Authentic Ragnarok button getting slightly warm

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Mikedin

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I am running it with a plume veil clone at .48ohms after a few good vapes the firing button starts to get a bit warm , not at all "hot" just warms to the touch of I use a different finger and feel it

Is this normal for this to happen and if not what would be the culprit that's causing it

Thanks for any feedback it is much appreciated!
 

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Also adding to what I've said I've also noticed that the plume veils contact seem so be deep inside of the 510 connection could this have somthing to do with the problem? When I'm using my orchid v3 clone or my Aqua v2 clone that their contacts are outside of the 510 and these do not warm up the button ,If this could be the problem is there any fix to lowering a contact pin inside of a atty?
 

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I don't have any experience with Ragnaroks, but hopefully my semi-answer will get someone else to chime in as well.

In general, I consider a hot button concerning. If my button gets warm, I generally check to make sure the battery isn't warming as well. While I expect some level of warming on a mod, it should really only be from heat transfer from your atty. If the battery isn't warming and can definitely handle the load you are putting on it, then I would proceed with caution. If the mod gets hot, or the battery starts to warm, then I would stop using it. I err on the side of safety far more than many, but basically, I consider some mod warmth normal, but battery warmth or the mod getting hot indicate something is amiss with the mod.
 

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Yeah I aim for safety too (thus why I made the post) so thank you for responding

The battery does not even get slightly warm even when the button is warm and the main body of the mod is warm (that only happens when I am chain Vaping) it really is just the button that warms quickly , it is a very heavy mod not thin walled at all (compared to my GP paps clone ) and is all copper contacts it is also an authentic I am building in the region of .4 ohms I just yesterday got a doge4 clone and actually built to .35 and it does not warm the button at all so I have somewhat narrowed it down to the Plume veil and I can only attribute it to the short 510 connector pin

I am going to take one out of my other Atties and see if it will fit the plume veil tonite I don't know if they make them different lengths or if that will make a difference

Any opinions are appreciated thank you for your response kardia
 

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I'm going to chime in as well.

We seem to have narrowed this down to the Plume Veil. It is an Infinite clone that I owned before giving it to Mike. I never had an issue with it, but was using it on a Slug, which has a fixed 510 connection.

I did dismantle and clean the Plume Veil before sending it to Mike, but I'm pretty experienced so I think its not likely I messed it up on reassembly, but its possible. He found that the insulator, and center pin got pushed up, which seemed to be causing the warm button situation on the mod.

Does anyone think the telescopic 510 pin on the Ragnarok could push those up on the atty? Has this happened to anyone else? I'm wondering if the Plume Veil is defective and potentially dangerous?
 

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Thanks for chiming in roxy! And I've been using this plume veil since I have fixed it

I fully dismantled it and reseated the insulator then boiled and fully cleaned each part and screw seperate including removing the 510 +center post and cleaning them separate after re assembling the insulator will now not move and is sitting fully flush with the deck now and is very well in place the button does not even get remotely warm unless I chan vape through about 3 full wells of juice in a VERY short amount of time (I'd assume that would be expected )

But as roxy said I'd appreciate any additional input on it wether it be the insulator just got pushed up after time or it just was time for a disassembly/cleaning and reseating of the insulator
 

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As a fellow Ragnarok owner, the pin in the mod is thin enough that it could potentially push up the atty's 510. However, you'd have to wrench it down pretty hard, which I assume you don't do. With the atty's connection pushed up, it's also possible the mod's pin was contacting the outside of the atty's 510. All things considered, I'd say you've successfully diagnosed and resolved the problem.

I think the Ragnarok is a great mod that has totally flown under everyone's radar. The only other thing I would suggest is giving the button assembly a good cleaning if you haven't already.
 
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As a fellow Ragnarok owner, the pin in the mod is thin enough that it could potentially push up the atty's 510. However, you'd have to wrench it down pretty hard, which I assume you don't do. With the atty's connection pushed up, it's also possible the mod's pin was contacting the outside of the atty's 510. All things considered, I'd say you've successfully diagnosed and resolved the problem.

I think the Ragnarok is a great mod that has totally flown under everyone's radar. The only other thing I would suggest is giving the button assembly a good cleaning if you haven't already.

That is exactly what happened as far as why the button was heating up.

I'm a little worried it could happen again though and create a hard short :(

I guess all you can do, Mike, is keep your eye on it and if you see the PV's 510 pin becoming recessed, either fix it or stop using it.
 

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As a fellow Ragnarok owner, the pin in the mod is thin enough that it could potentially push up the atty's 510. However, you'd have to wrench it down pretty hard, which I assume you don't do. With the atty's connection pushed up, it's also possible the mod's pin was contacting the outside of the atty's 510. All things considered, I'd say you've successfully diagnosed and resolved the problem.

I think the Ragnarok is a great mod that has totally flown under everyone's radar. The only other thing I would suggest is giving the button assembly a good cleaning if you haven't already.
thank you for your response and i agree its a rock solid mod , i no longer have the heating up issue but i also contacted VLS and explained what was going on they just asked my address and immediatly sent a replacement switch just in case , i do believe it was a result of the plume veil's 510 (witch i have fixed and is working properly now) although i have fixed my problem the fact remains that vls sent me a new switch no questions asked gives them a A+ in my book i will be doing buisness with them again in the future for sure!
 
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