Batterry Options

[TravTech]

My Provari V2 came with an AW IMR 18490. Can I use an AW IMR 18500 in it?

The reason I ask is that there seems a variety of mah ratings available in the 18500 but not so much for the 18490. I'd like to get a little more battery life out of it if I can.

I do plan to eventually get the extender cap for use with the 18650. But I'd probably just use that at home as the Provari is just a tad cumbersome for work as it is now with the 18490.


Thanks, and if there's any other options I haven't considered feel free to enlighten.

 

[bnrkwest]

I would write to Provape directly and ask. Personally I use only what they recommend for batts and size for that unit. bnrk

 

[TravTech]

Down below the mod in the list of accessories they have this listed:



Note the 18490/18500

Which is mainly why I ask. I think the V1's may have shipped with the 18500's, but the V2 I just got came with the 18490.

If there's only like a millimeter in size difference and it has the button on top, you'd maybe just not tighten the bottom cap as far? I'm sure the spring compresses at at least a millimeter in which case there should be no difference in cap seating at all.

They're also both 3.7v batts. So unless I'm missing something,this should work just fine.

Has anyone tried it?

 

[Slurp812]

My V1 came with 2 18490's. But as others have posted, I believe they are the same thing...

 

[donnah]

It says on the site that it takes a single 18490/18500 batt so 18500 is OK to use. I have 18650's and an extension cap.. thinking of getting some 18490's to use with the regular cap. You're right, it can be a bit long with the extension, just the extra half inch makes a difference.

 

[aziffel]

The 18500 is a protected Li-ion battery,the 18490 is a IMR high drain battery.
the LI-ion has a higher mah rating,but provape recommends the IMR,and they work better than Li-ion's(in mine anyway)
The IMR is better able to deliver more stable power.

 

[TravTech]

I've doing a little research on my own, and yeah there are differences.

The 18490 is a Lithium Manganese (vs Lithium Ion) which is what makes it considered high drain (IMR).

The 18490 is an unprotected battery but is considered a "safer chemistry" battery.

All of the batteries I've found designated as 18500 are lithium ion, not IMR (high drain), nor ""safe chemistry" but are protected. "Protected" meaning they have a little circuit board built in to protect from things like overcharge, undercharge, overcurrent, etc.

So it seems I can put an 18500 in the Provari without damaging it or risking my own safety, but it may end up not being able to put out enough current fast enough to suit vaping needs. Though I'm thinking if I stay away from low the res atty's and carto's (including dual coils), this shouldn't be a problem.

My only other concern would be whether or not the protection circuitry of the battery would in any way interact with the protection circuitry of the Provari (or vice versa) causing either to detect a fault and not work at all together. This would depend on what type of sensor circuits are in use. I'd think it very unlikely but not impossible.

 

[zoiDman]

I use Both AW IMR 18490 and AW IC 18500 on my Provari. I don't see much of a Difference between the 2 Except that the 18500 Last Longer.

BUT.

I vape at 3.7~4.3 volts with 2.6~2.8 ohm CE2's.

So that's 4.88 ~ 7.11 watts.

 

[TravTech]

Well that answers my protection circuitry question then. And that volt / ohms / watt range is fine for me.

I'm going for it. 1800mah in without the extender cap here I come!

The extra 700mah should be enough to easily get me through the workday without having to carry a spare. Or I could just play it extra safe and stick with the AW's for only an extra 400mah.

This is good news.

 

[zoiDman]

Just my opinion.

There are a Lot of Batteries out there. Some are Better than others. It's hard to find many Bad Posts about AW Batteries in VV Mods.

Sure they cost a Couple of Bucks More. But you can't even get a Burger and Fries for a Couple of Bucks these days.

 

[TravTech]

It's not so much the price as it is the longevity. Even though with the 1800mah I can get 2 for the price of a AW 1500mah.

So I risk $9, woudn't be the first time I wasted money looking for something better with vaping gear .

Oh and the 1800's are made by the same company as the chargers that come with many PVs so I'm hoping that's some small testament to their reliability.

If not, I'll just snag some AW's and call it a day.

 

[bnrkwest]

Just be safe - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html bnrk

 

[TravTech]

The brand name I went with is listed as one of the reccomended protected L-Ion brands in that safety guide.

If this works out it seems it could be a pretty good deal. 2 1800mah batts for $8.69 with free shipping.

I'll report back with my results unless I end end up with swollen blistered finger nubs and can't type.

 

[knivesout]

Hopefully you read this on the provape site?

Batteries - We only recommend using approved 18490 and 18650 batteries in the ProVari. All of the batteries that we sell on our website have been tested to work with the ProVari and these are the only cells you should use. Using the wrong battery will void your warranty and could damage the unit. There is a big difference between all the different batteries on the market and a lot of testing has been done on these various batteries. The reason we recommend using high drain cells is because these cells can output more current providing the ProVari with the power it needs to operate properly. There are a number of batteries that will cause issues including the Trustfire, Ultrafire and other brands. These batteries cannot handle higher current output and the battery will turn off while in use or cause a low battery alert much sooner than it should because the batteries have a high internal resistance. Please make sure you get the proper batteries to use in the ProVari to avoid problems.

I don't think voiding the warranty and poor performance (if they work at all) is worth the few bucks you'd be saving on the batteries.

 

[TravTech]

It's not so much the price as it is the longevity.

Not even trying to save money. It's just a by product of seeking extended battery life.

As far as performance, it's already been stated they work fine at standard resistance levels.

HP printers say the same thing about using non-HP toner cartridges in their printers. So when the guy shows up for warranty service, you just slap an old empty HP cartridge in and you're good to go. Been there done that.

Worst case scenario, I'd have to end up fixing my own Provari some time down the road. But with a degree in electronics engineering and years of experience building advanced electronic medical equipment from the component level, I'm thinking it shouldn't be a problem.

Hrm... maybe I should look into starting my own mods. But it's been a long time since I've done any assembly work.

 

[knivesout]

If extended runtime is what you're after, get the extension cap and throw this battery in there.

Panasonic CGR18650 button top

Personally I wouldn't use protected batteries in an expensive mod that isn't designed for them, JMHO. If you have no issues repairing the device yourself then by all means, try it out and let us know what you find!

 

[NickZac]

I just bought a Provari V2 and asked about this...from ProVape...

We only recommend using the AW red high drain batteries because these cells have enough output current to handle the demands that the ProVari needs. While the trustfires and others with a button top will work, it's when you get into pulling more power those protected IC batteries will shutdown. This is because the protection circuit on the battery is turning off when it reaches its output max which is only about 2 amps. With the AW cells they can supply a lot more power to the unit.

After reading that I went with the AW unprotected ones. With all the safeties built into the Provari, I really am not too worried about them being unprotected. Also, the AW batteries are pretty stable.

 

[jfallinjr]

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