batteries draining faster?

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hottierockstar

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hi :)
my 18490's are draining WAY faster the last few days.
i am not vaping more than usual and am currently at a low-ish voltage (3.6-7) and i switch between my provari and my vamo quite frequently....is something going on internally? is there something i need to do to correct this?
I am getting the blinking light of death in less than half a day and i am not chain vaping.


please don't hurt me for asking if this is a known topic LOL
 

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How old are your batteries. How often do they get charged?

Also, you should try cleaning the internal positive pin inside the ProVari as well as the 510 connection with 91-99% isopropyl alcohol. If there's some kind of build up on the pins, this could be your issue and cleaning them should remedy it.

thanks...i thought it might be a cleaning issue...i'll give it another shot. (cleaned it a few weeks back...maybe not well enough from being chicken?)
two of them are less than/about 2 months old....i have three in total, they are charged as soon as i get the blinking light or i notice the vape is "light"
 

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tommy is right make sure the battery tops, connections and 510 are clean as well.

as well as check the voltage of the batteries right after charging, should be 4.2v
def need to know how old everything is. what kind of charger etc.

i just put a freshy in about 15 minutes ago. it's at 4.2 and i am not currently vaping.
the charger is also about 2 months old...a nitecore I2 (2013 version)

thanks for not bonking me on the head :)
 

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Not all batteries are created equal. Which brand are you using?
The capacity of a li-ion cell diminishes the more you charge/use it.
Most of them are rated at a few hundred cycles. In the time of ~ 2mo, charged twice a day you can easily use up 1/4-1/3(or more) of the life cycles available. As this happens, less and less mAh will be available for use.
An efest 18490 @ 1100mAh is not that much to begin with. That's barely one days charge for most users.

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Heat is also a major factor in the life of these cells.
Storing them at full charge will also decrease capacity over time.
 
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thanks...i thought it might be a cleaning issue...i'll give it another shot. (cleaned it a few weeks back...maybe not well enough from being chicken?)
two of them are less than/about 2 months old....i have three in total, they are charged as soon as i get the blinking light or i notice the vape is "light"
Vaping is light? Btw, do you have LED setting in ON? If yes, blinking light doesn't mean battery is dead, it is just a warning that it is about to go dead but you'll still get plenty of vape from it.
 

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Not all batteries are created equal. Which brand are you using?
The capacity of a li-ion cell diminishes the more you charge/use it.
Most of them are rated at a few hundred cycles. In the time of ~ 2mo, charged twice a day you can easily use up 1/4-1/3(or more) of the life cycles available. As this happens, less and less mAh will be available for use.
An efest 18490 @ 1100mAh is not that much to begin with. That's barely one days charge for most users.
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You must have Efests. Get some aws
Ever since I had a cheapo protected battery (Trustfire) vent in thermal runaway over a year ago, I've used only the red Aw IMR batteries in both my regulated and mechanical APVs. I went against my practice of using only the Aw brand about 2 months ago and purchased some Efest IMR batteries in the 18350 800 mAh and 14500 700 mAh size. Both sizes worked as well as the Aw's initially, but I've noticed in just this short amount of use that I'm getting shorter and shorter time of use with the Efests compared to the Aw's.

I'm using the 18350's in a Mini Provari with standard or high resistance < 4.5 volts. And my daughter uses the 14500's in her AltSmoke BB (standard ohm Protanks). She's only getting a couple of hours use of light vaping with the Efests. I gave her a moderately used Aw 14500 IMR 600 mAh of mine to try and she's getting several hours out of it.

I'm using either a Pila or Xtar WP6 (6 bay) to charge my batteries. My daughter is using a Nitecore Intellicharger i2. I attribute the poorer performance of the Efests to them being lesser quality than Aw. Just my opinion based on my experience. I purchase all of my batteries from RTD, a very reputable online battery vendor. I know there are people who love the Efests, but my experience with them left much to be desired.

I won't be buying any more Efests; their consistancy and performance seems to be all over the board. I might try the Panasonic hybrid/IMRs at some point, but until then I'll stick to the tried and proven Aw brand. They've been extremely consistant for me for over a year.
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Cleaning the 510 connector and the inner battery contacts with alcohol have been mentioned previously. No one has mentioned checking the threads of the battery cap.

These threads are bare metal, and oxidation (basically what rust is) buildup can appear as black gritty material. The battery cap acts as part of the electrical circuit, so if the threading becomes dirty, the electrical conduction can suffer also.

Provape recommends using an anti-oxidant on the threading as part of a routine maintainance. They sell Noaloxx on the website, and it can also be purchased from any hardware store such as Lowes or Home Depot. I found mine in the electrical section.

Apply a small amount (a little goes a long way) to the threads, work it in by twisting the cap back and forth on the Provari. Take off the cap, remove the Noaloxx with a cloth or paper towel and check the appearance of the threads. They should be bright and shiney. If not, repeat the process.

 
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Hey hottierockstar

Next time you get the blinking light take the battery out and put it back in then check the battery life and try vaping again. What type of atty/carto are you using? I am seeing a similar issue once my battery life hits around 3.6 but if I take it out and put it back in I can continue vaping until the battery hits around 3.4 then I get the light again I can take the battery out and put back in Until it hits 3.2 at which point I just go charge it. I have also learned that I don't have to take the battery all the way out, but just unscrew the cap until the light stops blinking then screw it back on.

So I am curious to what your setup is. I have one of the Blue Provaris that were on clearance with a protank on it at 2.5 ohms, but I vape at higher voltage around 5 to 5.4. I am using AW IMR high drain batteries that i bought from Provape, and the batteries and Provari are only about 2 weeks old.

When I first got the blinking light I read on the troubleshooting in the manual about cleaning all the contacts and did that as well.
 

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Vaping is light? Btw, do you have LED setting in ON? If yes, blinking light doesn't mean battery is dead, it is just a warning that it is about to go dead but you'll still get plenty of vape from it.

"vaping is light" to me means that it isn't as much vapor as it was :)
i have the LED off...so it blinks and does not vape.
You must have efests. Get some aws
guilty as *charged*. (get it? LOL)
i do have one AW but i am not sure of it's age as it was a gift.

i mostly use tanked cartos or ce3's...so far the protank and i are not friends at all...(i have some evod heads en route)
I primarily use iken cartos but...i started using a Smok 1.8 carto because i wanted to use the smok pyrex tank that will not accept an iken....

is lower resistance more taxing on the battery? (my brain says that higher resistance/voltage would be but what do i know?)

i see an RTD order in my future....(i am never going to "break even" i don't know why i even thought i would try LOL)
 

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Is lower resistance more taxing on the battery? (my brain says that higher resistance/voltage would be but what do i know?)
Although it depends upon how much voltage is applied, and other factors involved, low resistance may cause more amperage to be drawn from the battery than standard resistance. And when it comes down to it, that's what will drain a battery faster.
 

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"vaping is light" to me means that it isn't as much vapor as it was :)
i have the LED off...so it blinks and does not vape.
Provari's does not vape "light" when the battery is low. It gives a constant voltage that you set from fresh batteries until it dies. If your unit vapes "light", there is something wrong and you need to bring it in for servicing.
 

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Interesting that. ^ I only get a weak vape on the moment the light blinks. Giving it a thought, must be the way I vape. I always take 2 consecutive draws with the button fired all the way and not releasing in between vapes.

or maybe the light is blinking while vaping? i am not looking at the LED while vaping....know what i mean?
 
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