AVE... can they really be worth the hassle?

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Allen_B

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This may seem like an unforgiving post and totally insensitive, but AVE has been incredibly frustrating.

I have been trying in vain to give AVE some money for almost three months now, based solely on reviews here.

Everytime I try to order, there is "No active payment system". I realize they are trying to throttle their orders based on their ability to support, but I have never tried harder to give a business my money.

What gives? I can't believe they are even close to being worth it and they must have an incredible customer base to remain in business.


Frustrated and done with this nonsense... I'm sure other organizations would love to take my money.

Allen
 

dale1962

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Well first off I've been doing business with them since June of last year and the only time there has been no active payment system has been these last 2 sale's of 20% off that I'm aware of.Other than them 2 sales have never had any problem ordering from them.Now they have ran out of there flavorings for their 2 best selling items(gj,bb) from time to time but there is such a high demand.Also I'm not a fan boy but if your asking if AVE is worth it let me just put it this way I have been vaping for over 2 yrs. and there is not a better line of tobacco juice out there period and I have tried alot of them.
 
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Porphy

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It is rough, and I do empathize. I'm not a fan of this system anymore than anyone else. My ideal would be Kafkaesque... *dreamscape music*

"Porphy stands behind a podium setting the work beat on a tiny drum. Wookies frenetically slave away mixing juices into ever smaller quantities, while adding flavors, and shining bottles. The neutral tones of the environment keep the workers in a drone state, near ambulatory, just enough effort to produce work on a massive scale without revolting against the oppressor. In the distance a black phone rings on a desktop." *flash, you are awake!*

Seriously though, if I could process orders all day everyday and just keep the profit at a maximum I would, but I know my limitations and that of my employees. If we tried this we would be sunk. The number that we set for each day is substantial (I can say 100+ without giving away too much) and we're sure that it gives us plenty to do each day (we start around 6am and finish around 6pm, sometimes earlier and sometimes later but always 12hours or more). I just want to reiterate we are truncating the orders so we can wake up the next day and tackle the next set, we're not truncating orders to take time off or to leave people without (our main goal is to help our customers).

We do have an incredible customer base, that is true. Numbers aside I believe that I have some of the most awesome customers out there and they are getting taken care of. The draw back is that we're still "mom and pop" style so we have to handle a large customer base differently. We started this Black Friday trying to break out of that shell and failed miserably, we're down two employees rather than expanding LOL... One we had to let go in order to speed up, and Rafa's namesake found greener pastures (better opportunity elsewhere and we're happy for him).

Now we are looking forward to being open full time within a week or two, we are arranging to have the website streamlined and redone, and looking ourselves to greener pastures (some place to expand the business and set-up a storefront). This is a self-teaching exercise for my wife and I and I feel that we're doing well and I hope many people see it the same way. We are not exemplary though, you are right and again I do empathize... we'll get back to normal as soon as I can get us there. I don't think you're being unforgiving. I know the feeling when frustration builds for so long you have to let that energy out in some medium or burst and the fact that you stated your case well shows you've looked at it from a few angles. I'm just glad the forums are here to allow that expression and if nothing more than to keep that fire under my back end burning.
 

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Nobody I'd rather throw my money at than you guys after reading that...


It is rough, and I do empathize. I'm not a fan of this system anymore than anyone else. My ideal would be Kafkaesque... *dreamscape music*

"Porphy stands behind a podium setting the work beat on a tiny drum. Wookies frenetically slave away mixing juices into ever smaller quantities, while adding flavors, and shining bottles. The neutral tones of the environment keep the workers in a drone state, near ambulatory, just enough effort to produce work on a massive scale without revolting against the oppressor. In the distance a black phone rings on a desktop." *flash, you are awake!*

Seriously though, if I could process orders all day everyday and just keep the profit at a maximum I would, but I know my limitations and that of my employees. If we tried this we would be sunk. The number that we set for each day is substantial (I can say 100+ without giving away too much) and we're sure that it gives us plenty to do each day (we start around 6am and finish around 6pm, sometimes earlier and sometimes later but always 12hours or more). I just want to reiterate we are truncating the orders so we can wake up the next day and tackle the next set, we're not truncating orders to take time off or to leave people without (our main goal is to help our customers).

We do have an incredible customer base, that is true. Numbers aside I believe that I have some of the most awesome customers out there and they are getting taken care of. The draw back is that we're still "mom and pop" style so we have to handle a large customer base differently. We started this Black Friday trying to break out of that shell and failed miserably, we're down two employees rather than expanding LOL... One we had to let go in order to speed up, and Rafa's namesake found greener pastures (better opportunity elsewhere and we're happy for him).

Now we are looking forward to being open full time within a week or two, we are arranging to have the website streamlined and redone, and looking ourselves to greener pastures (some place to expand the business and set-up a storefront). This is a self-teaching exercise for my wife and I and I feel that we're doing well and I hope many people see it the same way. We are not exemplary though, you are right and again I do empathize... we'll get back to normal as soon as I can get us there. I don't think you're being unforgiving. I know the feeling when frustration builds for so long you have to let that energy out in some medium or burst and the fact that you stated your case well shows you've looked at it from a few angles. I'm just glad the forums are here to allow that expression and if nothing more than to keep that fire under my back end burning.
 

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Nobody I'd rather throw my money at than you guys after reading that...

So true. I stayed up the other night and got my order in right when the system came on :)

Can't be without my BB. I am in the habit now of ordering a new 100ml as soon as I open another at home, so I shouldn't run out.


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Allen_B

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I know I may sound like a whiny little child but that is not even close to my intent.

I actually am impressed that a store would manage their orders based on capability rather than taking a ton of orders and have folks sit for a month waiting for it to ship!

I will continue to try and be patient. Hope AVE can catch their collective breaths and have a VERY prosperous new year!


/r

Allen
 

eso

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Hell yes!...Damned well worth it!
They do,do their best for all us folk and it's very,very much appreciated! You'll not find finer people or product!
Simply give them a chance to shine even brighter than their usual(see...sparkling diamond),and they will!(see..super nova)
Thank you once again Mr. & Mrs.Porphy for all the voodoo you doo so well!
 

dotma

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Allen, you dont sound whiney, just frustrated and thats totally understandable. Like Dale said above, these last couple months have been the only time for me too when their system has been really a pain in the .... Is it worth it? -- UMM YES! I order juices from all over the place and the only ones that have been good enough to turn into my all day vapes are from there. To me it is worth the little extra effort to make sure that I have plenty on hand and order well in advance of when I think i will run out.
 

lostknitter

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I agree, I have never had problems getting AVE juice till the last few weeks, and really, even then I didn't have a problem, just tried the website each morning until it went thru, took a couple of days, no big deal. There are a lot of vendors in the e-cig world who have limited hours. Most of them are small businesses, it would be unreasonable to expect them to be open 24-7, 365 IMO. I'm sure AVE will be back up to speed in a short time. There is NO substitute for AVE's juice, they are in a class all by themselves.
 
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