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So a regular 510 should be fine? Sorry but I'm very new to this and I suck with electricity. Should I buy some HV atties?

If you are speaking about the eGo yes a regular atty is fine, but HV for anything at 6V and XHV for anything higher e.g using 3.7V batteries in series for 7V.
 

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well said! after the LR 306 atty, I can't even go back to the LR 510's on the eGo. Although I'm sure using the LR 306 attys are killing my batteries faster too. I got some HV 510 attys coming in a week or two for the box mod and the Ali'i. Iken's carto's work really nice on the boxmod though too, but I still get the occasional filler burnt taste with them :(
... and you will. I have been testing for Isaac and have experience the same with my RY4 but not my blackberry Menthol. I believe certain flavours will denote this more than others. However, the ones I have used did not show signs (autopsy) of scorching of neither the sleeve or the batting, they simply are too hot for some liquid. What I did find out is that after a couple of days the carto became seasoned and do better on the 5V box, but fresh out of the pack and they are just too harsh, even though they are marketed for 5-6V
 

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That would indeed be correct. Yes we use them on the eGo, but no we shouldn't. The 650mAh bat delivers 0.65A current and a 1.5 LR atty draws 2A at 3.1V more than 3 times what the battery is capable of delivering. The 900mAh batt would be a marginally better choice. The minimum battery to be used for LR applications is a 14500 IMR batt which has a current rating of 4A

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ikenvape/118964-switcheds-battery-faq.htmlThe battery can handle it but is stressed in doing so = shorter overall battery life e.g it will die at 20 vs 60

Hmmm...this is interesting information, I had 2 20 day old Riva batts die back to back using an LR atty....I'm pretty sure the atty itself was faulty, but I stopped using LRs on the eGos or Rivas because I was concerned with ruining more batts. I reserve the LRs for the ProV.
 

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Its like gambling you may have a 5mth winning spree or loose it all in a moment you just don't know. I myself choose not to make the gamble I would rather play it safe. Same goes for my 5V PT would never plug that into my computer and wouldn't recommend it to anyone else not worth the gamble of blowing a port or worse yet my computer. Talked to a noob one day that had blown 2 ports in 24 hrs and was plugging it into her 3rd one. While others get away with it everyday, its all a gamble.
 

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... and hence the problem. I didn't say you can't and don't I said you shouldn't. Many more versed individuals will back up this statement.

yea not trying to contradict you or anything, just sharing what i've experienced using LR atty's on eGo's
 

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yea not trying to contradict you or anything, just sharing what i've experienced using LR atty's on eGo's

Same here my good man. I'm just stating facts that were overlooked in the past and rumours (to use the eGo batt) that spread like wild fires. It takes time for problems to surface, but they will and that is all I am trying to convey to our community.
 

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Just for the record my eGo batteries seem to have recovered from LR vaping. Charging takes 2.5-4 hours now which is close to normal. I suspect the hardware we own differs wildly, no QA, no way to guess how yours will perform under stress.

Your batteries do not recover from rock content. Rock content is depleted LI Ion, has no longer any capacity to accept a charge.

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Your batteries do not recover from rock content. Rock content is depleted LI Ion, has no longer any capacity to accept a charge.

They charged three times longer two days into LR vaping, now that I'm back to cartos they are almost back to normal, why would I lie? The charge lasts as long as before the LR experiments. Maybe it was not rocks but some dense liquids, how do you know? ;)
 

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Whatever guys makes you happy, but beware your conclusions are not science, just random observations of randomly produced hardware. But I shall be silent from now on in this regard.

Ah my good man. The conclusions posted were not mere observations but scientific data from the links provided. Whilst your observation wrt a battery recovering from a LR romp pure conjecture. A three day romp may not necessarily mean you will kill your battery, continued use in a stressful situation will. Wrt charging times, are you sure you did not mistakenly use your 510 charger on your wall adapter by accident? My charging times both at the USB and wall are 2-2.5 hrs from a dead battery, using the faster charger. The 510 charger on the other hand would indeed increase charging time as described.
 

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... and you will. I have been testing for Isaac and have experience the same with my RY4 but not my blackberry Menthol. I believe certain flavours will denote this more than others. However, the ones I have used did not show signs (autopsy) of scorching of neither the sleeve or the batting, they simply are too hot for some liquid. What I did find out is that after a couple of days the carto became seasoned and do better on the 5V box, but fresh out of the pack and they are just too harsh, even though they are marketed for 5-6V

How do you clean your carto's out when switching flavours? I believe Issac told me all I need to do is to wash it out with hot water and dry really really well. I should probably try different juices then.... I actually liked the way it was out of the box with the waffle flavour I had, but after washing it out and trying to put in the same juice it just tastes burnt now and doesn't get as warm....
 

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How do you clean your carto's out when switching flavours? I believe Issac told me all I need to do is to wash it out with hot water and dry really really well. I should probably try different juices then.... I actually liked the way it was out of the box with the waffle flavour I had, but after washing it out and trying to put in the same juice it just tastes burnt now and doesn't get as warm....

Fit,

As with my attys I simply don't. Folks are trying to be frugal and I am as frugal as the rest, heck just look at the BeGo, now that is extremely frugal.

I have found as you that once washed they never come back to where they were fresh out of the box, even with the same liquid. When they quit performing I simply toss them. I am still vaping some that I went to TO with, some are starting to taste stale and will be tossed instead of refilling them, once empty.

I do not vape my cartos at HV, with the exception of Beta testing Isaac's line. Because I do not vape the same carto day in and day out (except when testing), I change flavours. I would definitely place their life expectancy between 2-3 weeks, which IMHO is more than enough for something that is supposed to be used once.

As you know, all the gear I buy is carefully calculated. I take time to await for feedback and then take the plunge. I am extremely critical wrt performance, gear has to perform out ot the box, and must be well built. e.g the use of 3A switches vice 0.5A switches we see floating around. A device or carto may work fresh out of the gate, but how does it perform in the stretch. This is what I place my decisions on.

So for me, $0.07/day on average for a carto is money well spent. Did you know that the average individual spends on average $5-7/day on Timmy's? Just skipping a large dble-dble/day buys a lot of cartos :)
 

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Fit,

As with my attys I simply don't. Folks are trying to be frugal and I am as frugal as the rest, heck just look at the BeGo, now that is extremely frugal.

I have found as you that once washed they never come back to where they were fresh out of the box, even with the same liquid. When they quit performing I simply toss them. I am still vaping some that I went to TO with, some are starting to taste stale and will be tossed instead of refilling them, once empty.

I do not vape my cartos at HV, with the exception of Beta testing Isaac's line. Because I do not vape the same carto day in and day out (except when testing), I change flavours. I would definitely place their life expectancy between 2-3 weeks, which IMHO is more than enough for something that is supposed to be used once.

As you know, all the gear I buy is carefully calculated. I take time to await for feedback and then take the plunge. I am extremely critical wrt performance, gear has to perform out ot the box, and must be well built. e.g the use of 3A switches vice 0.5A switches we see floating around. A device or carto may work fresh out of the gate, but how does it perform in the stretch. This is what I place my decisions on.

So for me, $0.07/day on average for a carto is money well spent. Did you know that the average individual spends on average $5-7/day on Timmy's? Just skipping a large dble-dble/day buys a lot of cartos :)

It's funny you mentioned timmies.. when I smoked I would buy timmies A LOT more often. I don't anymore... weird...

I hear what you're saying.. I haven't really cleaned out my attys, and they're still performing fine... as far as carto's go they're a bit more frustrating... I think I may try and see how they perform at 3.7V wants I get my Ali'i in... and instead of feeding juice from the bottom I'll just fill a carto up normally and test it out on the different voltages.
 

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Honey Flue is good at any wattage :p

I can't wait to try it with the Ali'i. It's A BIT harsh at 5V with the regular 510 atty, but I'm probably used to it on just a regular eGo battery with LR atty.

Pumping 9 watts it would be :) Now you see the delta between 5V and simulated 5V using LRs
 
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