. Just now pulled the 2.5mm 26G coil up as high as I could (so about 1/4 or so of it is above the screws, maybe 1mm clearance to the top of the chamber) and rewicked it yet again with rayon. Wasn't expecting much, but I'm getting a lot more flavor, it's a much warmer/wetter vape too. Next up, going to try a clapton built for the chimney and placed high. Tomorrow is another day, my thanks to those who took the time to read this wall o' vent.
 
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