no idea, but doubtful. that would be a separate research project for you.
YOu might consider asking a compounding pharmacist. They are very good at understanding chemistry in pharmacologic terms.
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no idea, but doubtful. that would be a separate research project for you.
YOu might consider asking a compounding pharmacist. They are very good at understanding chemistry in pharmacologic terms.
The same way people with peanut butter allergies do. It doesn't affect them at all.
BUt if they are around peanut butter, or injest it, they go into anaphalactic shock and for that reason, carry an epi pen to save their lives.
I am rather startled at the total lack of understanding of histological responses to ingredients ...... by being defensive about vaping it's almost like some of you have tossed science to the curb.
Look: People's responses to things are real. they may or may not be related to vaping. But they are real and deserve respect and attention and certainly a solution.
NOT ONE PERSON HERE can debate that someone "could be" highly allergic to vaporized PG. Unless you are a board certified immunologist or allergist.
I've seen allergies to the most simple things. Even "organic stuff'. I jsut got complete testing and of all things, am highly allergic to lavender essential oil. As well as tea tree. Not stuff you wuld think.
Allergies to mint are very common, who would think? So you are blowing peppermint vapor into the air around someone with a high level mint allergy? Yes, it makes them sick.
back in 2012 when I started here I vaped something iwth that cinnamoncide cinnamon whatever compound and my lips blistered, my tongue blistered, and of course, i was "quite concerned" about my lungs after that incident. Yes, things are very specific to individual biological responses. Just because it hasn't happened to you, or to 95% of you, doens't mean it cann't happen.
˄ Well said. From this perspective it seems difficult to comprehend someone with such a severe reaction to vaping, or what’s involved with vaping. But allergies come in many different forms and intensities. Good friend of mine is deathly allergic to pumpkins to the point where she can tell if pumpkin (seed, fruit, spice or oil) is being used by just walking into a restaurant. Just touching her with pumpkin oil on your hands can send her to emergency. She is actually quite calm about it but scares the s*** out of me when ever we are out for a bite
I cant even vape flavours! I cant vape PG! The skin on my forehead literally opens up and weeps clear fluid!The same way people with peanut butter allergies do. It doesn't affect them at all.
BUt if they are around peanut butter, or injest it, they go into anaphalactic shock and for that reason, carry an epi pen to save their lives.
I am rather startled at the total lack of understanding of histological responses to ingredients ...... by being defensive about vaping it's almost like some of you have tossed science to the curb.
Look: People's responses to things are real. they may or may not be related to vaping. But they are real and deserve respect and attention and certainly a solution.
NOT ONE PERSON HERE can debate that someone "could be" highly allergic to vaporized PG. Unless you are a board certified immunologist or allergist.
I've seen allergies to the most simple things. Even "organic stuff'. I jsut got complete testing and of all things, am highly allergic to lavender essential oil. As well as tea tree. Not stuff you wuld think.
Allergies to mint are very common, who would think? So you are blowing peppermint vapor into the air around someone with a high level mint allergy? Yes, it makes them sick.
back in 2012 when I started here I vaped something iwth that cinnamoncide cinnamon whatever compound and my lips blistered, my tongue blistered, and of course, i was "quite concerned" about my lungs after that incident. Yes, things are very specific to individual biological responses. Just because it hasn't happened to you, or to 95% of you, doens't mean it cann't happen.
Ive had to research the carap out of vape juice. Trust me on that.
The amount of anything that a non vaping bystander would be exposed to is incredibly minuscule.
That not even one recorded incidence of people who actually vape have suffered anything like what the OP suggests is interesting to me.
Anti vape click bait would be all over this stuff if even one incidence of it occurred. Convulsions by innocent bystanders sells big time.
Im sorry if I sound without compassion. I just think there is more going on in this thread with the OP than he is letting on.
I know a few people like this, esp. since contacting the Alpha Gal Allergy which I don't have real bad but my doctor says he's had to hospitalized 2 patients recently whose throats were closing up (beginnings of anaphalactic shock) and almost died on the way to the hospital. Some of the people in my Alpha Gal group cannot even feed their own dog anymore, due to having meat product in the feed. I know it's hard to believe, but that's their situation, and I'm on a medical group w/2 board certified allergists who specialize in AG and they have related this is happening to people. My blood levels are so low that I can probably eat a hamburger and only get a little indigestion. For others in my group they could very easily die.
As more and more odd things are introduced into the environment via laboratories synthesized stuff, or even natural stuff, or insect bites, etc. (like in case of AG) anything is possible. I've just seen too much weird stuff in the last few years to discount any of it.
The pumpkin thing therefore does not surprise me at all.
It is incredible how fast allergic reactions happen. Went into Red Lobster one time with the ex wife and before the waitress came back to take our orders the ex's eyes were just about swelled shut. Had to vacate the area and head to the ER, she didn't know she was allergic to shell fish.
Also incredible how fast epi works to relieve the symptoms too.
Also incredible how fast epi works to relieve the symptoms too.
I'd say an allergist should be your next stop, and yes, there are allergies severe enough to cause reactions and some of them can like, develop over time.
For example my MOTHER (IDK why she did this, she was an acupuncturist at the time, all her kids begged her NOT to engage in such foolishness) decided to go for the old "bee sting" therapy which I guess some bee farmer, some where, decided to "monetize" his bee colony more, and some sort of set of vague, nebulous and odd uh, health benefits were claimed from this practice.
Despite my maintain to my mother that her "bee doctor" was a sadist, and that he should be paying HER and not the other way around, well she did go in for "bee sting" therapy (maybe this is the climbing mountains without a rope of alternative medicine practices because I cannot imagine being LESS thrilled to just sort of sit there and let bees sting me and just be all A-OK with it) but as it so happened, well, after bee sting number 40 (if health benefits were yet alleged, I don't remember them) she developed a severe BEE STING allergy and the charlatan, I mean bee professional had to jab her with an epi-pen (I bet that was like, his favorite PART of the therapy probably) and ever since she carries one around in case she gets stung.
So I don't know about the therapy itself, I mean, she's still alive, but has developed a severe and lasting allergy to a common insect, so if it were me, I probably would have demanded my MONEY back since the only health "change" was the possibility of DEATH at outdoor pic nics.
But my point is, yes, you can develop severe and lasting allergies with the right precipitating EVENT and you SHOULD see an allergist but whichever doc you see FIRST, like, GET A DOCTOR'S note. For reals. You can carry it around with you, like my mom does her Epi pen.
Although I am NO way implying that you are in any way responsible for your allergy, unlike my mother. LOL.
I hope you get it sorted out though, it sounds miserable.
Anna
For example my MOTHER (IDK why she did this, she was an acupuncturist at the time, all her kids begged her NOT to engage in such foolishness) decided to go for the old "bee sting" therapy which I guess some bee farmer, some where, decided to "monetize" his bee colony more, and some sort of set of vague, nebulous and odd uh, health benefits were claimed from this practice.
Despite my maintain to my mother that her "bee doctor" was a sadist, and that he should be paying HER and not the other way around, well she did go in for "bee sting" therapy (maybe this is the climbing mountains without a rope of alternative medicine practices because I cannot imagine being LESS thrilled to just sort of sit there and let bees sting me and just be all A-OK with it) but as it so happened, well, after bee sting number 40 (if health benefits were yet alleged, I don't remember them) she developed a severe BEE STING allergy and the charlatan, I mean bee professional had to jab her with an epi-pen (I bet that was like, his favorite PART of the therapy probably) and ever since she carries one around in case she gets stung.
So I don't know about the therapy itself, I mean, she's still alive, but has developed a severe and lasting allergy to a common insect, so if it were me, I probably would have demanded my MONEY back since the only health "change" was the possibility of DEATH at outdoor pic nics.
But my point is, yes, you can develop severe and lasting allergies with the right precipitating EVENT and you SHOULD see an allergist but whichever doc you see FIRST, like, GET A DOCTOR'S note. For reals. You can carry it around with you, like my mom does her Epi pen.
Although I am NO way implying that you are in any way responsible for your allergy, unlike my mother. LOL.
I hope you get it sorted out though, it sounds miserable.
Anna
That is true. Define "miniscule" though.
In the case of Alpha Gal, fumes from somebody cooking a steak on the grill can send them to the ER......and has. Some even react to kissing a person who has recently eaten mammalian meat. This is in the actual medical literature, i.e. doctors who have treated AG sufferers in the ERs.
I can't measure the air around someone vaping. Can you?
It may be a ruse, it may be psychosomatic. I dunno.
that seems to be one of the things that happens with allergies, i.e. that over exposure to certain substances can cause a sensitivation / allgery in people who were not allergic beforehand.
Sounds like that 40th bee sting was the straw that broke camel's back in your mom's case
Yeah, she's a twit. At least she lives in Colorado now, like, I think we have Africanized bees here. LOL.
I have a ton of sympathy when it comes to allergies, my son developed a bunch when we moved here and like, he missed an entire year of school almost (well we homeschooled it) because he had asthma too, and he kept getting these debilitating pneumonias (and migraines). When I finally got him tested he was allergic to 19 things! Things like oh, dust mites, and dust (22 if not counting cats and horses, which I was like, "he can avoid those) but he had so many allergens they didn't fit in one vial, he had to have two. I was sincerely grateful to my insurance company for COVERING the vials, because they were like 1900 bucks every 6 months. And then he had allergy injections for the next 5 years, starting BIWEEKLY but the allergist was all, "Don't bother with this if you can't commit." But, I was sincerely sick of seeing my kiddo like that, so we wound up NEVER missing a shot, and some years, like the first one, where we had a long vacation and he was still visiting the bio dad, that meant finding 4 different allergists in 4 different states and getting "courtesy" visits and carrying around the damn vials in a thermos on ice when we were travelling.
Looking back I have no clue how we accomplished it, but my son's asthma vanished completely, he is on 0 pharmaceutical meds, and has Phelps-like lung function (he used to vape, I saw).
But, untreated, OMG life is miserable. The (sleepy looking) tech said he had allergies and I asked if he got the shots and he was like, "No, I just take allergy meds" was kind convincing because I can't imagine having to go through life like that, it's just horrible.
I hope an allergist can help you. I tend to find them more sympathetic to maybe "not so explicable" symptoms because there really ARE allergies that can be that debilitating, and if you have such an allergy, you need to know. Etc.
I still don't regret that 5 year period but boy was it the suck. My kid did (by necessity) get over his needle phobia though.
Anna
I have a ton of sympathy when it comes to allergies, my son developed a bunch when we moved here and like, he missed an entire year of school almost (well we homeschooled it) because he had asthma too, and he kept getting these debilitating pneumonias (and migraines). When I finally got him tested he was allergic to 19 things! Things like oh, dust mites, and dust (22 if not counting cats and horses, which I was like, "he can avoid those) but he had so many allergens they didn't fit in one vial, he had to have two. I was sincerely grateful to my insurance company for COVERING the vials, because they were like 1900 bucks every 6 months. And then he had allergy injections for the next 5 years, starting BIWEEKLY but the allergist was all, "Don't bother with this if you can't commit." But, I was sincerely sick of seeing my kiddo like that, so we wound up NEVER missing a shot, and some years, like the first one, where we had a long vacation and he was still visiting the bio dad, that meant finding 4 different allergists in 4 different states and getting "courtesy" visits and carrying around the damn vials in a thermos on ice when we were travelling.
Looking back I have no clue how we accomplished it, but my son's asthma vanished completely, he is on 0 pharmaceutical meds, and has Phelps-like lung function (he used to vape, I saw).
But, untreated, OMG life is miserable. The (sleepy looking) tech said he had allergies and I asked if he got the shots and he was like, "No, I just take allergy meds" was kind convincing because I can't imagine having to go through life like that, it's just horrible.
I hope an allergist can help you. I tend to find them more sympathetic to maybe "not so explicable" symptoms because there really ARE allergies that can be that debilitating, and if you have such an allergy, you need to know. Etc.
I still don't regret that 5 year period but boy was it the suck. My kid did (by necessity) get over his needle phobia though.
Anna
You missed my point or I failed to state it clearly, my point was that you told your doctor, a medical professional that you had a violent reaction to vapor. This reaction was so severe it threw you to the ground and caused respiratory difficultly that persisted for days following exposure and his response was good luck with that. That is simply unbelieveable. It would not matter to a doctor what the stimulus was that casused respiratory difficulty. Any doctor worth his diploma would recommend a battery of follow up tests. His response is just unfathomable.
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Shoot, it has got to be somethign outside of vaping. I have been vaping for 4 years and have not had anything liek that.
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