Auto VS Push Button

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Automaton

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That's true, but they also tend to die much younger, work less consistently, and be set off at inappropriate moments more often.

Some people like auto's, but after watching one of them fire continuously at a concert, or having them die after a bit of juice gets in the hole, most wind up either going to manuals, or increasing their budget for batteries.
 

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I've tried both of them and for me, it's manual. I didn't like having to constantly worry about juice getting into the auto battery. The ones I had were so hard to draw on and before I could get a decent draw, they cut off. I like the flexibility the manual has. Sometimes I want just a quick, short draw but other times I want a long one. I found the autos don't really allow for that.
 

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In my opinion, the auto batteries are much more realistic when I compare V9's nebula with USB Push button. I've also burned a couple of carts with the push button. :?:

You have to let go of the button. LOL If you like the auto batteries, that's great. One thing you might want to try, to get the most out of the manual batts, is to push the button a second or two before drawing on it. This will give you more vapor than what you get off the autos. I think that's why I like the manual batteries - I always had to do a couple "primer" draws on them to get a decent puff of vapor.

You'll find your own specific taste for vaping. Enjoy it, that's what is important!
 

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The link is a bit old and wonder if you have used something current as this industry is advancing really quick? Many of the posts against the auto is that they are not consistent. Isn't that on purpose to simulate a real cigarette? I don't want to be hooked to a machine that delivers the same exact quality hit every time....

Actually, from what I've seen, auto's are getting worse.

The best auto switch is a vacuum switch. It's the least likely to go off when it's not supposed to.

But they're more expensive. So everyone is moving to sound switches, which are notoriously terrible for going off all the time. The auto Kr808's used a vacuum switch for a long time, but I've heard recently that they're switching to noise switches to cut costs. And that's a shame.

No matter what auto you get, you have to worry about the hole in the connector. All cartos and atties also have holes in the bottom, so if they leak even a little, you can kill the battery. But leaking happens to everyone at some point. It's just part of vaping. So having that hole there means that you're very likely to eventually have an auto battery die before its time.

Also, no matter what kind of auto it is, as others have mentioned, you don't have a lot of control over the draw. They're very picky about how you draw on them, you have to take primer puffs, etc. I could never get as good of a hit out of auto's as I can out of manual's.

To me? It just doesn't seem like a good investment.
 

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That's not really what I meant. A real cigarette has wind, being a bit smushed or wet and others to deal with and doesn't always give the greatest of hit. A hit of smoke or vapor can only be so good....

With a manual, the hit can be very consistent. I think auto's are actually less consistent than cigarettes. I'm not sure why you would WANT inconsistency, but hey. Whatever works for you.

If you don't care about dealing with inconsistencies, and don't mind spending more on batteries due to them having a strong likelyhood of being killed by average use, you can certainly go with auto's if they makes you more comfortable.

We're just pointing out the reason why most people use manual's. Trust me, we all wish there was such a thing as a good auto battery that was more reliable, and less delicate. But right now, there isn't.

If you're ok with that, go ahead. But try at least one manual. You will adjust to the button a lot faster than you think, and I think you'll see the difference in performance pretty quickly.

I keep an auto battery around, for times when I just want that. But I would never trust an auto as my main vape. They just aren't reliable enough for me.
 

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I have lots of autos. They are gathering dust. Keep them as backups for my backups. Hope I never have to use them. Give them to friends who are serious about trying vaping. Love the volume of vapor I'm able to get off a manual. Thought I'd use the autos for hands-free vaping while tending plants in the yard, but it's not as satisfying. I've had a couple of manual buttons fail on me. Now I don't push quite so hard . . . :facepalm:
 

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Reasons I use manual batteries exclusively:

1) I can drip without worrying about juice leaking into the battery and killing it.
2) I have complete control over my vaping experience. I control the length of the drag, which in turn controls the amount of vapor and how much juice I'm vaping.
3) I can test my DIY juice without fear.
4) I'm not concerned about it firing accidentally in my pocket or purse because I have button protectors. Cheap and easy to use.
5) It won't be triggered by noise or wind, which is convenient for bike riding and driving around in convertibles.
6) They're easier to maintain and I think they last a lot longer than autos.
7) They hit and produce vapor more consistently.
 

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I've had both autos and manuals. Still using one of my original 808 autos from early July. The only manual I now use is on a passthrough at work -- all the others in use are auto.

I've seen issues with both, though never run into the infamous misfiring around loud noise.

Net, given there are some problems with all of them, I prefer the 808 auto. I don't drip, I do clear excess juice from my cartos before attaching them. The juices I use tend not to require prefiring with a manual, I don't see appreciable lag time to getting vapor.

Is a manual bad? No. Is it the answer for all people? No. Same holds true for the auto, of course.

(Aren't choices a marvelous thing to have? :) )
 
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