Banning e cigs on campus

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Not sure what section this goes in... my school has banned tobacco and I hear they are working on banning e cigs (This just p*sses me off, it's ....ing ......ed to make me walk off campus and stand on the side of the road with smokers). Anyways does anyone know who I should contact at the school with regards to this and what I should say?
 

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Not sure what section this goes in... my school has banned tobacco and I hear they are working on banning e cigs (This just p*sses me off, it's ....ing ......ed to make me walk off campus and stand on the side of the road with smokers). Anyways does anyone know who I should contact at the school with regards to this and what I should say?

What State is your School in?

And what type of School is it? (HS, CC, State, U. etc)
 

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Student union?

Direct them to CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association .

E-cigs are safe, to individuals and those around them. They are a smoking cessation tool, with a success rate exceeding 30%: 5 times higher than any other method. All the documentation and studies are posted on the site, to support this.

When a School is Involved, Sometimes it is Not a Simple Issue. There can be Many Dynamics which Determine something like a e-Cigarette use Policy.
 

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Try talking to the student government, university president and university medical clinic. In Oklahoma tobacco is banned on all government owned property including universities, thanks Gov. Fallin. E-Cigs are allowed and because of that and a B&M opening in town a lot of smokers have switched to vaping.
 

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Not sure what section this goes in... my school has banned tobacco and I hear they are working on banning e cigs (This just p*sses me off, it's ....ing ......ed to make me walk off campus and stand on the side of the road with smokers). Anyways does anyone know who I should contact at the school with regards to this and what I should say?

See if you can find a copy of the policy issued by the school. Somewhere, someone had to sign it to make it official. Find out who signed the policy and figure out how to contact that official's office. Ask for a meeting. Dress well. Get a haircut and shave. Bring materials. Be reasonable and polite, but make your case that PV's are a safer, cleaner alternative than tobacco smoking and no threat to produce harmful secondhand smoke.
 
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What State is your School in?

And what type of School is it? (HS, CC, State, U. etc)
NC, CC
See if you can find a copy of the policy issued by the school. Somewhere, someone had to sign it to make it official. Find out who signed the policy and figure out how to contact that official's office. Ask for a meeting. Dress well. Get a haircut and shave. Bring materials. Be reasonable and polite, but make your case that PV's are a safer, cleaner alternative than tobacco smoking and no threat to produce harmful secondhand smoke.

Nothing has been put in place yet.
 

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The First thing I would do is Find out if your Community College receives any Extra State and or Federal Funds if they provide a "Tobacco Free" Campus.

If they Do, you will have an all but Impossible Uphill Battle in trying to get Tobacco use Sanctioned on Campus. And a Similar Battle over e-Cigarettes.
 
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Nothing has been put in place yet.

I understand that. What I'm suggesting is that you be proactive rather than reactive. I should have been clearer in my reply. What I meant was that you should find a copy of the no smoking policy and identify the official responsible for it, and go from there.
 

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The First thing I would do is Find out if your Community College receives any Extra State and or Federal Funds if they provide a "Tobacco Free" Campus.

If they Do, you will have an all but Impossible Uphill Battle in trying to get Tobacco use Sanctioned on Campus. And a Similar Battle over e-Cigarettes.

I can't speak to state level issues, but I'm not aware of any federal programs that provide grants or extra funding for compliance with TFCCI. DoE is not one of the agencies I deal with on a regular basis, so I could be wrong.

If you're correct and there is a funding mechanism, then yes... getting over that hill would be darn near impossible.
 

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I can't speak to state level issues, but I'm not aware of any federal programs that provide grants or extra funding for compliance with TFCCI. DoE is not one of the agencies I deal with on a regular basis, so I could be wrong.

If you're correct and there is a funding mechanism, then yes... getting over that hill would be darn near impossible.

Even if the School Doesn't receive any Non-Tobacco funding, the Next Hurdle that the OP will face is Just as Large.

And that is there is No Way for the School to Know or Ensure that what an Individual Puts in an e-Cigarette is ONLY an e-Liquid.

There are other types of Vaporizers out there that Vaporize other Substances (which we Can Not Discuss Openly) besides Nicotine.

You can Show the Dean of Students, Chancellor, or Board of Regents all the Studies you want about e-Liquids, but you will be Asked the Same Question over and over again. One which you will have a Hard Time answering to their Satisfaction.

"How can we have a Reasonable Guarantee that there will be Nothing Else inside an e-Cigarette Besides a Tobacco Product?"

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If I was the OP, I would take an approach that at Least has Some Chance of being taken Seriously.

And that would be to try and get e-Cigarettes allowed in Parking Lots and or Low Traffic Open Air Areas.
 

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Even if the School Doesn't receive any Non-Tobacco funding, the Next Hurdle that the OP will face is Just as Large.

And that is there is No Way for the School to Know or Ensure that what an Individual Puts in an e-Cigarette is ONLY an e-Liquid.

There are other types of Vaporizers out there that Vaporize other Substances (which we Can Not Discuss Openly) besides Nicotine.

You can Show the Dean of Students, Chancellor, or Board of Regents all the Studies you want about e-Liquids, but you will be Asked the Same Question over and over again. One which you will have a Hard Time answering to their Satisfaction.

"How can we have a Reasonable Guarantee that there will be Nothing Else inside an e-Cigarette Besides a Tobacco Product?"

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If I was the OP, I would take an approach that at Least has Some Chance of being taken Seriously.

And that would be to try and get e-Cigarettes allowed in Parking Lots and or Low Traffic Open Air Areas.

The first time I was approached about my battery.. ego style.. the young lady asked if she could see it.. She asked what was in it. I said basically nicotine vg and flavoring. her response.. I guess you could use it for that.

I showed a pic of my SVD on KIK... Told them this is how I kicked the smoking habit.. they all said ohhhhh.. I never thought you could put nicotine in it.

Agree with your post mate.
 

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Screw them.

Find out what the FINE is.

Vape outside away from doorways, or stealth vape inside anyway. Tell them to get ready for a lawsuit if you are vaping outside and get fined. There's no fire hazard so they can't use the "Insurance rate for fire is lower" crap.

And if you get really ticked off, hold a "vape-in" and protest (get permit).
 

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Screw them.

Find out what the FINE is.

Vape outside away from doorways, or stealth vape inside anyway. Tell them to get ready for a lawsuit if you are vaping outside and get fined. There's no fire hazard so they can't use the "Insurance rate for fire is lower" crap.

And if you get really ticked off, hold a "vape-in" and protest (get permit).

I can't speak for the OP's School.

But some Schools will Remove your Active Status as a Student with Repeat Non-Academic Conduct Violations. And this is Bad News if your ever want to Transfer you Units to Another School.

And Kinda a Drag if you are 15 Weeks into a 17 Week Semester.
 

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Unbelievable. We don't ban spraypaint because uncle jerry huffs it out of a bag under the old train bridge every time he goes through pictures of aunt sunsetrose. We don't ban rob shnider movies. We don't even ban those damn long shirts that cover yoga pants? So whats the deal with banning e-cigs?? I don't get it.
 
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