Battery do's and don't?

[Lessifer]

Please, spare me. Both people had plenty of "responses to the post" before either of those replies, I rarely talk about a poster unless it's clear the poster himself has a problem. When someone lies about what you post, that is a personal attack that requires a personal reply. The liar is the one who initiates the response "not to the post" and needs to be called out on that as you think you are doing here.

As for the second one, I like how you didn't notice that my reply was structured in the exact same way as the post it replied to (I agree, a personal attack on me), and didn't bother saying anything about that post. The structure shows that I am directly responding to the content of the post.

This goes to show the issue here, people are judging by who's posting; popularity contests have never been a legitimate way to know the truth.



If you were a subohm vaper and are not one now, you probably would do research learn and about the facts surrounding what you need to do to achieve the goal. In that research you'd learn that many subohm vapers use fasttech batteries, and no one has had an issue with them. In the end there is no quality-related reason to buy batteries elsewhere, that's the point. They have as good a reputation for supplying genuine batteries as the best US sites, and they were verified the same way -- by someone ordering and testing the battery. A battery having the company's name on it is meaningless as many genuines do not.

By the way no panasonics would be suitable for a 20a draw. Only a specific few FT batteries would be suitable for 20a and a fake would be found out immediately. That is extreme performance and there is no faking that.

And yet you continue, this isn't a thread about fasttech, move on. I have done research, I don't do sub ohm for two reasons: 1) I don't own a mech 2) I don't feel the need, I get great performance from my micro coils.

The sad truth is there are a lot of sub ohm vapers who don't do their research, have no idea what they are doing, don't know the first thing about what makes a battery suitable for sub ohm vaping, and don't even own a multimeter. Since you'll no doubt bring this back to fasttech I will say this, I would love it if they listed the battery ratings, their info is pretty minimal.

 

[Lessifer]

Oh and yes, I'm well aware my panasonics couldn't handle a 20amp draw.

 

[New2vaps]

How is RDTVapors shady by the standard being employed in this thread?

 

[dr g]

I'm not gonna go too far down this road because it's really for another thread, but as far as I've seen, I see far more people saying there are subohm vapers who don't know what they are doing than subohm vapers who actually don't know what they are doing. Frankly I think that's a meme. All these subohm idiots, but where are the subohm-related battery failures?

Truth is, if you don't know what you are doing with subohm, you won't be doing it for long because you won't get good results.

How is RDTVapors shady by the standard being employed in this thread?

Because all it has is user recommendations and confirmation that their products are legit. Apparently that's not enough by the standard here. Doesn't matter at all that that's pretty much all any site can have.

Please note, I didn't make this thread about fasttech.

 

[tearose50]

Not cool to change the meaning of my post by quoting out of context. That's bad practice and is dishonest.

This is what I actually posted:



The point is finding non-shady dealers. RTDVapors is shady by the standard being employed in this thread.

My point was to get this thread back on topic, Doc.

I didn't mention your name in an attempt to not further the irrate discourse. And, for your information, putting ... means words were left out. The fourth . is the end of the sentence.

Didn't work......

 

[dr g]

My point was to get this thread back on topic, Doc.

I didn't mention your name in an attempt to not further the irrate discourse. And, for your information, putting ... means words were left out. The fourth . is the end of the sentence.

Didn't work......

It never will work as long as you leave out the important part of a sentence with an ellipsis. That's a breach of discussion etiquette to say the least. Quoting out of context is dishonest and dishonesty doesn't move a discussion in a positive direction.

 

[tearose50]

My point was to get this thread back on topic, Doc.

 

[tearose50]

 

[Baditude]

I have an idea, Baditude delete replace fasttech with amazon in your original general post about being wary of counterfeit batteries, then dr g can end his crusade to protect the virtue of the name fasttech and a mod can delete the 6 pages of this thread that have nothing to do with battery do's and don'ts. Sound good?

I've made a retraction in my original post. Going back and deleting would be dishonest, as the doctor would say. I hope this settles things down here so that more relevant and educational information can continue to be discussed here.

Edit 8-4-2013: I was unable to find, confirm, and list a link concerning the above information that I posted about FastTech selling counterfeit batteries, although I do recall reading a blip about it. I made a claim that I unfortunately can not confirm, so I respectfully retract that statement. My appologies for the resulting off topic rants that ensued in this thread.

 

[Ryedan]

Just to be on the safe side, is it better to press the power button and hold it for 3 seconds before you vape?

Funny you mention this. I use a lot of care when I set up my mechanical mod, but before I take the first vape after putting a fresh IMR in (after checking the voltage) it I hit the button for about 6 seconds, well away from my face and observe. This process just feels right to me. YMMV.

 

[Ryedan]

Sorry if I missed this in an earlier post - buy a good battery charger. Xtar and Pila come to mind. There are probably other good ones on the market now since I bought my Xtar.

 

[New2vaps]

Even with retracted statement Baditude made, I still won't buy batteries from fasttech. My vamo 3 came with Panasonic batteries and I no longer use them. Why would I risk using one of the most important components in a mod? Just my opinion and I have no facts, websites, etc. for me, I would rather play it safe and order from a known vendor in USA.

 

[bluecat]

My question on do's and don'ts. Just recently got a apv for my 1 year smoking cessation...yes thanks vaping and more importantly ecf. I have read for storage you should keep them topped off. I have been stopping when the battery hit around 3.5v. Is it safe to wait a few days or a week before putting them back on the charger? Most of the storage I read was 3 months or so.

Prior to this I was just using 1300mah fat bats and the variable fat bats. I still like them but like the apv better.

Sorry for the noob question.

 

[Baditude]

According to Battery University: How to Store Batteries – Battery University

Simple Guidelines for Storing Batteries

Remove battery from the equipment and store in a dry and cool place.

Avoid freezing. Batteries freeze more easily if in discharged state.

Lithium-ion must be stored in a charged state, ideally 40 percent. This assures that the battery will not drop below 2.50V/cell with self-discharge and fall asleep.

Discard Li-ion if the voltage has stayed below 2.00/V/cell for more than a week.

Primary batteries store well. Alkaline and primary lithium batteries can be stored for 10 years with moderate loss capacity.

 

[tearose50]

Congrats on your one year anniversary.

"When not in use, store the battery in a cool place. For long-term storage, manufacturers recommend a 40 percent charge."

That's from here: How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University

 

[bluecat]

Thanks gents/ladies. I had read those pieces probably 10 times prior to my purchase. I guess the long term vs short term didn't get through my neaderthal skull. May have also been all the obsessive reading of the flashlight guys boards in addition to ecf.

They put these bats in lights on their heads, but I do realise they use them differently. It is just a little scary what these things can do and we are human with all the good and bad that come from being one.

 

[Katdarling]

My question on do's and don'ts. Just recently got a apv for my 1 year smoking cessation...yes thanks vaping and more importantly ecf. I have read for storage you should keep them topped off. I have been stopping when the battery hit around 3.5v. Is it safe to wait a few days or a week before putting them back on the charger? Most of the storage I read was 3 months or so.

Prior to this I was just using 1300mah fat bats and the variable fat bats. I still like them but like the apv better.

Sorry for the noob question.

Thank you for asking bluecat. It's a great question, and being a noob is not a bad thing. It's the time in our vaping life when we DO ask questions.

(dr g... I shall spare you. this time. )

 

[damthisisfun]

Bats are mammals that can fly..................

 

[dr g]

Even with retracted statement Baditude made, I still won't buy batteries from fasttech. My vamo 3 came with Panasonic batteries and I no longer use them. Why would I risk using one of the most important components in a mod? Just my opinion and I have no facts, websites, etc. for me, I would rather play it safe and order from a known vendor in USA.

The answer is because your "known vendor in the USA" is no more likely to send you a genuine battery. Send your unused panasonics to me, I'll take em off your hands since they are worthless to you.

 

[EddardinWinter]

I now buy all of my batteries from RTD. I purchase AW IMRs they last better than any Panasonic I have used. Most of my Pannys start to show signs of loss of charge capacity within a month or two. I have also tried a couple of off brands with even worse luck.

My AWs that are over six months old show no signs of any loss of capacity. I use them daily, so that is probably about 125-150 cycles so far on them.

I have not purchased any batteries from Fastech. I do not intend to do so.