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Backwoods Brew--flavor thoughts
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I couldn't improve on that. It's a very strange combination of flavors - like I said, I think you'd either love it or hate it!
As far as discontinued, they did a batch each of RY4 and eJoker several weeks ago. I had never tried either, and happened to stumble in at just the right moment. I have no idea how often they will be available, but I'm betting they will be from time to time.
You might just like it more when it is fresher, and once it has steeped, the flavors that come out are just not to your liking. To me, 555E has strong notes of hay, floral, and Turkish tobacco. Put it together and it tastes like shisha to me. For some reason, I have trouble detecting any particular nuttiness, but that might be because there are multiple types of nuts in there.
Gotta hate when you you fall out of love with a juice.
E-Joker is RY4 with menthol and red hot cinnamon added.
Don @ BWB has been talking about just getting rid of both of these juices permanently because some of the ingredients are very hard to come by, and also because when he actually does have these in stock, people start to get out of line if they can't get any, which leads to lots of hate e-mails and frustration for Don. Don is also working diligently to reformulate the recipe with ingredients that are more readily available. We shall see....
My personal favorites from BWB are Virginia and Casablanca. Virginia is a very bright tobacco that is reminiscent of the smell that you get when you open up a fresh pack of American Spirits. Tobacco essence at its finest. Casablanca tastes like a rich Turkish tobacco with a heavy overtone of roasted cocoa bean. Just heavenly!
You might just like it more when it is fresher, and once it has steeped, the flavors that come out are just not to your liking. To me, 555E has strong notes of hay, floral, and Turkish tobacco. Put it together and it tastes like shisha to me. For some reason, I have trouble detecting any particular nuttiness, but that might be because there are multiple types of nuts in there.
Gotta hate when you you fall out of love with a juice.
Thanks for your input, spaceballsrules. Yeah, it's entirely possible that I like 555 E more when it's not fully steeped because what I have now sounds more like what you describe. I've found this to be the case with Boba's Bounty for me as well, although I don't dislike it when it's fully steeped -- I just prefer it fresh. Also possible that my tastes have changed, which would be unfortunate because 555 E was one of my favorites, and it was one that helped me decide to finally kick analogs. Tell you what -- I'll put a 10 mL of 555 E on my next order, and if the results are interesting, I'll report back. Could be a while though, because I'm pretty fully stocked on BWB juice at the moment!
I definitely agree with you on Virginia and Casablanca! I think Virginia is one of the best straight-forward tobacco juices on the market, at least that I've tried, and Casablanca is just in a class of its own. Somebody in another thread (Backwoods juice and steeping) tried to tell me that Casablanca took no more than 10 days to steep. I think it needs about a month, maybe more. What has your experience been on steep time for that one?
Thanks for your input, spaceballsrules. Yeah, it's entirely possible that I like 555 E more when it's not fully steeped because what I have now sounds more like what you describe. I've found this to be the case with Boba's Bounty for me as well, although I don't dislike it when it's fully steeped -- I just prefer it fresh. Also possible that my tastes have changed, which would be unfortunate because 555 E was one of my favorites, and it was one that helped me decide to finally kick analogs. Tell you what -- I'll put a 10 mL of 555 E on my next order, and if the results are interesting, I'll report back. Could be a while though, because I'm pretty fully stocked on BWB juice at the moment!
I definitely agree with you on Virginia and Casablanca! I think Virginia is one of the best straight-forward tobacco juices on the market, at least that I've tried, and Casablanca is just in a class of its own. Somebody in another thread (Backwoods juice and steeping) tried to tell me that Casablanca took no more than 10 days to steep. I think it needs about a month, maybe more. What has your experience been on steep time for that one?
I actually bought my Casablanca through the ECF classifieds, so I have not had the opportunity to taste it fresh.
I am running low, so I will soon be putting an order in for more, which means I will finally be able to! What I get from Casablanca is a dark exotic tobacco undertone with a really bright roasted cocoa bean finish. What I really love about it is that it complements just about everything, from beer and wine to coffee, or even just a great after-meal vape. Ditto for Virginia, the most underrated BWB juice.I figure I should respond to the OP before I am labeled a thread-jacker.
The only one of those juices I have tried is the Applewood. It tastes like a tart green apple over the Backo base. It sorta kinda reminds me of a sour apple Jolly Rancher, but less candy flavor. Very refreshing.
I have found that all of the fruit'n'tobacco blends from BWB (Cherry, BWB Blend, OF) are too heavy on the fruit, so I end up cutting them with Backo or Virginia to get them to levels that are more to my liking. Goldilocks complex, anyone?
Since there has been some chatter in this thread about nuttiness, I have to mention the Hazelnut Tobacco. When I tasted it fresh, I was immediately hit with a sense memory. It tasted exactly the same as the scent that comes from a freshly opened bag of almond flour. I know, wrong nut, but that is what I got from it. As it has steeped, the tobacco has bloomed, but that sweet roasted nut flour flavor is still very prominent.
Honestly, BWB doesn't make bad juices. They are all well balanced and flavorful. It just depends on your personal preferences as to which juices you will reach for most often.
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I won't try to prejudice your experience with my strong opinions on unsteeped Casablanca, spaceballsrules, but I will say that of all the juices that I've tried, that one probably undergoes the most radical transformation. Personally I like it when it gets a nice, deep orange color, and it takes a while. There's nothing finer than well-steeped Casablanca, but it tests the upper threshold of my patience getting it there!
My complaint with BWB's fruity tobaccos is exactly the same as yours, but the funny thing is that it never occurred to me to solve the issue by mixing it with a tobacco flavor!
Thanks for that piece of insight! 
I just loaded up some Hunter's Blend that's been steeping for a couple of weeks now, and that's a pretty solid tobacco vape too. I think I've tried about half of everything that BWB offers, and the only one I've tried that I wasn't at least partially fond of was the BWB Blend.
I will say this, 3 (OP): If you look at the reviews on Backwoods' site and read through the posts in their forum, you will probably not find one juice that they offer that isn't someone's favorite. Some flavors are more popular than others, but they probably offer a little something for everyone. Each vendor's take on e-liquid is a little different and I go to other vendors because they offer some other type of experience, and I don't know if I could say that BWB is my favorite vendor, but I always come back to them. In my opinion, their catalog is just the right size (enough variety without being an overwhelming 100+ flavors like some vendors), and they offer a great, unique product. I dallied with vaping for a couple of years, but it really took the right equipment and the right juice to make me decide that vaping was indeed better than smoking. Backwoods was instrumental in helping me make that decision.
When you receive your BWB order, try them all out. If you love it, vape away! If you don't, put it somewhere dark and cool for a couple of weeks and see if you like it then. If it turns out you absolutely can't stand it (which I doubt will happen, but who knows?), you can trade it on the forum because they're one of the most beloved vendors out there. At any rate, you can't go wrong!
I have found that all of the fruit'n'tobacco blends from BWB (Cherry, BWB Blend, OF) are too heavy on the fruit, so I end up cutting them with Backo or Virginia to get them to levels that are more to my liking. Goldilocks complex, anyone?
My complaint with BWB's fruity tobaccos is exactly the same as yours, but the funny thing is that it never occurred to me to solve the issue by mixing it with a tobacco flavor!
Thanks for that piece of insight! I just loaded up some Hunter's Blend that's been steeping for a couple of weeks now, and that's a pretty solid tobacco vape too. I think I've tried about half of everything that BWB offers, and the only one I've tried that I wasn't at least partially fond of was the BWB Blend.
I will say this, 3 (OP): If you look at the reviews on Backwoods' site and read through the posts in their forum, you will probably not find one juice that they offer that isn't someone's favorite. Some flavors are more popular than others, but they probably offer a little something for everyone. Each vendor's take on e-liquid is a little different and I go to other vendors because they offer some other type of experience, and I don't know if I could say that BWB is my favorite vendor, but I always come back to them. In my opinion, their catalog is just the right size (enough variety without being an overwhelming 100+ flavors like some vendors), and they offer a great, unique product. I dallied with vaping for a couple of years, but it really took the right equipment and the right juice to make me decide that vaping was indeed better than smoking. Backwoods was instrumental in helping me make that decision.
When you receive your BWB order, try them all out. If you love it, vape away! If you don't, put it somewhere dark and cool for a couple of weeks and see if you like it then. If it turns out you absolutely can't stand it (which I doubt will happen, but who knows?), you can trade it on the forum because they're one of the most beloved vendors out there. At any rate, you can't go wrong!
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Shhhh! No Casablanca spoiler alerts! LOL
I agree with pretty much everything else in your post.....Well said.
How would you describe Conundrum, genelman? I've been curious about that one myself.
I figure I should respond to the OP before I am labeled a thread-jacker.
No no, my man. This thread has gone exactly where I wanted it to. Deep descriptions are great. Not only have I become content in my purchase from BWB, but I've also taken from this that either way I will have a great basis of comparison. And seeing how passionate some folks can get about this stuff pleases me greatly. I can't wait to share my thoughts of their juice with you guys. Hate it when you realize you've lost whoever was listening to you ramble on about something your into. Then they think your just crazy haha, sucks. Not the case here.
Ramble on!
I teach classes at the local college, so you've pretty much summed up my entire existence...
Can't wait to hear your thoughts when you get your BWB order! In the meantime, we'll keep on a-ramblin'!
I agree about trying them all out first thing.
You may very well like a juice that many people prefer steeped PLUS you will also be able to tell the difference in a juice that you do not care for right away, let steep and then try again and wind up loving it.
A bit of advice: always keep a few carts and atties around just for this purpose.
You do not want to fill a whole carto with a flavor and then decide it is not to your liking just yet.
You can try to pull the juice out with a syringe but carts are so much easier to clean and are perfect for just a taste.
Use a clean atty also so there is not lingering peach when you try RY4 or vice versa.
You may very well like a juice that many people prefer steeped PLUS you will also be able to tell the difference in a juice that you do not care for right away, let steep and then try again and wind up loving it.
A bit of advice: always keep a few carts and atties around just for this purpose.
You do not want to fill a whole carto with a flavor and then decide it is not to your liking just yet.
You can try to pull the juice out with a syringe but carts are so much easier to clean and are perfect for just a taste.
Use a clean atty also so there is not lingering peach when you try RY4 or vice versa.
ive had quite a few of bwb juices- ry4 and ejoker was my favs untill I found bobas from ave, and bounty hunter from nlv. If your into fruit- orchard frost is excellent, there blueberry is excellent as well and im not even a fruit vaper....
Carmel cappuccino tastes like a high quality cappuccino with a hint of carmel, let it steep a while and wow- very strong and flavorfull even though most bwb flavors are more subtle. I realized i had a few ml of carmel cap left (steeped 2 months) and threw it in a stardust the other night and it was fantastic- just a little too much for an allday vape for me but a fantastic juice.
There 555 exotic is good too but i kept getting a cedar aftertaste i didnt care for- nlv linerider (a 555) was better in my opinion.
Ive tried alot of other bwb juices too but these are the ones that popped in my head- I still want to try there malty toffee
Carmel cappuccino tastes like a high quality cappuccino with a hint of carmel, let it steep a while and wow- very strong and flavorfull even though most bwb flavors are more subtle. I realized i had a few ml of carmel cap left (steeped 2 months) and threw it in a stardust the other night and it was fantastic- just a little too much for an allday vape for me but a fantastic juice.
There 555 exotic is good too but i kept getting a cedar aftertaste i didnt care for- nlv linerider (a 555) was better in my opinion.
Ive tried alot of other bwb juices too but these are the ones that popped in my head- I still want to try there malty toffee
I have Ejoker, Ry4, Dulce de Leche and Root Beer, I dont like root beer that much all other are superb.
My next order will include malty toffee and casablanca
My next order will include malty toffee and casablanca
Malty Toffee is pretty decent, and seems to have a broad appeal. I generally don't like juices that are very sweet. It was a little sweet for my taste at first (borderline cloying), but either my senses got used to it or it mellowed out. At either rate, it's a really nice juice that produces tons of vapor, and well worth trying if that sort of thing sounds appealing.
I totally agree about the Root Beer. Not my cup of tea. Haven't tried the Caramel Cap, Dulce de Leche, or Blueberry though, although I've been curious about all three.
I totally agree about the Root Beer. Not my cup of tea. Haven't tried the Caramel Cap, Dulce de Leche, or Blueberry though, although I've been curious about all three.
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My BWB order arrived ealier today!
I'm gonna wait a couple more days before I post details, simply because it has only been one day.
Now, what I can say is that caramel cap has been the most pleasant slap in the face that I have ever received. What a pronounced flavor...so spot on...and fresh out of the box! I seriously can't help myself around this juice. I'm a cap addict. It is fantastic to say the least, and if it gets better with steep I just won't know how to handle it. The whole house smells like exquisite coffee bean if I just drag then let out without taking into lungs. Makes me want to go to a starbucks and let vape in the face of those darned hipsters wearing beanies, fake glasses and scarfs while they pretend to read. Like I said, in a couple of days I'll stab at a good description for the three flavors I got.
Anyhow Tez you should sate your senses with this one man
I'm gonna wait a couple more days before I post details, simply because it has only been one day.
Now, what I can say is that caramel cap has been the most pleasant slap in the face that I have ever received. What a pronounced flavor...so spot on...and fresh out of the box! I seriously can't help myself around this juice. I'm a cap addict. It is fantastic to say the least, and if it gets better with steep I just won't know how to handle it. The whole house smells like exquisite coffee bean if I just drag then let out without taking into lungs. Makes me want to go to a starbucks and let vape in the face of those darned hipsters wearing beanies, fake glasses and scarfs while they pretend to read. Like I said, in a couple of days I'll stab at a good description for the three flavors I got.
Anyhow Tez you should sate your senses with this one man
LOL! Will do, man -- I'll throw throw a bottle into the cart on my next order! I don't know why I've never ordered that one, honestly. I pretty much love anything caramel and I like their Cappuccino well enough. I love the idea of blowing some vape rings into some hipster faces too! 
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the others in due time!
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the others in due time!
OK I just got my order today which had Casablanca, Malty, Malty Toffee, and Pina Colada.
Tezcatlipoca, you were so right about the difference in color with the Casa. The new bottle is a light amber hue, whereas the steeped is a deep red, as you described. As for flavor, it just has different highs and lows, but the flavors are consistent.
Malty - Tastes like cotton candy from the state fair, but it has a note of burnt sugar that reminds me of the smell of a cotton candy machine after it's been used. Needs some steeping, as the flavor is very light.
Malty Toffee - Malty with a rich dark caramel overtone. Again, this needs some steeping.
Pina Colada - The flavor is authentic. The pineapple has the right amount of tartness, and the coconut is sweet and in your face. There is a nice subtle creaminess. This isn't necessarily a go to flavor for me, but it will nice to have around to switch things up. This one is good straight out of the mailbox IMO.
Tezcatlipoca, you were so right about the difference in color with the Casa. The new bottle is a light amber hue, whereas the steeped is a deep red, as you described. As for flavor, it just has different highs and lows, but the flavors are consistent.
Malty - Tastes like cotton candy from the state fair, but it has a note of burnt sugar that reminds me of the smell of a cotton candy machine after it's been used. Needs some steeping, as the flavor is very light.
Malty Toffee - Malty with a rich dark caramel overtone. Again, this needs some steeping.
Pina Colada - The flavor is authentic. The pineapple has the right amount of tartness, and the coconut is sweet and in your face. There is a nice subtle creaminess. This isn't necessarily a go to flavor for me, but it will nice to have around to switch things up. This one is good straight out of the mailbox IMO.
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