Battery Explosions.. do they actually happen?

[doesitmatter]

Hey there, im new to vaping and i could finally kick off the bad habbit of PAD.

So as far as these things go, im quite the hypohondriac. Ive read about explosions and such and they got me quite worried. Apologize for the topic that has been discussed much before.

My setup:
I got one of these startup gears, hopefully they are all authentic and not fake (haha, the boxing had all the joyetech emblems which seemed to have some kind of fakeproof emblems).

The battery says: eGo-C Upgrade
Charger says: eGo Usb charger
input: dc 5v 500mA
output: dc 4.2v 420mA

All came in the original packaging. As far as i understood, the C Upgrade is supposed to be some foolproof version? I never leave unattended when charging, but to be quite honest i dont care about it going off in the room, my lungs are more important i guess..

My real question is.. could it go off in my mouth? I've read some stories of these stuff going allah akbar on occasions ahahaha.. i quite like my teeth, would not like to get rid of them just yet!!

For any ego c experienced user, does the gear look authentic to you? It does to me, but you can never be too sure.

Thanks for the answers, your hypohondriac little friend.

 

[Filfa]

The chance at your batteries exploding are almost non-existent
Most if not all of the stories you hear of about exploding batteries relate to extreme sub ohm vaping (like... under 0.2 ohms where the batteries are above their limit)

 

[Thrasher]

If its real joyetech makes quality gear and very few reports of authentic egos popping through the years..

Your doing all the right things and I wouldn't worry to much

This is the same type of battery thats in laptops,phones and everything else. And you see how uncommon problems are with that stuff, even though there's literally billions of them

I can add, don't do things like leave them on a car seat in the sun, don't use em for drum sticks lol etc.

 

[doesitmatter]

Are these these the Nokias of e cigs tho??

It has come to my understanding that me buying the eGo C by mistake might actually be a good thing? Like battery saftey wise?

 

[Thrasher]

You can use whatever topper you want, but joyetech with ovale invented that battery, and it has a great track record of reliability and safety. Probably the most popular stick battery ever sold

 

[r77r7r]

I had a set of upgrades last me 2+yrs and still living. It's nice getting the Passthroughs and just using a USB cable for the charging.

They'll be nice for backups when you move on to a more multi purpose battery.

 

[doesitmatter]

Doubt ill be upgrading. I try to focus less on smoking nowadays..

 

[r77r7r]

Doubt ill be upgrading. I try to focus less on smoking nowadays..

Good for you.

 

[doesitmatter]

Haha the truth is im quite an addict. Had {Moderated} issues before, and i dropped it completely, following by quitting the analogs.

Honestly, if i start modding there will be no way out, my room will look crazier than Walter White's tunnel. As an addict i have a tendancy to taking things to the extreme..

 

[Thrasher]

Haha the truth is im quite an addict. Had {Moderated} issues before, and i dropped it completely, following by quitting the analogs.

Honestly, if i start modding there will be no way out, my room will look crazier than Walter White's tunnel. As an addict i have a tendancy to taking things to the extreme..

Well you wouldn't be alone here, some members have huge collections.

 

[doesitmatter]

My heart says get on it, my brains say enough money wasted on multiple addictions over the years. Could you imagine how much money was spent getting the {Moderated} doses?

 

[djsvapour]

If I had to take one beginner battery and charger to a desert island, I'd take a Joyetech eGo.

In general, I don't like Joyetech either. There it is.... I said it.

 

[Thrasher]

My heart says get on it, my brains say enough money wasted on multiple addictions over the years. Could you imagine how much money was spent getting the {Moderated} doses?

Yea but how many addictions come with a shelf full of cool toys you can always play with lol

 

[bwh79]

1: these batteries don't "explode"; when they fail catastrophically, they vent hot gasses and flames but it's not really an "explosion."
1a: if this happens inside a tightly-sealed enclosure, however, the pressure buildup inside CAN lead to an explosive release of energy -- essentially it becomes a pipe bomb.
1b: for this reason, most devices are designed with safety features such as vent holes to let the pressure escape in the event of such a failure. Ego-type batteries in particular are designed so that the end cap will pop off and release the pressure. Worst-case, you're looking at some pretty bad burns, but it shouldn't blow your face or fingers off.

2: most of the failures occur either during or immediately (within ten minutes or so) after charging. Safest practice would be to charge it in a fireproof container, and then let the battery sit for an hour or so after removing it from the charger, before use. This way, you can be relatively certain it won't go bad while its in your hand or pocket.

3: mechanical/unregulated devices are a different animal entirely. While a regulated device (even your ego battery) will have built-in protections that prevent it from firing too low of a resistance, an unregulated device will just pour out battery voltage into whatever you attach to it. If you push the battery beyond its limits, then it can go off right there in your face, unlike a regulated device which usually fails during or right after charging. If using an unregulated device, you need to be familiar with Ohm's law (amps = volts/ohms) and make sure that the batteries you use are rated significantly higher than the amperage you will be pulling with your selected resistance. Use 4.2v (full charge) for all calculations involving mech/unregulated devices. Example: you have a battery with a continuous discharge rating of 20 amps, and an atomizer with a resistance of 0.2 ohms; are these safe to use together? Let's check. Remeber, that amps = volts/ohms and you should always use 4.2 volts for a full charge. So the amp draw in this case is 4.2/0.2 which works out to 21 amps -- higher than the 20-amp discharge rating for the battery. You should NOT use that particular battery in combination with that particular atomizer. While either of these would be perfectly safe on their own, in the proper configuration, putting the two together is a dangerous proposition. You can either use a better battery with that atomizer, one with a continuous discharge rating of 25-30 amps or higher (it's always best to leave yourself some headroom; if you push it to the limit all of the time then you are just asking for trouble), or else use a different atomizer with that battery, one with higher resistance, for a lower amp draw.

 

[doesitmatter]

Very Informative, Sir!

I have 2 batteries indeed, so i'll just be using the 2nd one for about a hour after the other one charges.
Do these fails happen often? Google seems to be FULL of them, Altho most of the ones i could find were somehow moded / unoriginal packagings / unoriginal chargers and such.

 

[bwh79]

Very Informative, Sir!

I have 2 batteries indeed, so i'll just be using the 2nd one for about a hour after the other one charges.
Do these fails happen often? Google seems to be FULL of them, Altho most of the ones i could find were somehow moded / unoriginal packagings / unoriginal chargers and such.

They're not that common at all. You only hear about the bad ones; people don't generally go on social media and rant about how everything is still working just the way it's supposed to, day after day.

 

[edyle]

Hey there, im new to vaping and i could finally kick off the bad habbit of PAD.

So as far as these things go, im quite the hypohondriac. Ive read about explosions and such and they got me quite worried. Apologize for the topic that has been discussed much before.

My setup:
I got one of these startup gears, hopefully they are all authentic and not fake (haha, the boxing had all the Joyetech emblems which seemed to have some kind of fakeproof emblems).

The battery says: eGo-C Upgrade
Charger says: eGo Usb charger
input: dc 5v 500mA
output: dc 4.2v 420mA

All came in the original packaging. As far as i understood, the C Upgrade is supposed to be some foolproof version? I never leave unattended when charging, but to be quite honest i dont care about it going off in the room, my lungs are more important i guess..

My real question is.. could it go off in my mouth? I've read some stories of these stuff going allah akbar on occasions ahahaha.. i quite like my teeth, would not like to get rid of them just yet!!

For any ego c experienced user, does the gear look authentic to you? It does to me, but you can never be too sure.

Thanks for the answers, your hypohondriac little friend.

Could it go off in your mouth:

The amount of energy in the battery is indicated by the "mah" rating on it.
Yours is probably about 1000 mah.
the small cigarette sized batteries on the cigalike disposables might be around 300 to 600 mah.
The standard 18650 batteries that more advanced users use in the bigger mods are more like 2000 mah.
The more energy there is in the battery, the ......... well, louder the possible BANG!

I did have an ego-c type battery vent on me back in 2013; I was using it and noticed extra smoke coming out of it and dropped it on the floor and watched helplessly as it slowly vented out.
Ultimately I believe the cause of that venting would have been from liquid getting getting down inside the electronics - when you use the older protanks and such where the airflow comes up from the 510 connector, there's the problem of leaking of liquid down through the airhole getting to the 510 connector.

I've only seen here on ecf one incident of an ego type battery exploding and I believe that was caused by it being plugged into the wrong charger. The wrong charger appears to be the main cause of problems.

 

[MrDripper]

The chances of a eGo battery blowing is very rare.
Congrats on kicking your addictions, I can relate on how difficult it can be,
(5 yr coke addiction).
I totally understand the 'no more toys mentality but let me ask...after years of spending money on thing that could have killed you, wouldn't it be nice to spend your money on something that is actually healthy, not to mention, fun!
Welcome to the revolution and the forum!
Vape on!

 

[lovemytank]

I started with the ego setup with the cheap charger. After every charge I would dry fire the battery without tank a few times away from my face. If no obvious signs of trouble then no short and I would vape on. Good luck and enjoy. Just be respectful of your batteries and realize you are much safer vaping with good gear than walking across a busy street.

 

[Baditude]

Just take care of your batteries and use them appropriately, and the likelihood of a mishap will be greatly diminished.

BATTERY SAFETY TIPS:

• Use common sense.
• Don't leave batteries in a hot environment (like a car).
• Don't carry spare batteries (speaking of the external batteries used in mods) in your pocket or purse where they can come into contact with loose change or keys - use plastic battery cases.
• Don't skimp by buying cheap batteries or a cheap charger. Buy quality batteries and chargers, they'll be well worth it in the long run. Buying cheap batteries saves no money in the long run.
• Purchase only recognizeable & reputable brand-name batteries (external batteries) like AW, LG, MNKE, Orbtronics, Panasonic, Samsung, and Sony.
• For eGo class batteries, Joyetech, Vision, and Evod are reputable brand-names.
• Purchase brand-name chargers like Pila, Xtar, Nitecore, and Efest.
• Only use IMR or IMR/hybrid safe-chemistry batteries (external), not protected ICR batteries.
  • List of IMR & IMR/hybrid batteries
• Use the appropriate battery for the specified application. Check battery specifications.
• Don't over-charge or over-discharge batteries.
• Charge all batteries on a flame resistant surface: stove top, metal cooking pan, pyrex glass dish. Statistically, most battery related incidents occur while the battery is being charged. Never charge batteries when you are not home to monitor them.