Battery Problems...Am I doing something wrong??

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bettysue

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Hi,

I recently purchased my first e=cig kit: eGo-C w/ SmokTech Redux Starter Kit

When I got the kit, I thoroughly charged both of the batteries however when I went to use them one of the batteries would die after about 5 puffs and the other battery seemed to charge and work just fine. I returned for exchange the bad battery and kept the other since it seemed to work properly.

Now a week later the second battery is dying on me after about 6 puffs. I make sure I charge it until it turns green and sometimes a little longer.

My question to those of you who know is, am I doing something wrong or is the second battery also defective?

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betty
 
Hmm...well, I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but let's see what I can do.

I had an atomizer base die on me about a week ago, and for whatever reason, the whole kit didn't work as a result (the battery wouldn't even bother to light...all in all, a bad day). That being said, disconnect the battery from the rest of the kit, and press the button. Does it die as quickly then? Not saying it's necessarily the same thing as I had, but it would be beneficial to ensure it is indeed just the battery.
 

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Thank you for your replies and ideas. The vendor called me a little while ago as he received the battery I returned back today. He said that he put it on the charger and that it worked fine after. He didn't have any idea as to why this battery would be doing the same thing now.

What happens to the battery is:
1. I charge the battery until the light turns green
2. I remove the battery from the charger and screw the clearomizer back onto it
3. Push the button on the battery 5 times to turn it on, take 5 or 6 puffs
4. Push the button on the battery 5 times to turn it off.
5. Wait a while (15-30 mins.) press the button 5 more times to turn it on and the button doesn't light up and unit doesn't work.

thank you,

betty
 

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Unless you're going to be carrying the battery in a way that might accidentally fire it, there's no need to turn it off - ever. It uses no power unless the fire button is pressed, and may actually use slightly more each time you turn it on.

It might just be that your technique for turning it on isn't working. I'll occasionally do that myself! It's going to be 5 very fast taps on the button, and then it should light up briefly. If it doesn't, and you're sure it has a charge, try again.

Also, you might try turning it on with nothing on it. Maybe it's falsely seeing the clearo as too low a resistance when it powers up, and going into safety shut down? If that's the case, you might need to put it back on the charger to reset.

Good luck!
 

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Unless you're going to be carrying the battery in a way that might accidentally fire it, there's no need to turn it off - ever. It uses no power unless the fire button is pressed, and may actually use slightly more each time you turn it on.

It might just be that your technique for turning it on isn't working. I'll occasionally do that myself! It's going to be 5 very fast taps on the button, and then it should light up briefly. If it doesn't, and you're sure it has a charge, try again.

Also, you might try turning it on with nothing on it. Maybe it's falsely seeing the clearo as too low a resistance when it powers up, and going into safety shut down? If that's the case, you might need to put it back on the charger to reset.

Good luck!

Thank you so much for the excellent advice.

I discovered this morning that the battery isn't dead after all. I thought it had died last night but forgot to put it on the charger so this morning for the heck of it I did the 5 quick clicks then the blue light flickered and I was able to use it. The white light didn't turn on during the 5 clicks which I thought it needed to do and I think that is why I have been thinking the battery was dead after the first use.

The first time I use it after charging the button light turns white with each of the 5 clicks then sometimes it will flash a few times white and other times it will flash a few times blue. That is why I thought that the button needed to light up with the 5 on and off clicks since it does it after I charge the battery.

It's good to know that I don't need to keep turning it off and on as I was just following the instructions, but I actually prefer to follow experience :)

Now if I can only figure out why when I finish puffing on the e-cig I crave a regular cigarette. :blink:

thank you and the others who replied for the information, advice, and help!

betty
 

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Glad to hear it's working. You've now passed your first test, with flying colors. Hey, we all make "dumb" mistakes, and the important thing is to learn from them so we're free to make new ones :blush:

It could also be, after charging when you go to turn it on, that it's already on. Slow clicks are usually seen as the same as pressing the button to vape. And they do do various things after charging. Some of mine will blink many times, some just a few. (Different batteries.)

Regarding the after vape urge, what level of nic are you using? I started with 18 (pack plus per day 45 year addiction), and that didn't work for me. Went up to 24 and haven't burned tobacco since. (Back down to 18 now, and intend to periodically lower it.) So maybe that's what's going on?

I've also read that due to the larger size of the vaporized molecule of nicotine vs. the size of the burned one, our intake is different. So maybe that's why a higher concentration helps when starting out. Don't know, just from my experience of what worked for me.
 

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Glad to hear it's working. You've now passed your first test, with flying colors. Hey, we all make "dumb" mistakes, and the important thing is to learn from them so we're free to make new ones :blush:

It could also be, after charging when you go to turn it on, that it's already on. Slow clicks are usually seen as the same as pressing the button to vape. And they do do various things after charging. Some of mine will blink many times, some just a few. (Different batteries.)

Regarding the after vape urge, what level of nic are you using? I started with 18 (pack plus per day 45 year addiction), and that didn't work for me. Went up to 24 and haven't burned tobacco since. (Back down to 18 now, and intend to periodically lower it.) So maybe that's what's going on?

I've also read that due to the larger size of the vaporized molecule of nicotine vs. the size of the burned one, our intake is different. So maybe that's why a higher concentration helps when starting out. Don't know, just from my experience of what worked for me.

I Initially bought 24mg but choked and coughed all the time. So it was suggested I dilute it down to about 16-18mg which I did. At that level I was still spending more time coughing than puffing so the other day I received the 12mg that I ordered and that seems to be better as long as I don't do a deep inhale and puff and inhale more gently.

My regular smoking habit it 2-3 packs a day of menthol. A couple of years ago when all the new and higher cigarette taxes and prices went up I ended up having to switch to Clippers Menthol which is a cigar that looks and tastes like a menthol cigarette (to me) and is only $11.99/carton.

The strength of the liquid I bought is the only reason I could figure that caused the choking and coughing which is why I diluted and bought milder. Could I be doing something else wrong that is causing it?

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    I was thinking for my sister that it might be the Heat, and we're going to try the 2.5 or 3.0 Ohm cartos.

    She was also at the beginning not keeping them wet enuf and getting very dry hits, which would make anyone cough.

    We're also going to try not inhaling, I've heard that just having vape in your mouth is good enuf.
     

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    You could be coughing because of the type of drag or inhale you're used to with a cigarette. The technique is different with ecigs. What works for me is simply gathering the vapor in my mouth during a slow drag (not inhaling very hard on the device and letting the burning coil do the work). Once I have a good amount of vapor in my mouth, do a quick inhale/exhale, but not one of those deep ones where it reaches the bottom of my lungs. The important thing, imo, is making sure you gather the vapor in the mouth first, with your throat closed off. If you go directly from the push of a button to the lungs, it will hurt and you will cough.
     

    bettysue

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    I was thinking for my sister that it might be the Heat, and we're going to try the 2.5 or 3.0 Ohm cartos.

    She was also at the beginning not keeping them wet enuf and getting very dry hits, which would make anyone cough.

    We're also going to try not inhaling, I've heard that just having vape in your mouth is good enuf.

    What do you mean by "not keeping them wet enough"?? Sorry still getting used to some of the terms and processes here.

    thank you,
    betty
     

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    Per the site you reference, the coils are 1.8 ohms. The battery is a regulated 3.3 volts, so that give yu just a bit over 6 watts... going to a 2.4 coil would give you about 4 1/2 watts, a cooler vape. Might be worth a try.

    Which part are the coils? I looked through the description of my kit and there are 2 things labeled as 1.8ohms- the clearomizers and the replacement heads.

    thank you,
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    bettysue

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    You could be coughing because of the type of drag or inhale you're used to with a cigarette. The technique is different with ecigs. What works for me is simply gathering the vapor in my mouth during a slow drag (not inhaling very hard on the device and letting the burning coil do the work). Once I have a good amount of vapor in my mouth, do a quick inhale/exhale, but not one of those deep ones where it reaches the bottom of my lungs. The important thing, imo, is making sure you gather the vapor in the mouth first, with your throat closed off. If you go directly from the push of a button to the lungs, it will hurt and you will cough.

    I try not to inhale but it must just be a force of habit. I always inhale and cough on at least the first two puffs then after that I'm pretty much ok I just have to be aware of how I am doing it. I guess I'll catch on as the coughing is no fun!
     

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    The heads contain the wick and coil, and screw into the base. Yup, all in your kit are 1.8 ohm, but replacements are available in different resistance values.

    Top coil clearos can sometimes have issues with the wicks not drawing juice fast enough, so they can sometimes give a dry hit, where all you get is heat. Rolling or twirling the entire unit, holding it off vertical, so the juice comes in contact with the wick gets around that, as does keeping the clearo topped off. I seldom have that problem until the clearo gets down to nearly empty, although of course, ymmv.

    I also tend to take a brief puff before a real one, as it can take a moment for the coil to heat up and actually start vaporizing. (And also as a carry over from my smoking days. I hand rolled, and always took a primer drag to get it going enough to get a good lungful!)
     
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