BackWoods Brew Review: Malty Toffee

[upstatEpuff]

This is the first time I have ever placed my thoughts on a juice in a post. It may not follow reviews that your used to but I did my best. I've heard so much about Backwoods juice I had to place an order myself.


Just got my shipment from Don at Backwoods Brew today in the Mail. I ordered it on Christmas Day at about 11:30pm and it arrived 4 days later. Very good turnaround considering the holiday and some issues Don's been dealing with (my prayers go out to his family). It's packaging is what I would have come to expect from juice vendors. My 5/10ml btls were in a plastic sandwich type bag and neatly held together and rolled up. Then placed in your typical bubble wrap lined envelope for transport. The bottles themselves are not childproof which is not an issue for me since I am childless (I do have my dogs though) which to me doesn't matter as a childproof cap isnt going to stop my big dogs from biting holes in the bottles in the got ahold of them. As with all juices we must take care in where we keep them. The labeling is nice and neat computer generated with the name and logo appearing on every bottle. It also has the date it has made (mine says 12/27/10) which I think is neat!!! as well as nicotine strength. A small warning label and broad list of ingredients (PG, VG and flavorings)

I ordered Nutty, Malty Toffee, Virginia, 555 and Honey Flue Nut. All were 24mg but I must have forgotten to specify on Virginia when I placed the order as it came in 0mg strength which is ok by me.

So Far I have only tried Malty Toffee but wanted to put up a review on it while I still had initial thoughts fresh in my head.
Malty Toffee 24mg - The Darkest in color of the five I ordered almost compares perfectly to a toffee color or maple syrup color. Has a sweet smell to it and now understand why people have trouble describing the smell of this juice. What comes to my mind is a praline candy type smell, it's familiar but can't quite exactly pinpoint the aroma, all in all it's a pleasant not too overpowering smell. Now to test this juice I will be using a LUX from Modern Vapor with one of Tony's ss902 atomizer's (Modern Vapors Low Resistance atty). It has a smooth inhale with a very slight sweet taste to it. Moderate throat hit, middle of the road for me with an above average vapor production. Neither throat hit or vapor production are very strong or high but it's actually right in the range where I like it. I am not a fan of a huge throat hit and as most of us enjoy a large vapor producing juice it does create a good amount of vapor, I guess we could always say more would be better but this doesnt leave you disappointed in the vapor production area. On the exhale it has a definite taste of taking a bite of a heath bar and a whopper at the same time. It is one of those flavors that smells like it tastes on the exhale. Still with that slight familiar side to it you just can't put your finger on.

All in all I must admit that the reviews I have read about Backwoods Brew and Malty Toffee are true. I could definitely see this an an all day vape, just the right amount of sweetness and flavor. Not overpowering where it would be considered sickly sweet but just enough where it makes you want to hit it again. Very good juice and Must say Don has something going with this one. if all his juices come in like this one I may have found a permanent supplier.

As I try the other flavors I will post my comments on them as well. Hope you enjoyed my first review and look forward to posting more.

 

[Strauss95]

Great review! I love Don's Malty Toffee too, but my favorite from him is the Honey Flue Nut Tobacco! You should try that one next, since it was great right outta the mailbox for me! It was love at first vape, and now HFN lives on my Reo Grand. Since I first tried it almost 3 weeks ago, it hasn't come off the Reo at all, only for a second to re-fill the bottle

As you probably already know, Applewood Tobacco is also AMAZING from BWB. If you order bigger bottles of what you like from your first order, make sure you order some Applewood, you won't be dissapointed!

 

[upstatEpuff]

I'll def have to keep that in mind and grab some applewood, BWB has such great prices for juice you can't go wrong trying something new. As of right now I haven't stopped vaping the Malty Toffee, not even long enough to try any of the other flavors, so that'll be a repeat purchase from Don anyway.

 

[guitardedmark]

Good flavor on this one, just not enough... And very little TH.

 

[upstatEpuff]

To Each is Own. But I'm pretty sure I said just that in the review.
Thanks for the pair of Lincoln's

 

[MsOceanCity]

Good flavor on this one, just not enough... And very little TH.

My sentiments exactly!

 

[AlmightyGod]

Malty Toffee is a steeper...it will change from the clearish brown color to an orange...then lookout...flavor galore...makes my face flush...really good!!!

 

[pasture]

its good. i only taste the malty part. another weak flavor from BWB in my opinion.

 

[benjayman2]

Malty Toffee is a steeper...it will change from the clearish brown color to an orange...then lookout...flavor galore...makes my face flush...really good!!!

I'll be sure to let it steep when it comes in, thanks.

 

[Lyndagayle]

I think it's the subtlety of Don's flavors that make you want to keep going back for more. I like to think of it as "flirting." Too much of a good thing drives one away quickly but BWB flavors seem to flirt with your sense of taste. I have literally gone into vaping frenzies with several of these flavors and MT is one of them. Very nice review!

 

[AlmightyGod]

How true Lynda.
I really don't get where people call the flavor weak. They must either have burnt taste buds or are looking for flavor overload. I think BWB has plenty of flavor, but it isn't for the folks who buy from other suppliers & request extra flavor or double flavor. I don't think a lot of those people could tell the difference between a Coke & a Pepsi or Asti & Dom or Mahi & Catfish either. So, if you have no palate...don't expect the magic that rest of us experience.

 

[phorbin]

thats odd...this appears to be the first time i've drooled over this thread....weird.

been vaping MT all day in the new Grand and it is hella good in that set up!

 

[upstatEpuff]

I like that AG, funny thing is I was just posting something about this same topic in a group discussion. I guess that's why there's other companies out there that offer flavor adjustments. It just happens that I like BWB the way it is. On the other hand, if I did order juice from another company and wasnt happy with the flavor level, I'm not sure if I would go back to them again if they offered flavor adjustments anyway. There are too many suppliers out there and unless you are Almighty God Himself who can tell if a flavor you've never tried is going to need xtra flavor how does that option work anyway? Doesn't compute in my head.

 

[AlmightyGod]

I like that AG, funny thing is I was just posting something about this same topic in a group discussion. I guess that's why there's other companies out there that offer flavor adjustments. It just happens that I like BWB the way it is. On the other hand, if I did order juice from another company and wasnt happy with the flavor level, I'm not sure if I would go back to them again if they offered flavor adjustments anyway. There are too many suppliers out there and unless you are Almighty God Himself who can tell if a flavor you've never tried is going to need xtra flavor how does that option work anyway? Doesn't compute in my head.

I appreciate that a lot of testing has gone into Don's particular mixes. Using different ratios of PG/VG/Flavoring might change the intended outcome of the overall taste/performance. I guess that having a good, solid, consistent juice means that some will say it is perfect, while others may feel less than such.

I do get a little frustrated when I see people make comments about the flavors, and then see them tout the flavor-overload suppliers. Why do they feel it necessary to push one down just to make their "brand" appear better! It is a common issue at ECF...which is better A, B, or C...some folks are good at saying, " It just depends,"....while others must stand on the someone else's shoulders to make their favorite better. I can't say that BWB is better than another product, I just like BWB better. I suggest to everyone to try it. It does require you to not have burned up taste buds to get the full flavor & awesomeness.

If it turns out you BWB isn't for you, there will be no problem finding a taker in the classifieds or PIF. BTW, how often does BWB appear in those threads? The answer is: not nearly as often as many other suppliers...that, to me, is proof in the pudding....much more so than when a few trolls crash the positive reviews. You will notice that the BWB loyalists don't go around trashing the other suppliers products.

 

[Vapenstein]

I am against extra flavor and unlimited PG/VG ratios. Usually places that do this don't have very good juice.

However, I do think every vendor should be willing to make these customizations for customers, on a per request basis. It's about making people happy, just as long as they understand that their custom mix is not representative of what that juice is supposed to be like and the vendor can make no guarantees on custom blends.

 

[AlmightyGod]

I am against extra flavor and unlimited PG/VG ratios. Usually places that do this don't have very good juice.

However, I do think every vendor should be willing to make these customizations for customers, on a per request basis. It's about making people happy, just as long as they understand that their custom mix is not representative of what that juice is supposed to be like and the vendor can make no guarantees on custom blends.

I feel customization opens up a can of worms. My fear arises that we end up with people doing reviews on a juice at 70/30...someone buys it at 40/60...and then gets on ECF & claims it has no throat hit.

I do sympathize with those with PG allergies...that is the fly in the ointment so to speak. How to cater to those customers, without sacrificing a signature product may be an impossibility.

Once you start making exceptions, it becomes very difficult to turn back.

With that said, BWB, in my experience, will do anything they can to make the customer happy, short of changing their product to try & suit every person's needs or wants.

I would equate this to ordering a Big Mac without special sauce...is it still a Big Mac?

 

[guitardedmark]

How true Lynda.
I really don't get where people call the flavor weak. They must either have burnt taste buds or are looking for flavor overload. I think BWB has plenty of flavor, but it isn't for the folks who buy from other suppliers & request extra flavor or double flavor. I don't think a lot of those people could tell the difference between a Coke & a Pepsi or Asti & Dom or Mahi & Catfish either. So, if you have no palate...don't expect the magic that rest of us experience.

I have an EXTREMELY sensative palette but I still find BWB flavors way too weak. They are not wholesome and satisfying to me. With Malty Toffee, I taste absolutely no Toffee at all. It tastes like a sweetened malty rather than a Malty Toffee. I never do extra flavor, but the 8% or so flavoring Don uses is just not enough...

 

[guitardedmark]

I appreciate that a lot of testing has gone into Don's particular mixes. Using different ratios of PG/VG/Flavoring might change the intended outcome of the overall taste/performance. I guess that having a good, solid, consistent juice means that some will say it is perfect, while others may feel less than such.

I do get a little frustrated when I see people make comments about the flavors, and then see them tout the flavor-overload suppliers. Why do they feel it necessary to push one down just to make their "brand" appear better! It is a common issue at ECF...which is better A, B, or C...some folks are good at saying, " It just depends,"....while others must stand on the someone else's shoulders to make their favorite better. I can't say that BWB is better than another product, I just like BWB better. I suggest to everyone to try it. It does require you to not have burned up taste buds to get the full flavor & awesomeness.

If it turns out you BWB isn't for you, there will be no problem finding a taker in the classifieds or PIF. BTW, how often does BWB appear in those threads? The answer is: not nearly as often as many other suppliers...that, to me, is proof in the pudding....much more so than when a few trolls crash the positive reviews. You will notice that the BWB loyalists don't go around trashing the other suppliers products.

Correction, I see a lot of BWB loyalists trashing other vendors. Specifically FSUSA. Neither 2 are my favorite vendor and I definitely have some big dislikes of both companies. I could really care less who bashes who. They are vendors, they can take care of themselves...

 

[guitardedmark]

I feel customization opens up a can of worms. My fear arises that we end up with people doing reviews on a juice at 70/30...someone buys it at 40/60...and then gets on ECF & claims it has no throat hit.

I do sympathize with those with PG allergies...that is the fly in the ointment so to speak. How to cater to those customers, without sacrificing a signature product may be an impossibility.

Once you start making exceptions, it becomes very difficult to turn back.

With that said, BWB, in my experience, will do anything they can to make the customer happy, short of changing their product to try & suit every person's needs or wants.

I would equate this to ordering a Big Mac without special sauce...is it still a Big Mac?

Lol... Fanboy alert! Yes a big mac without special sauce is still a big mac... It's a big mac without special sauce... I do think allow specific PG/VG requests does allow for people to mess up a good thing but I also think the vendor should offer SOME customization. Maybe 30/70, 50/50, 70/30.

I can tell you from first hand experience, the most viciously loyal fans are FSUSA fans but BWB fans will stop at nothing to convince everyone else that BWB is the best juice available. Your doing exactly what you said you disliked earlier...

 

[phorbin]

I don't really feel the need for a huge flaming session today. I'll just say this. I read a ton of reviews. I write them on occasion. I am, obviously, a loyal fan of BWB as well. And so are quite a few other people following this thread. Having gotten to read a lot of their reviews, and even get to know some of these folks personally, I can't disagree with you more guitarded. Yes, we are loyal to BWB, but I for one am not blindly loyal. And not exclusively loyal either. On many occasions I have stated my love of FSUSA juice, of MsTs (does anyone make more tasty desert flavors than her?) and have been openly critical of BWB juice that i don't like. So has AlmightyGod, whom you seem to have set your focus on.

There really is nothing wrong with being a fan of a certain juice or certain company is there? I haven't seen you trashing Boba's bounty yet in the "official Boba's Bounty Review thread". Why not? AVEJuice in general, and Boba's in particular has a fan base every bit as loyal as BWB.

If you don't like the juice fine, say you don't like the juice. But maybe from this point forward we can lay off the personal attacks. And that goes for both sides, mine included.