bad experience while vaping out and about

[jeannest]

I've already been vaping outside and had some people start having one of those "fake coughing fits" that non-smokers do when they see someone smoking. I only vape where smoking is allowed. If people see vapor, they think it's smoke, and they complain. Not everyone, but there is always an uninformed jerk around. The most I'll do is a quick stealth vape in a restroom if I need a hit. Many places, like my college campus, have banned the use of ecigs. Maybe someday this will change as people and businesses become more informed, but right now I just keep a low profile. Also, remember that some juices leave an odor in the area that may be unpleasant to some people.

 

[cigarbabe]

Those who are inclined to "fake cough" will also be inclined to claim it's "second hand vapor, it smells terrible or it's not safe for the children!" which is why I vape openly and refuse to act like I'm doing something wrong.
I don't mind a little confrontation to correct a wrong or misinformed person and vaping is the one thing I can be pro active about.
What happened to our right to enjoy life, liberty and vaping?
Is it trumped by those who will always be against anything enjoyable?
C.B.

 

[hottierockstar]

some ppl have surprised me.
i haven't vaped in the salon (or anywhere really) because i don't want to freak ppl out, don't have the time to explain it, and i really don't think it is professional (i wouldn't eat, smoke, or make a personal phone call on the floor so why should vaping be different?)
one of my biggest anti-smoking co-workers/friends said "just vape in here" LOL


edit: i for sure have the time to explain it when i am not working

 

[BostonVape]

I've already been vaping outside and had some people start having one of those "fake coughing fits" that non-smokers do when they see someone smoking. I only vape where smoking is allowed. If people see vapor, they think it's smoke, and they complain. Not everyone, but there is always an uninformed jerk around. The most I'll do is a quick stealth vape in a restroom if I need a hit. Many places, like my college campus, have banned the use of ecigs. Maybe someday this will change as people and businesses become more informed, but right now I just keep a low profile. Also, remember that some juices leave an odor in the area that may be unpleasant to some people.

As I've seen on other posts the best comparison to the vape smell is someone wearing way too much perfume/cologne - that person smells WAY worse than us vaping but it's ok for them to stink up half the office.

the smell is barely noticeable and I would get more flack from cooking something gross in the breakroom compared to the 'french vanilla' mist that people smell.

People in my work love the smell and I get compliments all the time. (I work in a very big corporate insurance company so you would actually think the opposite) but I also don't make it too public when I do it, just blow it under my desk.

 

[StereoDreamer]

Of course, there's the argument that it's not smoke, it's not illegal (in some places) and I have a right to vape whenever/wherever I want to.

Well it's not illegal to fart, curse or scratch my...eh...whatever, either. But, as an adult I know when and where to "exercise my rights".

It ain't as big a deal as we choose to make it.

Do you feel the same about people wearing religious emblems, or the books they read in public, or insisting that people don't unreasonably search their personal effects, if such activities might "cause a scene"?

Because a Right not exercised is a right you don't really have...

 

[StereoDreamer]

I only vape where smoking is allowed.

I'm not sure where this mentality that government has the ability to tell us what we CAN do, comes from. This is a lie, and needs to be stomped out.

In the US, our legal system is based on a concept called "proscriptive law". Goverment can only tell you what you CANNOT do.

They can tell you where and when you CANNOT smoke.

They do not have the authority or the ability to tell you where you CAN do something, because as a creature with free will, you can do anything you want anywhere and any time you want. This is a simple, irrefutable fact.

Granted, doing certain things in certain places may not be good idea (having sex on a motorcycle while driving in traffic, for instance) because of common decency or public safety concerns.

But since vaping is neither obscene, a health or safety hazard to others, or prohibited by law in most places, it is generally legal to do just about anywhere.

Vaping anywhere there is not an explicit ban on vaping in the law or statutes is 100% legal.

On private property, the owners (or their official, legal representatives) can make up their own codes of conduct and can prohibit or restrict activities that are, under the law perfectly legal, just because they want to. For instance, in mny states, concealed carry of a firearm is 100% legal in private businesses if the person has a valid permit, but the owners of most shopping malls (being for the most part, European Real Estate Development corporations, and therefore loathe to the idea that individual citizens have ANY right to personal self defense) prohibit carrying ANY weapons no matter how legal such carry is. And they have the legal right to do that. (although the MORAL right to do such a thing is very easy to disprove)...

Stealth vaping marginalizes vaping. It makes it look like you are trying to hide something that is wrong. This reinforces the public's ill-informed ideas that vaping is smoking.

If vaping is not disallowed by law or statute, and the private property owner does not have an official posted policy against vaping, then it is 100% legal to do in a given venue.

Vape Openly. It is the only way to "normalize" this activity, and the BEST way to engage and educate people as to what vaping really is, and to the fact that it is, in fact, legal in most places.

 

[wv2win]

I respectfully disagree. At the VA yesterday, someone saw me, and said, "You are Vaping!!! My wife does that." Note that he did not comment on the equipment, but on the action.

How can you disagree?? It was his wife, a person who vapes, who provided him with a positive understanding of vaping. But my main point is/was, if we vapers act like vaping is dangerours to others, then that is the perception that will be reenforced.

 

[hvac999]

That upsets me when I hear things like that. People need to realize that vaping IS a MUCH safer alternative to smoking.

 

[SissySpike]

Last year I was working on a waste water construction project. In Tuscon AZ. During the construction of the plant they implemented a no smoking and vaping policy. I flat out refused to follow their regulations. I challenged them openly and after a few days they gave up. I simply said each time I was confronted that I do not recognize your authority to tell me what I can and cant do. The men working around have no complaints. My Project is ahead of scheduled, under budget, and no accidents or injury's. If you want to build this your self you can run me off if not leave me a loan!
I vaped un till they day I left and I got a glowing recognition letter from the Superintendent of the project.

 

[chrisrook]

I personally do not vape in open public areas. I have many people who come into the store I work in and vape, as well as a few co-workers who vape on the clock. Not a single manager has confronted anyone, customer or employee. I vape in my home, in my car, and in a secluded place if out in public. It's not that I don't want to get caught vaping, it's that I respect others beliefs. The only thing I have ever done to another vaper was go up to them, while at work, and told them that I personally prefer fruit flavored scents in my area of the store and that they flavor they are vaping smells amazing and please continue so that my section smells great.

 

[wv2win]

I personally do not vape in open public areas................. It's not that I don't want to get caught vaping, it's that I respect others beliefs.............

A more accurate conclusion is that you "respect other's ignorance".

Will it be a positive outcome in the long run, if we allow their ignorance to govern what we do?

 

[hottierockstar]

Do you feel the same about people wearing religious emblems, or the books they read in public, or insisting that people don't unreasonably search their personal effects, if such activities might "cause a scene"?

Because a Right not exercised is a right you don't really have...

totally not the same....there is a difference between being considerate and having the *right*...

i really don't even know where you got religious emblems, books, searching, or causing a scene out of someone not farting or grabbing/scratching their junk...or vaping LOL

i didn't smoke in open public places because i am selfish and wanted to exercise my right to enjoy what i was doing without having to explain or hear how bad it was....same with vaping at this point. (which i have had more than one person in a week say "that is worse for you than smoking!!!!")
you cannot educate those that WANT to remain ignorant.....

i don't like being told what to do/not do by anyone/thing...i try to respect a person's personal choice to participate in their activities, their way..for their reasons

just sayin'

 

[EddardinWinter]

Well, you have to respect the property owner's stance on vaping. When I try a new restaurant, I ask before I am seated if it is permitted. Many places have permitted me to vape. Once I have the permission from the owner, my right to vape is non-negotiable. I vape in my office at work, but not in any other places in the building. I have the company owner's blessing to vape. I have had some words with a couple of co-workers, but I also have two converts at work and they vape in their offices now, too. The owner is grateful to me for getting two of his workers of the analogs. I am not inclined to stealth vape. I will either do it, or I will not. If it is not permitted, I need to abstain. If it is, why should I hide it?

I understand not everyone works in a vape friendly office and cannot just change jobs. If I was in that situation I am not sure what I would do. I suppose I might stealth vape if that were the situation where I worked every day. When I am with a client or working in a building somewhere, I don't vape. Sometimes that means 5 or 6 hour stretches without vaping. While that sucks, I am not going to put a customer or peer out with my habit. I just look forward to the ride home, or whatever, where I can crush some vapor.

 

[mkbilbo]

Well my wife and some gf's go out once a week and play bingo at the legion and most of them vape. Well this has been going on for a few months with no problems untill last night some guy who works there or is on the board or whatever was really rude and nasty with them about there e cigs. He told them they couldnt do it there and was very rude about it, but said if it was municipal it was ok. My wife tried to explain that it was just vapor and nothing harmfull to anyone but he was a ..... and didnt want to hear it.

Ooof. Reminds me of somewhere on the web I saw an article about e-cigs and one of the, of course, very first comments was one made entirely of shrieking about how horrible vaping is and how somebody's vapor gave them terrible nausea and headaches and it all ought to be banned and... and... and...

I just closed the browser window and moved on. I was tempted to quote their comments about getting nausea and headaches and following with one word:

"Liar".

 

[chrisrook]

A more accurate conclusion is that you "respect other's ignorance".

Will it be a positive outcome in the long run, if we allow their ignorance to govern what we do?

There is no cure for ignorance, all you can do is educate them and hope for the best. I tend to be a very respectful person until someone disrespects me. My dad is retired Navy and was pushed to show respect. When raising his kids, he forced the same idea onto us. Anytime I meet someone new, unless we met in disrespect, I give my utmost respect. If at any point in our encounter you try to pull away any respect, all is pulled from me. I have had multiple car crashes, and if the other person involved is respectful, everything goes smoothly. If not, it tends to turn into a shouting match where I have made 6' tall men hide in their car until the cops come, and i'm only 5'6". So, no. It's not the ignorance I respect, it's their beliefs and respect.

 

[chefdude2000]

I work with someone and she insists that vaping shouldn't be done in public as "it looks like smoke". Well NO KIDDING...the whole fact that it's helped me and millions of other quit a disgusting and killer habit has no weight.

It's so sad to see so many uniformed people refuse to listen to the facts.

We will have our days soon

 

[mkbilbo]

I work with someone and she insists that vaping shouldn't be done in public as "it looks like smoke". Well NO KIDDING...the whole fact that it's helped me and millions of other quit a disgusting and killer habit has no weight.

It's so sad to see so many uniformed people refuse to listen to the facts.

We will have our days soon

So... she thinks if she sees something that looks like something that'll do... erm... what exactly to her?

(People are so weird)