you would love the BWB dulche de leche. the least overpowering juice on the market unless you consider straight PG/VG a flavor.
BackWoods Brew Review: Malty Toffee
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you would love the BWB dulche de leche. the least overpowering juice on the market unless you consider straight PG/VG a flavor.
Thanks, pasture...that's one BWB juice I haven't tried yet but have been thinking about ordering.
I like the 70/30 recipe Don uses. I'm not particularly sensitive to flavor, but I don't like harsh juices with heavy overtones or throat hit. I'm on my second order of 30ml each of 555 and Malty Toffee. I'd like to see a little more toffee flavor, but for the present, I'm a fan. I'm one of those who find most all juices a little weak on flavor.
I haven't found Lorran flavors locally. The nearest Hobby Lobby is in a small town 20 miles away. I just ordered about 10 Lorran candy oil flavors (PG based) to try. Not all of us have the sensitivity of smell or taste to be a wine taster (or juice reviewer), so there will always be different opinions.
I haven't found Lorran flavors locally. The nearest Hobby Lobby is in a small town 20 miles away. I just ordered about 10 Lorran candy oil flavors (PG based) to try. Not all of us have the sensitivity of smell or taste to be a wine taster (or juice reviewer), so there will always be different opinions.
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good stuff Dave I personally believe BWB juice focuses more on performance than flavor. I particularly have a bias towards 555 as it's right now my go to vape, which actually is surprising. I do though on occasion enjoy a flavorful juice, anybody have any opinions on where they like to go for those types of juices? I wouldn't want to lose too much in the viscosity/performance area though. I hear Mrs. T's maybe?
I was cruising the aisles of wal-mart not too long ago and found loranns flavoring for sale there in the craft section. It actually seemed like it didn't belong there I would have figured maybe baking but it wasnt. I believe 2-1dram bottles for 2 bucks. There weren't a huge amount of flavor choices but enough where if I wanted to test my DIY skills it would do the trick. I also remember hearing that you can also find VG at wal-mart too but in my neck of the woods anyway there isn't. I asked the pharmacist where I could find it and she looked at me like I had 5 heads!! The reason I say this is because you said the nearest hobby lobby was 20 miles away from you, Now a days it seems like there is a wally world on every corner.
I was cruising the aisles of wal-mart not too long ago and found loranns flavoring for sale there in the craft section. It actually seemed like it didn't belong there I would have figured maybe baking but it wasnt. I believe 2-1dram bottles for 2 bucks. There weren't a huge amount of flavor choices but enough where if I wanted to test my DIY skills it would do the trick. I also remember hearing that you can also find VG at wal-mart too but in my neck of the woods anyway there isn't. I asked the pharmacist where I could find it and she looked at me like I had 5 heads!! The reason I say this is because you said the nearest hobby lobby was 20 miles away from you, Now a days it seems like there is a wally world on every corner.
seriously, Guitardenmark, you do seem to hate on BWB... I've noticed for a little while.
I do think it's important to inform noobs that it's a vape that isn't wicked flavorful like a TV,VB or MS T's... but you you tend to characterize it as poorly performing liquid more than you do as liquid that you don't like.
I absolutely hate the liquid of a few vendors you like... but that doesn't make it bad liquid... it's preference really...
anyway, maybe you should try it again... I don't get the "no throat hit" comments
I do think it's important to inform noobs that it's a vape that isn't wicked flavorful like a TV,VB or MS T's... but you you tend to characterize it as poorly performing liquid more than you do as liquid that you don't like.
I absolutely hate the liquid of a few vendors you like... but that doesn't make it bad liquid... it's preference really...
anyway, maybe you should try it again... I don't get the "no throat hit" comments
"I would have to say backwoods brew (not to my personal liking) and freedomsmokeusa are probably the two most popular vendors on this forum. "
"The top juice vendors IMO are:
Ms T's Bakery Essentials (not the greatest fruits IMO)
FreedomSmokeUSA (stay away from anything other than tobacco and fruits. They use diacetyl)
Vaperite (their organic line is their best juice)
Backwoods Brew (not a lot of flavor and weak throat hit but very popular for tobacco flavors)
www.tastyvapor.com (tons of flavor and some great juices. No small sizes though) "
Those are just a couple quotes from me referring noobs to juice vendors. Notice I always preface the BWB suggestion with weak flavor. All I'm trying to do is provide people with are more honest perspective of BWB juice, which has not IMO been provided yet. I see about 10X the reviews for backwoods brew than I do for any other vendor. That to me, means that it is a good juice that people like. HOWEVER, all too often people "forget" to mention the weak flavor of BWB which is significantly less flavor than any of the 30+ other vendors I have tried. I wasted a good chunk of change because I bought into all the hype and was very dissatisfied. I read A TON of reviews on BWB and never once saw anyone say the flavor is as weak as it is. I wish somone would have said what I'm saying so I wouldn't have wasted all the money I did. Honestly my expectations were so high of BWB (due to reading reviews) that when I got the juice I was more dissapointed than any other time since I started vaping. Needless to say, whenever i see a review that doesn't quite point out the fact that the flavor is so weak, I mention it. I'm not bashing anyone or flaming threads...
BTW if your interested I would like to sell my 3 remaining. I have NOT been able to sell these
dulce de luche
waffle
pumpkin spice
"The top juice vendors IMO are:
Ms T's Bakery Essentials (not the greatest fruits IMO)
FreedomSmokeUSA (stay away from anything other than tobacco and fruits. They use diacetyl)
Vaperite (their organic line is their best juice)
Backwoods Brew (not a lot of flavor and weak throat hit but very popular for tobacco flavors)
www.tastyvapor.com (tons of flavor and some great juices. No small sizes though) "
Those are just a couple quotes from me referring noobs to juice vendors. Notice I always preface the BWB suggestion with weak flavor. All I'm trying to do is provide people with are more honest perspective of BWB juice, which has not IMO been provided yet. I see about 10X the reviews for backwoods brew than I do for any other vendor. That to me, means that it is a good juice that people like. HOWEVER, all too often people "forget" to mention the weak flavor of BWB which is significantly less flavor than any of the 30+ other vendors I have tried. I wasted a good chunk of change because I bought into all the hype and was very dissatisfied. I read A TON of reviews on BWB and never once saw anyone say the flavor is as weak as it is. I wish somone would have said what I'm saying so I wouldn't have wasted all the money I did. Honestly my expectations were so high of BWB (due to reading reviews) that when I got the juice I was more dissapointed than any other time since I started vaping. Needless to say, whenever i see a review that doesn't quite point out the fact that the flavor is so weak, I mention it. I'm not bashing anyone or flaming threads...
BTW if your interested I would like to sell my 3 remaining. I have NOT been able to sell these
dulce de luche
waffle
pumpkin spice
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I've read and heard "subtle flavor" many many times when reading/watching BWB reviews.
"Malty toffe is an amazing flavor with subtle toffe undertones" is an example of things that I frequently see. As Tango can probably attest I read every single BWB review i see and have for awhile. I NEVER see anyone say the flavors are very weak. NEVER.
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from Websters Dictionary:
weak:--Wanting in physical strength; "a weak pillar".[Wordnet]
--Overly diluted; thin and insipid; "weak tea".[Wordnet]
subtle: Characterized by refinement and niceness in drawing distinctions; nicely discriminating
Cunningly devised; crafty
I certainly cannot describe BWB juice as overly diluted, thin or insipid. I'll stick with "subtle"
weak:--Wanting in physical strength; "a weak pillar".[Wordnet]
--Overly diluted; thin and insipid; "weak tea".[Wordnet]
subtle: Characterized by refinement and niceness in drawing distinctions; nicely discriminating
Cunningly devised; crafty
I certainly cannot describe BWB juice as overly diluted, thin or insipid. I'll stick with "subtle"
Without me looking up any definitions.. isn't weak flavor and subtle flavor pretty much the same thing?
its ok FreeFlow I did it for ya already. You were probably typing yours while i was typing mine
So mark has about 50 bottles up for sale in the classifieds...makes me think he doesn't like much & just has a vendetta against the brand.
Play innocent & claim you are just warning the newcomers, but your aggressive comments & obvious disdain for the BWB community is evident in every post.
I wish you would go find another vendor to pick on, because we are sick you.
Play innocent & claim you are just warning the newcomers, but your aggressive comments & obvious disdain for the BWB community is evident in every post.
I wish you would go find another vendor to pick on, because we are sick you.
Pretty much but saying something like "Malty toffe is an amazing flavor with subtle toffe undertones" is decieving because all that person is really saying is the toffee is subtle, not the whole juice. It's like their afraid to say the juice doesn't have a lot of flavor...
This forum is here so people can discuss their opinions. Just because you don't like my opinions does not mean I'm not being nice. Have you ever seen me post in the BWB fanboy/fangirl thread? NO. If I hated BWB fans so much don't you think I would have posted there? I only care about warning the noob who is going to spend $60 on a juice expecting it to be something only to be disappointed because he read dishonest reviews.
I like most of the bottles I have for sale. They are good juices! Doesn't mean I don't like others more... You would be shocked at how many juices and vendors I have tried. If anything else that should give me credibility...
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sorry mark, a review is not dishonest simply because you disagree with the opinion contained therein. The reviewer has an opinion. And his/her opinion is every bit as valid as yours. And you still haven't figured this part out yet so i'll spell it out for you: no one jumped on your case in your first two posts in this thread where you made VALID CRITICAL REMARKS regarding the JUICE. They (I?) jumped on your case when you started saying things like "I see a lot of BWB loyalists trashing other vendors. Specifically FSUSA". (see post #18 in this thread) and "I can tell you from first hand experience, the most viciously loyal fans are FSUSA fans but BWB fans will stop at nothing to convince everyone else that BWB is the best juice available." (post 19).
Those are not constructive remarks regarding a juice review. Those, as I mentioned before, are a targeted attack at a particular group of people. Not only are these types of comments totally uncalled for, I think most people would agree they are patently untrue! Do we feel strongly about our love of Backwoods Brew? Sure, we do. I think thats clear. But are we dishonest? Are we vicious? Hardly
Those are not constructive remarks regarding a juice review. Those, as I mentioned before, are a targeted attack at a particular group of people. Not only are these types of comments totally uncalled for, I think most people would agree they are patently untrue! Do we feel strongly about our love of Backwoods Brew? Sure, we do. I think thats clear. But are we dishonest? Are we vicious? Hardly
I imagine an expert, like you, has a list if juice reviews of your own for all the newbs to refer to. I, for one, would like the links, so I can go and read YOUR OPINION.
Acting like everyone else's opinion is secondary to yours isn't what a forum is about. If you want to state YOUR OPINION, there is a right & a wrong way to do it. Instead of calling the flavor "weak" you could say that you prefer a product with stronger flavoring. Using the subjective term of "weak" may give the newbs the wrong impression. I think some other vendors flavoring is too strong. Directing them away by using a negative adjective isn't cool at all.
Many of us know of the infamous thread you started when Don wouldn't give you your money back. You had the thread closed & said you were going to let it go.
Why all of this then?
Acting like everyone else's opinion is secondary to yours isn't what a forum is about. If you want to state YOUR OPINION, there is a right & a wrong way to do it. Instead of calling the flavor "weak" you could say that you prefer a product with stronger flavoring. Using the subjective term of "weak" may give the newbs the wrong impression. I think some other vendors flavoring is too strong. Directing them away by using a negative adjective isn't cool at all.
Many of us know of the infamous thread you started when Don wouldn't give you your money back. You had the thread closed & said you were going to let it go.
Why all of this then?
Good point. I will watch out for that and refrain from those type of remarks. I was not trying to be offensive but those comments came off more aggressive than what I was intending to be.
Omission of an extremely valid component of a juice is still deceptive to me. It would have saved me a lot of money if someone would have said. "The flavor is very weak with these juices."
When I call the juice weak, I'm comparing it to other vendor's juice, not my own tastes. Granted I prefer the other vendors higher flavor but saying a flavor is weak COMPARED to other vendors is not subjective.
Of all the juice reviews I see I would say BWB is definitely the most mis-respresented juice. I haven't tried kick bass yet but I've heard some ridiculously good things.
LOL the thread I started had nothing to do with Don giving me money back. If you would have actually read the thread you would have realized that.
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Dude, let it go. I was on the FSUSA bandwagon before trying BWB so I think it's safe to say I liked FSUSA but jumped ship when I found a better juice. It's just better - to me. And NOT weak in comparison, at all. Period. So when I say that, am I "wrong"? Am I misrepresenting something, or am I stating my opinion? Why can't you let others have their own opinion when it comes to this vendor?
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