bad atomizer

[funkybozu]

ive just run into 2 attys that just don't work very well
its not that they don't work. if i drip on them then they produces a good amount of vapor, but if i use a cart then it seems that they don't draw any juice so practically no vapor.......

its not much of a problam when im sitting at my desk in front of the computer but, its a real pain when im outside or driving,


hs anyone encontered this problam? anyway to counter it?

 

[bearscreek]

I wish I knew. It seems like this past week or 2 my atomizers don't want to wick very well. I've really usually used just 1 atomizer at a time (the first one went for over 2 months), but I currently have 4 I'm fooling with. The mesh seems to be a little different shape than the first 1 or 2 I used. Maybe that could be it. These 4 are probably from the same shipment/seller. Maybe I should try one from another "lot." Sorry I can't really help you with anything besides moral support or empathy.

 

[funkybozu]

it does seem that there are lots that dont work very well ?

 

[kinabaloo]

funky - use a q-tip to measure the depth of the top of the metal bridge; compare with a good atomizer.

funky and bears - wash and dry the cart filler.

bears - wash out and dry the atty. Then add 5 or 6 drops before trying with a cart.

funky and bears - try pulling up the cart filler a little after filling, before reconnecting with the atty. Try adding a cut section of hollow q-tip tube at the side of the cart (each end cut at an angle); there is a thread on this called 'The Straw mod'.

 

[funkybozu]

ill have to try the straw mod again, the first time didnt work so wel for me

great idea to measure the depth. gonna do that right away, thanks man

 

[Laredo7mm]

... but if i use a cart then it seems that they don't draw any juice so practically no vapor....

Thant is why I stopped using carts and just drip.

I went for weeks with no issues using carts, and then all of a sudden, no vaper. I tried brand new carts, grinding down the length of the atty so the bridge made good contact with the batting, different cart filler materials, no luck.

 

[bearscreek]

But don't you find that dripping is harder on the atomizers?

 

[breakfastchef]

But don't you find that dripping is harder on the atomizers?

Dripping is fine on an atomizer. The key is to not flood the atomizer with too much liquid (gurgling sound) and not to drip onto a hot atomizer. Drippng is awful if you use automatic batteries. That is why most any dripper recommends a manual device with a battery sealed from the atomizer.

 

[bearscreek]

Well, I know that plenty of people do it. It just seems that some of the suppliers seem to say not to (the ones I've noticed).

 

[funkybozu]

what i noticed ,
i measured the not good attys Vs a good one. weird the bridge top is at the same hight
but the coil is farther down on the attys that dont work well..........
there is nly about a mm or 2 differeance in the size diff but it seems its enough to make it not work

 

[kinabaloo]

what i noticed ,
i measured the not good attys Vs a good one. weird the bridge top is at the same hight
but the coil is farther down on the attys that dont work well..........
there is nly about a mm or 2 differeance in the size diff but it seems its enough to make it not work

How can you tell the coils are further down?

Is this not simply because they are a different design?

 

[breakfastchef]

Well, I know that plenty of people do it. It just seems that some of the suppliers seem to say not to (the ones I've noticed).

For the reasons I posted earlier, suppliers do not want problems, so they recommend against dripping. Dripping with an automatic battery is a bad idea. If the battery fouls within a warranty period, a supplier generally feels compelled to replace the battery even if it is user error. The same applies to atomizer coils breaking. If you drip on a hot coil and it breaks within a warranty period, the supplier will replace it.

 

[bearscreek]

That makes perfect sense, but for some reason I'm thinking I also read it on Johnson Creek's site, and they really shouldn't care one way or the other.

 

[funkybozu]

How can you tell the coils are further down?

Is this not simply because they are a different design?

i mesured it with your qtip idea

i found a way that seems to work. i took somew of that wierd metal wool from
a broken atty and added it to the side of the brigde
its not perfect but it does drain the cartridge now

 

[funkybozu]

well it wasnt bad attys at all that was messing up my vape, was the carts, the juice just stayed trapped in them, i posted in the cart mod forum a way to counter that problam

 

[kinabaloo]

That makes perfect sense, but for some reason I'm thinking I also read it on Johnson Creek's site, and they really shouldn't care one way or the other.

Might be not wwanting to fall out with certain hardware providers. Or the fact that carts waste a fair bit of juice so one needs to replenish more often.

 

[framitz]

The supplier I use actually tells you how to drip on their site, and they have a 180 day warranty.

 

[Shaik Corso]

When mine start to not wick very well, have poor vapor, draw hard, etc I give them a good washing with alcohol and they are usually like new after. Usually the alcohol comes out brown. I think maybe old juice starts to foul up the mesh and prevents wicking to some extent.

I orginally tried to was them with water, but all that did was make them fry no matter how long I let them dry out for (this included a few drops of fresh juice on the coil before using).

 

[Shadowdr]

When mine start to not wick very well, have poor vapor, draw hard, etc I give them a good washing with alcohol and they are usually like new after. Usually the alcohol comes out brown. I think maybe old juice starts to foul up the mesh and prevents wicking to some extent.

I orginally tried to was them with water, but all that did was make them fry no matter how long I let them dry out for (this included a few drops of fresh juice on the coil before using).

Good advice, I have no real proof yet but I have been using PGA exclusively for over a month and it works well on all my attys. When my old 4081 starts loosing it's smoke I add two drops of alcohol without a cart and take a few puffs, then I do a 10 count burn without puffing. drip two drops of juice back on the bridge and she is as good as new. After several days I will drip two drops into atty, and using a blank cart vape for awhile. It has almost as much in the mesh as in a cart and vapes as good. The juice seems to get goey inside and the PGA acts like a thinner and smokes it clean.

 

[jj2]

I got an atomizer that is acting funky. It's my first so it got the workout as I learned.
Actually until I followed someones advice to clean in soda, it was doing fine. Afterwards it just wasn't the same and had to drip to get it too put out good vapor. Then it got really touchy. I followed some other advice and let it sock in alcohol and then boiled it for a minute in distilled water.
After letting it dry for a day, I screwed it into a battery and took a drag. The battery was a different version of the same model and the atty worked right off. I was actually impressed because the atty's that come with it I've had to inhale hard to get a decent vape.
Anyway, after about three drags the light on the battery stayed on and the atty started to smoke. I unscrewed immediately.
Anyone have an idea?
I'm sure I can't use it in the auto setup but I'm building a direct plugin with a 3V Wall Wart type thing with a on and off button. Do you think it will be safe to use?
Probably give it a try and see and hope it lasts but I'd like some opinions.