Backing out... from a Provari?!

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I say whatever works for you is what you should stick with. My 31 year old son has been vaping for over 2 years and still likes cig-a-likes. He does use an MVP2 now as well though. I have been vaping on and off for the entire time but cig-a-likes never worked for me. I started buying better gear in Q4 last year and made the switch completely in November.

The Provari is awesome but you do not actually need it if you have what works for you and are happy.

As for tanks, I find that the Protank 2 works for me just like the MiniPT2 and does not hold that much more juice. I do not care for Kanger's BDC stuff but I do like the airflow controllers when used on the PT2s. I have cartos and carto tanks but find them to be a pain compared to dripping or Protanks. It all boils down to what you like, for you.
 

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@Australe:

Going from spinners to the ProVari would be a huge leap. And I do think you would be happy with it. The superior voltage regulation on that device is something to behold.

You won't get any of the voltage "lag" you experience when your spinners start to lose their charge. You will get a very consistent vape right down until you hit the "red".

If you are like me, you've sat at the ProVape site with everything in your cart and hovered over the Buy Now button and just couldn't pull the trigger. I get it. I ended up getting an MVP2 instead. I love them. Except once the battery dies on them...It dies. Just like the spinners.

They are a lot more convenient than a typical tube mode where you have to keep extra batteries in your pocket. The USB passthrough makes it easy to charge anywhere you have a micro USB phone charger or USB port. And best of all you can vape while charging.

Of course it's 2600mAh battery is more than enough to last more than 2 days for most of us, so you won't find yourself in that situation much. And if your cell phone is ever low and you need an extra boost, the MVP2 will even charge your cell phone.

It's a pretty nifty device. I'm still on the fence with the ProVari. For me...Variable Wattage is where i like to live. I like setting my device at 7.0 watts and knowing I will get that same flavor even when I swap tanks....But if you are a "spinner" then you are used to adjusting your voltage up and down between tank and juice changes...

I still think the ProVari is an awesome piece of kit....I haven't been able to pull the trigger yet....But I do recommend an MVP2. Even if you get a ProVari down the road, the MVP2 will still provide you with a high quality backup and you can use it while out an about while your ProVari stays nice and safe at home.....
 

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@Australe:

Going from spinners to the ProVari would be a huge leap. And I do think you would be happy with it. The superior voltage regulation on that device is something to behold.

You won't get any of the voltage "lag" you experience when your spinners start to lose their charge. You will get a very consistent vape right down until you hit the "red".

If you are like me, you've sat at the ProVape site with everything in your cart and hovered over the Buy Now button and just couldn't pull the trigger. I get it. I ended up getting an MVP2 instead. I love them. Except once the battery dies on them...It dies. Just like the spinners.

They are a lot more convenient than a typical tube mode where you have to keep extra batteries in your pocket. The USB passthrough makes it easy to charge anywhere you have a micro USB phone charger or USB port. And best of all you can vape while charging.

Of course it's 2600mAh battery is more than enough to last more than 2 days for most of us, so you won't find yourself in that situation much. And if your cell phone is ever low and you need an extra boost, the MVP2 will even charge your cell phone.

It's a pretty nifty device. I'm still on the fence with the ProVari. For me...Variable Wattage is where i like to live. I like setting my device at 7.0 watts and knowing I will get that same flavor even when I swap tanks....But if you are a "spinner" then you are used to adjusting your voltage up and down between tank and juice changes...

I still think the ProVari is an awesome piece of kit....I haven't been able to pull the trigger yet....But I do recommend an MVP2. Even if you get a ProVari down the road, the MVP2 will still provide you with a high quality backup and you can use it while out an about while your ProVari stays nice and safe at home.....

I totally agree, after spending some time this morning watching YouTube videos and really thinking over it in the past couple hours I believe an mvp2 2.0 shine is what I'll end up pulling the trigger on.
I really appreciate that people come to a thread like this and don't pass judgement, are reasonable and supportive. Especially since sometimes I feel like a nut case when trying to make up my mind which direction to go. It's fantastic to get advice from people who have been there done that. I value each of you.

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It's a pretty nifty device. I'm still on the fence with the ProVari. For me...Variable Wattage is where i like to live. I like setting my device at 7.0 watts and knowing I will get that same flavor even when I swap tanks....But if you are a "spinner" then you are used to adjusting your voltage up and down between tank and juice changes...

There is no real difference between a variable voltage device and a variable wattage device - see Watt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. You just need to do a little math if you are using a VV device.
 

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I think you should take a step back from searching for something to buy, and enjoy vaping. KEEP that money. Don't spend it. When your looking for a new mod to buy, you can find a new reason to get X or Y mod or a new reason to get X or Y tank, every 10 to 30 minutes you spend on your computer. I am very well-versed in this. Vaping has been my main hobby & time waster for years now. I have just began to realize now, after 5 years, that I never invested in juices to ENJOY. I only worried about finishing off my list of things I've always wanted. Mod types I've always wanted. I "couldn't" buy a sample bottle of each RY4 in the RY4 megathread because I didn't have my 2 eGo batteries, a collection of eGo sized clearos, a telescoping mechanical mod, a high quality mechanical mod, a hybrid mod, at least 2 genesis atomizers, at least 2 variable voltage mods, a passthrough for the car, a silverbullet, a collection of RDAs. Blah blah blah. I just "couldn't" focus on juice because I wasn't done collecting yet. But I realized I'll never be done collecting. I'll never be satisfied. Not until I let go and just vape. So that is what I'm doing now. & I think my vaping hobby is going to feel a lot more fun than it was feeling. Its going to feel like I'm doing it for the flavors & for the fun of exploration. I hopefully wont have to pinch every penny I make with a cross off my master list on my mind everytime I cash a paycheck or sell something.

Thats just me, I know. You probably don't/wouldn't have the same issues. But what I want you to get from this is that the Provari will always be there. Whether you wait 3 weeks, a month and a half, or till January 2015 to buy it, it'll still be there. It may even be improved upon. Or it may even be on sale at some point. (yeah right LOL) But you can wait. Waiting is your best option. Save your money until you know exactly what you'll be absolutely, positively happy owning. Be it a Provari or a Zmax or a Vamo with a ZAU on top. The longer you wait, the more money you can save while your waiting. Enjoy what you enjoy vaping now. Worry about what you could be enjoying once you've seen posts about the Provari enough to the point where you know you just gotta try it for yourself. Its the opposite of the quote in my signature.

You have to live in the present moment. I've loved buddhist quotes all my life. Researched buddhism since I hit 8th grade. Had books on it. Spent my week nights reading about it instead of doing homework. I follow the buddhist theories in my own life, my value system is based on what I've learned from them. But I just couldn't shake the want of this e-cig hobby. Once you shake it, your free.
 
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There is no real difference between a variable voltage device and a variable wattage device - see Watt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. You just need to do a little math if you are using a VV device.

This depends on your usage profile.

If you consistently tweak voltage to find your sweet spot on each juice and each tank, then you are right. There is no real difference.

However, I like to set mine for 7.0 watts. and leave it there. I have 4 mini PT2's each with varied coil resistance between 2.6 to 2.9 ohms and on a VV device I had to tweak up or down each time I changed a tank. On my VW I don't.

The best explanation I've heard regarding this issue is with a car.

Let's say I want to travel 60 miles an hour. I can either maintain my speed using the accelerator or I can put on the cruise control. The accelerator is like Variable Voltage, the cruise control is variable wattage.

On a flat road. There is little difference. I either provide constant pressure on the accelerator or set cruise control and I'm able to maintain my desired speed. But let's say I hit some hills (varied resistance). With an accelerator, I have to continually adjust my accelerator to maintain 60 mph as I climb or descend the hills. With cruise control, the car will automatically adjust voltage to maintain my set speed.

Same thing holds true with variable voltage and variable wattage. If my resistance coil changes, I have to manually adjust voltage to maintain my desired power output (watts). With variable wattage, the device does it for me.
 

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    Australe

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    I actually started reading this on my phone and decided to come back to it on the computer so it was easier for me to type.
    You have a really great piece of advice there. Kind of the other side to the coin.
    I have decided to spend less money on an MPV 2 that seems to be a really great stepping stone. Saving the money right now to invest in trying more juice. Try more flavors out and find the things that I really like. Its been quite a bit of fun and I really want to keep it that way. I really don't want to end up with a massive collection of 'stuff', which really is why I was seriously considering getting a Provari. And my husband is still getting one. I highly doubt that Provape is going anywhere any time soon as well. They'll be there for me when I get ready to get one. I do want one. Yes I do.... I guess just not right now. Maybe part of the fun is being able to try several different things out :)

    I think you should take a step back from searching for something to buy, and enjoy vaping. KEEP that money. Don't spend it. When your looking for a new mod to buy, you can find a new reason to get X or Y mod or a new reason to get X or Y tank, every 10 to 30 minutes you spend on your computer. I am very well-versed in this. Vaping has been my main hobby & time waster for years now. I have just began to realize now, after 5 years, that I never invested in juices to ENJOY. I only worried about finishing off my list of things I've always wanted. Mod types I've always wanted. I "couldn't" buy a sample bottle of each RY4 in the RY4 megathread because I didn't have my 2 eGo batteries, a collection of eGo sized clearos, a telescoping mechanical mod, a high quality mechanical mod, a hybrid mod, at least 2 genesis atomizers, at least 2 variable voltage mods, a passthrough for the car, a silverbullet, a collection of RDAs. Blah blah blah. I just "couldn't" focus on juice because I wasn't done collecting yet. But I realized I'll never be done collecting. I'll never be satisfied. Not until I let go and just vape. So that is what I'm doing now. & I think my vaping hobby is going to feel a lot more fun than it was feeling. Its going to feel like I'm doing it for the flavors & for the fun of exploration. I hopefully wont have to pinch every penny I make with a cross off my master list on my mind everytime I cash a paycheck or sell something.

    Thats just me, I know. You probably don't/wouldn't have the same issues. But what I want you to get from this is that the Provari will always be there. Whether you wait 3 weeks, a month and a half, or till January 2015 to buy it, it'll still be there. It may even be improved upon. Or it may even be on sale at some point. (yeah right LOL) But you can wait. Waiting is your best option. Save your money until you know exactly what you'll be absolutely, positively happy owning. Be it a Provari or a Zmax or a Vamo with a ZAU on top. The longer you wait, the more money you can save while your waiting. Enjoy what you enjoy vaping now. Worry about what you could be enjoying once you've seen posts about the Provari enough to the point where you know you just gotta try it for yourself. Its the opposite of the quote in my signature.

    You have to live in the present moment. I've loved buddhist quotes all my life. Researched buddhism since I hit 8th grade. Had books on it. Spent my week nights reading about it instead of doing homework. I follow the buddhist theories in my own life, my value system is based on what I've learned from them. But I just couldn't shake the want of this e-cig hobby. Once you shake it, your free.
     

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    :thumb: *lightbulb* Thank you for that. It totally just clicked.

    This depends on your usage profile.

    If you consistently tweak voltage to find your sweet spot on each juice and each tank, then you are right. There is no real difference.

    However, I like to set mine for 7.0 watts. and leave it there. I have 4 mini PT2's each with varied coil resistance between 2.6 to 2.9 ohms and on a VV device I had to tweak up or down each time I changed a tank. On my VW I don't.

    The best explanation I've heard regarding this issue is with a car.

    Let's say I want to travel 60 miles an hour. I can either maintain my speed using the accelerator or I can put on the cruise control. The accelerator is like Variable Voltage, the cruise control is variable wattage.

    On a flat road. There is little difference. I either provide constant pressure on the accelerator or set cruise control and I'm able to maintain my desired speed. But let's say I hit some hills (varied resistance). With an accelerator, I have to continually adjust my accelerator to maintain 60 mph as I climb or descend the hills. With cruise control, the car will automatically adjust voltage to maintain my set speed.

    Same thing holds true with variable voltage and variable wattage. If my resistance coil changes, I have to manually adjust voltage to maintain my desired power output (watts). With variable wattage, the device does it for me.
     

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    I got a little freaked before i bought my provari too,
    Then i just did it and bought two lol. I also bought the 510/ego adapters. And they work great.

    I also have had the spinner (rainbow) itaste vv3 and mvp2

    After getting my provaris and using them a month i sold my spinner.
    I find it frustrating to use my vv3 and the mvp2 works fine, but its not the same as my provari.

    Point is, if you never get a provari you wont miss it.
    Or you wont know what you are missing, depends on how you look at it.

    I bought mine because i was still smoking 10 or more cigarettes a day.
    Now im down to about three a day, sometimes none.

    I also wanted something that was repairable as my fist mvp2 died 3 days after using it.
    My provari with the 18490 batteries lasts me all day.

    It is fine if you dont want to purchase a provari, but i dont feel you would regret if you did.

    I even build my own coils on rda's and use it on my provari.

    Most of my tanks now are cartotanks, but another good 510 tank that is glass and similar as the mpt2 is the smoktech pbc v2, i dound mine at desertvapes, i think madvapes has it as well.

    I suggest trying one out, it looks beautiful on a provari.

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    The best explanation I've heard regarding this issue is with a car.

    Great! I was thinking of the car analogy from a different direction, though. I've got a five speed manuel with no tachometer. Trust me; I know whether to shift up, down, or just leave it alone. Same with my twist. I do not need to get a magnifying glass and read the numbers.
     

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    with your husband getting one, you'll be able to try his and use his too from time to time...good idea getting one initially, and seeing how it goes that way first-if you do get one of the mvp2's let us know which you choose-shine or regular, and if you wrap it or not:) Good luck to you! The group of us who ordered our shines on Thursday seemed to have gotten ours all on Saterday already:)(quick shipping-wow!)
     

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    We drove two hours to go to Liberty Vapors. They had an mvp 2 that I got to play with and use. After using one I couldn't help but to buy. I'm pleased to announce that my mvp2 has the on/off button on the bottom already shimmed down, glad to see Innokin fixed that. So happy with my choice. They have me a free wrap with it and I'll be hunting around for other wraps, for right now I like it how it is.

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