Battery not lasting & E-Liquid intake.

[Shootist]

True . . . But then again, I'm the type of person that does not wait for the "check oil" light to flash to change the oil, as well.

Two completely different things. Not related at all.
Do you change the battery in your car every year just because?
You can recharge Li-ion batteries anytime you like. They don't have a memory. But by recharging at 3.6 volts you are losing vape time.

As to the other post about recharging empty Li-ion and storage of them. It is best to have about 50% charge in them if you are going to let them sit for an extended period of time. Not a day or 2 but weeks/months.

All IMR batteries have a built in protection. They really won't discharge, unless you force it, once it reaches 3.2 volts. All well made regulated APV's have battery low charge protection. They won't fire and give you a Low Battery warning once the battery has reached that 3.2/3.3 voltage.

 

[mmsjs5]

Reading this might help everyone....Charging Lithium-Ion Batteries

 

[Baditude]

OP, your AW batteries are likely counterfeit batteries, especially since you live in Maylasia. In the USA, we stress for people to purchase only from authorized AW suppliers because they buy directly from AW and can verify their source. All the AW batteries on Alibaba are counterfeit, and many of the AW batteries sold on Amazon and EBay originate from Alibaba.



"It is estimated that about half of AW batteries supplied globally are counterfeit.

AW Batteries has no mainland China distributor: no Alibaba vendors or vendors such as Heaven Gifts supply genuine AW cells - they are all counterfeit.

All AW cells supplied since December 2013 have a hologram label. At May 2014, counterfeiters have now started to reproduce this label - but the copies are not perfect. In particular, a genuine AW hologram label is UV-reactive and glows in UV light; counterfeit labels do not glow under UV light." -- AW Batteries - Authorised Dealers


"Battery counterfeiting: This is a growing problem and all APV users need to be aware of it.

This is what happens: the counterfeiters buy reject Li-ion batteries in bulk, strip the covers off, and re-cover them with labels that change them to look like popular brands. In this way they can take a cell bought for 10 cents, re-work it, and sell it as for example an AW battery with a retail price of $10. The profits are very high and this practice is growing. It means that you never really know what battery you have unless you buy from somewhere with a verified supply chain. For example, all AW batteries offered for sale on Alibaba are counterfeits, and possibly dangerous." -- Rechargeable Batteries



I've used genuine AW batteries (purchased from the authorized dealer RTD Vapor) for over two years. My AW 18650 2000mah IMR batteries last from 16 - 20 hours per charge, depending upon the atomizer load they are pushing. A couple of these being used in my current rotation are over 2 years old and still going strong. I've used high drain IMR batteries from Sony, Efest, and Panasonic, and the AW's are my favorite battery to use.

IMR batteries can be safely discharged to 3.2 volts. As pointed out earlier, charging them when they discharge to 3.6 volts is a little premature, although that will prolong their overall longivity. Regulated mods like a Provari will warn when a battery reaches 3.4 volts, and stop firing (over-discharge protection) around 3.3 volts.

 

[Shootist]

Wow I never knew it worked that way. Oh my I really need to learn more about using APVs. I'd thought that just because I went online and get a chart then put the volt and wattage in the green area it's good to go.

BTW when I first started I put the watt at 15watts. The whole thing heats up like crazy. Hurts my throat. Then I realized I've burned my atomizer. Stupidly went and try again on 6 volts. Same thing. Silly me! xD

The SVD DOES HAVE Step Down. If you put a fully charged battery in, 4.1/4.2 volts, and set it for 3.4 volts it delivers 3.4 volts to the atomizer. Same thing in wattage mode.

See this review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7DnXw0MqTs

 

[Flawed]

OP, your AW batteries are likely counterfeit batteries, especially since you live in Maylasia. In the USA, we stress for people to purchase only from authorized AW suppliers because they buy directly from AW and can verify their source. All the AW batteries on Alibaba are counterfeit, and many of the AW batteries sold on Amazon and EBay originate from Alibaba.



"It is estimated that about half of AW batteries supplied globally are counterfeit.

AW Batteries has no mainland China distributor: no Alibaba vendors or vendors such as Heaven Gifts supply genuine AW cells - they are all counterfeit.

All AW cells supplied since December 2013 have a hologram label. At May 2014, counterfeiters have now started to reproduce this label - but the copies are not perfect. In particular, a genuine AW hologram label is UV-reactive and glows in UV light; counterfeit labels do not glow under UV light." -- AW Batteries - Authorised Dealers


"Battery counterfeiting: This is a growing problem and all APV users need to be aware of it.

This is what happens: the counterfeiters buy reject Li-ion batteries in bulk, strip the covers off, and re-cover them with labels that change them to look like popular brands. In this way they can take a cell bought for 10 cents, re-work it, and sell it as for example an AW battery with a retail price of $10. The profits are very high and this practice is growing. It means that you never really know what battery you have unless you buy from somewhere with a verified supply chain. For example, all AW batteries offered for sale on Alibaba are counterfeits, and possibly dangerous." -- Rechargeable Batteries



I've used genuine AW batteries (purchased from the authorized dealer RTD Vapor) for over two years. My AW 18650 2000mah IMR batteries last from 16 - 20 hours per charge, depending upon the atomizer load they are pushing. A couple of these being used in my current rotation are over 2 years old and still going strong. I've used high drain IMR batteries from Sony, Efest, and Panasonic, and the AW's are my favorite battery to use.

OH MY GOD! GG! There goes my RM78($24) down the drain. The shop wrote Original on the website.

Did the counterfeiters managed to reproduce that UV glow presently? I might go out and get a UV light and see if it glows.

 

[Shootist]

OH MY GOD! GG! There goes my RM78($24) down the drain. The shop wrote Original on the website. View attachment 375764

You didn't show us the Label, IE the sticker that reads AW.

Post a picture of that label. To me, the little bit I can see of it in the image you posted, it looks like a real AW as the newer AW batteries have a white/silver label. As apposed to the older style that was black field with silver boarder and lettering.

 

[Flawed]

Okay this is the best I can get out of my 5mp outdated smartphone.

 

[roosterado]

Looks pretty good to me I suggest doing what you said learning more about APV's IMR batteries from the links above and on E-Cig forums-YouTube and I think you will do fine.

 

[Shootist]

Looks like a REAL AW.

Charge one up, stick it in the PV, vape on it until the battery runs out, PV stops vaping, and check how many hours it lasts.

In other words stop looking at the remaining battery charge, Just Vape on it.

 

[Flawed]

Just to make sure I'm getting a UV Light. Should arrive in 4-5 days.

Uh... for testing purposes, what settings should I put it to? I don't want to put too high of a volt/watt and ended up thinking it's the battery fault. I don't mind about the taste for now(since I'm still on analogs) so should I go with the lowest that is 3 watts? Or maybe something more average?

 

[Shootist]

Just to make sure I'm getting a UV Light. Should arrive in 4-5 days.

Uh... for testing purposes, what settings should I put it to? I don't want to put too high of a volt/watt and ended up thinking it's the battery fault. I don't mind about the taste for now(since I'm still on analogs) so should I go with the lowest that is 3 watts? Or maybe something more average?

Test it at the volts/watts you find gives you the vapor production and the flavor you like. That would be 3.4 volts and or 5.5 or 6 watts with a 2/2.1 ohm coil.

Ohms law. 3.4 volts with a 2 ohm coil is 5.78 watts and with a 2.1 ohm coil is 5.504 watts. 5.5 watts is 3.31 volts and 6 watts is 3.46 volts with a 2 Ohm coil and with a 2.1 ohm coil those would be 3.398 and 3.549 volts respectively.

 

[Flawed]

I always wondered how people can "taste" the flavor when they vape. When I vape it all tastes the same no matter the settings. The only perceived difference that I can tell is the heat of the vapor.

 

[FallenRawToast]

I always wondered how people can "taste" the flavor when they vape. When I vape it all tastes the same no matter the settings. The only perceived difference that I can tell is the heat of the vapor.

than maybe you have a very ....ty quality juice??

 

[DaveP]

I generally vape at 7.5W with a Kayfun in my Provari. I'm up from 7am until about midnight and my PV seldom leaves my side. I go through two 18650 batts in a day, so that's 7 or 8 hours of vaping a 1.8 ohm coil at 3.7v or so.

I tend to get about the same vaping time from my AW 2000mah 18650s, my Efest 2250mah's, or the purple Efest 2500mah batts. Two will get me through a day vaping 5 to 6ml of juice. I'll fill my Kayfun twice, but I don't usually vape it completely empty. I like it better when it'd full, since it seems to feed juice better until it gets down to about 1/4 full.

 

[vexxis]

I have some more expensive batteries but of all them the best is a no-name from God only knows where (probably thrown in with something). It's a 3100 mAh 18650 and lasts longer than any other battery I have, go figure? I even got a 3600 mAh from somewhere and it doesn't last a long as the 3100. This battery can sit on the shelf for 2 weeks after charging and then last 2 days where my other 18650s (many name brand) only last 1/2 day (in a Vamo V5). I'm sure most (if not all) of my batteries are counterfeit (if they are name brand). At some point we will see the supply chain come to order and get good quality everything (I hope). I guess my point is that it's definitely possible to make a better 18650 that lasts twice as long as most as I have one (perhaps just a fluke) and someone will probably come out with a reputable, high quality line soon.

I guess I over tightened my Nautilus and it started leaking and gurgling so not having the time to deal with that I simply put it aside and threw on a 3.5 ml Vivi Nova clone which costs less than $4 and it's been working so well I still haven't gotten around to fixing up the Nautilis after a couple of weeks (and why bother, I'll probably break the glass when I go back to using it, the Vivi Nova clone is plastic and less prone to break - Vape is 98% as good (and the 2% difference doesn't matter much). I have 3 Vamo V5s, two are definitely clones and one of them works better than the original KSD Vamo. Sometimes the clones work well but the copying and counterfeiting is currently totally out of control and one of he problems we have with the industry.

If your not sub ohming, I don't think it matters much what battery you use or how long it lasts, just have some extras and a charger on hand.

 

[DaveP]

I have some more expensive batteries but of all them the best is a no-name from God only knows where (probably thrown in with something). It's a 3100 mAh 18650 and lasts longer than any other battery I have, go figure? I even got a 3600 mAh from somewhere and it doesn't last a long as the 3100. This battery can sit on the shelf for 2 weeks after charging and then last 2 days where my other 18650s (many name brand) only last 1/2 day (in a Vamo V5). I'm sure most (if not all) of my batteries are counterfeit (if they are name brand). At some point we will see the supply chain come to order and get good quality everything (I hope). I guess my point is that it's definitely possible to make a better 18650 that lasts twice as long as most as I have one (perhaps just a fluke) and someone will probably come out with a reputable, high quality line soon.

I guess I over tightened my Nautilus and it started leaking and gurgling so not having the time to deal with that I simply put it aside and threw on a 3.5 ml Vivi Nova clone which costs less than $4 and it's been working so well I still haven't gotten around to fixing up the Nautilis after a couple of weeks (and why bother, I'll probably break the glass when I go back to using it, the Vivi Nova clone is plastic and less prone to break - Vape is 98% as good (and the 2% difference doesn't matter much). I have 3 Vamo V5s, two are definitely clones and one of them works better than the original KSD Vamo. Sometimes the clones work well but the copying and counterfeiting is currently totally out of control and one of he problems we have with the industry.

If your not sub ohming, I don't think it matters much what battery you use or how long it lasts, just have some extras and a charger on hand.

Check out the top and bottom glass threads of the tank for cracks. Mine started gurgling and it turned out that the top thread had a crack that wasn't visible until I removed the metal cap. I picked up another glass tank for $7.99 at the local B&M and fixed that problem.

 

[Baditude]

I always wondered how people can "taste" the flavor when they vape. When I vape it all tastes the same no matter the settings. The only perceived difference that I can tell is the heat of the vapor.

If you are a relatively new vaper, you likely have what's called "vaper's tongue or smoker's tongue". Years of smoking damages your taste buds. After you stop smoking, they will eventually heal. But until that time your sense of taste will be muted.

You might want to try some flavors from multiple vendors. Not all juices are of the same quality. Some are more flavorful than others. Cinnamon and mint flavors are the strongest.

 

[Flawed]

than maybe you have a very ....ty quality juice??

You might be right. It's the Liqua line from the company Ritchy. Thought I'd save some money on juice hahaha. Guess I should go try some of those premium e-liquid.

If you are a relatively new vaper, you likely have what's called "vaper's tongue or smoker's tongue". Years of smoking damages your taste buds. After you stop smoking, they will eventually heal. But until that time your sense of taste will be muted.

Ah makes sense. Seems I gotta wait a few months before I can taste the juice. No biggie I'll just vape till the taste comes back.

If your not sub ohming, I don't think it matters much what battery you use or how long it lasts, just have some extras and a charger on hand.

Got it.

 

[Flawed]

SORRY FOR DOUBLE POSTING.

OP, your AW batteries are likely counterfeit batteries, especially since you live in Maylasia. In the USA, we stress for people to purchase only from authorized AW suppliers because they buy directly from AW and can verify their source. All the AW batteries on Alibaba are counterfeit, and many of the AW batteries sold on Amazon and EBay originate from Alibaba.

I've used genuine AW batteries (purchased from the authorized dealer RTD Vapor) for over two years. My AW 18650 2000mah IMR batteries last from 16 - 20 hours per charge, depending upon the atomizer load they are pushing. A couple of these being used in my current rotation are over 2 years old and still going strong. I've used high drain IMR batteries from Sony, Efest, and Panasonic, and the AW's are my favorite battery to use.

I received my UV light today and proceeded to check both my batteries. They both past the UV test so I reckon they are genuine unless the counterfeiters somehow managed to reproduce those effects as well. Here's a pic I took with UV light over the logo.



About the battery lasting I'm more interested in the "vaping time" and not how many hours it last. I tested my battery and they last well over an hour of continuous vaping. Of course I do not vape for and hour straight more like 5 - 10 mins ever hour. But it's lasting for a day so I'm not complaining. So I assume that you mean your batteries last 20 hours is including the "non vaping time" because if it really last you 20 hours continuous vape then that's one hell of a battery and I NEED one too. Would probably last me half a month at that capacity.

If you are a relatively new vaper, you likely have what's called "vaper's tongue or smoker's tongue". Years of smoking damages your taste buds. After you stop smoking, they will eventually heal. But until that time your sense of taste will be muted.

You might want to try some flavors from multiple vendors. Not all juices are of the same quality. Some are more flavorful than others. Cinnamon and mint flavors are the strongest.

YEA BABY! I pumped the volt to the maximum safe level and guess what? I can finally feel the coolness of the menthol. Wow I have been vaping at too low of a level to really taste the juice. I am S-U-P-E-R H-A-P-P-Y!!! Now I can finally switch to vaping because when it was too low of a level I feel reluctant to convert because it does not feel right. Finally feels like an analog but is not an analog. Man I'm starting to love vaping.