I'm new to vaping and have the vapor ultra. I believe its an 808 type, I'm happy with how it works as far as vapor production but the battery dies after half the day. I'm trying to break a 30 year pack a day habit. Is there a battery that would fit my charger and pre-filled cartomizers...I dont want to buy a whole new starter kit and I have about 20 pre-filled cartomizers I want to use up. Also, I ordered some nic juice form backwoods brewery and watched the video on how to fill cartomizers but don't know where to get empty ones or can I refill the ones I have when they are empty? Thanks for any help. I'm a nurse and I work 12 hr shifts so I would like a battery that would last all day but not to large so it feels like a ciggarette to me....I cant really plug it in at work.......I think the Drs would frown on that. lol thanks for any help
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I'm currently reusing the cartos that I bought with my V2 starter kit. I have had no real problems with them (I'm also really cheap). You just pop off the top plastic piece, fill the padding (the cotton looking stuff around the air hole in the center) carefully with your e-juice, and replace the top cap. It's that easy.
You can also get adapters that will allow you to fit your 808 style cartos on a 510 battery (I'd say look at the Joyetech eGo-C or the Volcano Inferno batteries. They both have had great reviews from what I've seen). You may have to look around for the adapters though.
You can also get adapters that will allow you to fit your 808 style cartos on a 510 battery (I'd say look at the Joyetech eGo-C or the Volcano Inferno batteries. They both have had great reviews from what I've seen). You may have to look around for the adapters though.
The rule of thumb for batteries is that the average vaper will get about about one hour of average use for every 100 mAh of battery capacity. This rule is a guideline and nothing more but it is a useful way to estimate battery life between charges.
I looked at the Vapor Ulta site and could not find a battery capacity listed but most of the small cig-like e-cigs have batteries rated as a few hundred mAh at best.
The larger APV I use is equipped with 1050 mAh batteries. I would want two of those batteries to get me through a 12-hour shift.
An eGo sized APV is not that big. It can still fit into a pocket or purse. There are lots and lots to choose from.
My venerable E-Power 14650:
I looked at the Vapor Ulta site and could not find a battery capacity listed but most of the small cig-like e-cigs have batteries rated as a few hundred mAh at best.
The larger APV I use is equipped with 1050 mAh batteries. I would want two of those batteries to get me through a 12-hour shift.
An eGo sized APV is not that big. It can still fit into a pocket or purse. There are lots and lots to choose from.
My venerable E-Power 14650:
The E-Power 14650 is an APV. It uses rechargeable batteries that look like AA batteries, only longer. I use a Li-ion battery charger to charge these. You can also find PVs that have batteries built into the body that fit into their own charger.
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Sad to say, you need to go up in size if you want more battery life. Your only alternative is to have a PCC (Portable Charger Case) for your batteries.
I don't have much information on 808 types, so I don't know where to get the best and cheapest PCC for those. Hopefully someone else can fill in with information on that. I wouldn't recommend refilling empty pre-filled cartos, mostly because the flavor mix might not be very pleasant, and I can't think that would help anyone trying to kick their baccy habit. You'll have to buy empty cartos for your kit. These should be readily available where you already bought your kit. These can be refilled several times, basically until they burn out or taste wonky, which can take a long time depending on use.
Generally though, it seems to me like the eRoll/emini kit could be the way to go for you, if you want to be able to have fresh batteries with you on the go, while still enjoying the cigarette sized e-cigs, since it comes complete with a decent PCC. If I were to recommend a new kit for anyone, this would be it. It's a different tank and filling system though, but seems cleaner and less of a hassle to me, and igetcha69 and pbusardo (edit: youtube reviewers) have some very instructive and complete reviews of the kit that would teach you everything you'd need to know.
Cheers!
PS! I agree with the person over me, as going with something like an eGo with its 510-connection is generally a better and longer lasting alternative. Personally I'd go with straight eGo batteries rather than going with rechargable batteries and a charger etc. eGo batteries are cheap, tried and proven and can be charged in your computer. It gives you more room to play around with in addition to the bigger batteries. They're bigger, but really not that big. These things always look smaller irl than on pictures, and you get used to it fast.
I don't have much information on 808 types, so I don't know where to get the best and cheapest PCC for those. Hopefully someone else can fill in with information on that. I wouldn't recommend refilling empty pre-filled cartos, mostly because the flavor mix might not be very pleasant, and I can't think that would help anyone trying to kick their baccy habit. You'll have to buy empty cartos for your kit. These should be readily available where you already bought your kit. These can be refilled several times, basically until they burn out or taste wonky, which can take a long time depending on use.
Generally though, it seems to me like the eRoll/emini kit could be the way to go for you, if you want to be able to have fresh batteries with you on the go, while still enjoying the cigarette sized e-cigs, since it comes complete with a decent PCC. If I were to recommend a new kit for anyone, this would be it. It's a different tank and filling system though, but seems cleaner and less of a hassle to me, and igetcha69 and pbusardo (edit: youtube reviewers) have some very instructive and complete reviews of the kit that would teach you everything you'd need to know.
Cheers!
PS! I agree with the person over me, as going with something like an eGo with its 510-connection is generally a better and longer lasting alternative. Personally I'd go with straight eGo batteries rather than going with rechargable batteries and a charger etc. eGo batteries are cheap, tried and proven and can be charged in your computer. It gives you more room to play around with in addition to the bigger batteries. They're bigger, but really not that big. These things always look smaller irl than on pictures, and you get used to it fast.
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Smokeless Image has the X2 which uses 808 connections...comes in 650 900 and 1300 I think.
Thanks for the quick replies yzer and dradeel........I looked up a review and I thing my battery is only a 210 mah...which explains why its crap....I feel like smoking now as its charging.....need an upgrade. I love the pic of your device yzer..its smaller than I though they would be. Dradel the site where I purchased my ecig does not have empty cartomizers guess they want me to but theirs at 9.95 per pack which would cost me alot long term and is why I wanted to fill them up myself. Grimwald will those batteries fit my charger and catos that I have now?.... thanks for the replies ...I feel very dumb about this right now. Watching an ecig charge is like watching a pot of water boil.....
Vaporultra.com, yeah? So I see. And yes, it's a lot cheaper to fill them up yourself.
Grimwald makes a good point about the Smokeless Image X2s. I'm quite certain they will fit the cartos you already have:
Smokeless Image | The Best Electronic Cigarette
Alternatively, you could get their Spinner Variable Voltage battery, if you want to experiment a little with your vaping experience:
Smokeless Image | The Best Electronic Cigarette
Smokelessimage also sells empty cartos that should fit both your current batteries and the X2s (and their Spinner):
Smokeless Image | The Best Electronic Cigarette
As far as your charger goes, I'm not sure if it packs enough of a punch to charge these bigger batteries. I have no clue about electronics like that, but my guess is it won't work, if this quote from Smokeless Image's site is anything to go by: "DO NOT try to charge these with your VOLT USB Battery Chargers. Only charge using the Mini USB Cord that comes with the item." And from this quote, it seems like the X2 Passthrough battery does come with a USB cord to charge them with (and to use as a passthrough, meaning you can vape while it's charging, like you could've done now instead of eagerly watching your battery charge up, haha), so that resolves that problem either way. In my opinion, that makes a passthrough battery very handy for someone who's trying to kick their baccy habit. For the Spinner battery you'll have to buy the charger for it, as you can see.
A small recommendation: Get a manual battery if you choose to get a X2 battery. I'd personally also recommend you to go with at least an 900mah battery, cause judging from your current use the 900mah should be able to get your through your work shifts. I'm a moderate user and 900-1000 mah lasts me through an ordinary day, at least
The 900mah is a little bit longer than the 650mah, and certainly bigger than your current batteries, but it's not off putting at all. After a day of use you won't even think about it.Good luck finding something that suits you!
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Dradeeel, I just looked at the volt x2 battery I think thats the perfect solution. I could be vaping now if I had one lol.....oh well I will order one....feel like the vapor ultra was a waste of money but it got me here right? It comes in a very nice raspberry color.....would it be better to get empty cartomizers or they have clearomizer things, which is best? I have 4 bottles of nic liquid coming and can't wait. I don't know why but I ordered the cartomizers I have in 6 mg thinking they would be better for me...less nicotine but bad cravings, so I ordered the juice in a 12 mg. Do you think that will be good enough? Is it dangerous to vape too much?
Why the manual battery? Is it better.....
Thanks for your help
Why the manual battery? Is it better.....
Thanks for your help
It wasn't a waste of money if you liked it and you found it to help get you off tobacco cigs!
The first ones I bought were V2Cigs, which are basically the same that you got, and I enjoyed them, but retrospectively I see that I could just as well have gotten something bigger and better ... but I also probably wouldn't have gotten into it unless I got the cigarette sized ones first. It's all good!I think going with the X2 battery is a great choice! I hope you will enjoy it!
I haven't tried those clearomizers, but I would recommend the empty cartomizers. Cartomizers are fairly tried and true and will likely do what they say on the tin. Clearomizers, however ... meeeh, generally not so much... But people have different views and experiences with them, so don't take my word for it
Others in here can probably give you much more accurate info on which mg strength you'd likely need, but my general impression is that 16-24 mg is preferred by people who have been smoking a lot for a long time. 12 mg isn't a bad choice though. 6 mg is probably a little bit too weak for you. I vape 6 mg, but I never smoked regular cigarettes, so it's plenty for me. You can try the 12 mg, and if feel you'll need something that packs a bigger punch, especially during and after work, then perhaps something like 18 mg would be a good choice. Depends on which strengths are available too, of course!
As far as safety goes, the medical knowledge on the ingredients in e-liquids (excluding nicotine) seems to indicate that they don't pose any significant danger when vaping (at least not in the doses you're able to get when vaping, even when chain vaping 24/7). When compared to the literally hundreds and thousands of well documented ingredients in tobacco that cause everything from heart to lung and even skin problems, it's fair to say it poses less of a health risk. That said, there exists no broad study on long term vaping, since vaping is a fairly new phenomenon. Nicotine is however known to have some issues with it, but you'll get that regardless of what method you choose, unless you want to quit cold turkey. I believe the general experience by e-cig-users is that e-cigs let you control your nicotine intake to a much greater degree, since you know exactly what nicotine level is in your juice. As such, over time you can adjust your nicotine level and eventually get off it completely. This is much harder to do with tobacco cigarettes. In short: vaping is generally accepted as a reduced-risk alternative to tobacco. Nothing is completely free of risk in this world, I'm afraid.
Personally, I've found nothing conclusive that says it's unhealthy to a degree that I would choose not to vape (actually, I'm intrigued by the possibly positive effects of nicotine, but sadly this hasn't been sufficiently studied, as nicotine has generally been linked with tobacco, and as such has gotten a lot of bad wrap through the years). The greatest danger to my health, that I can see, are faulty batteries, but we're surrounded by tons of electronic devices all day without having worried about it so far. I hold my phone up against my ear several times a day. A vaping device in my mouth doesn't seem much different, and vaping devices today are also stacked with safety features for just this reason. For that reason it doesn't worry me. But that's my personal choice though, so you will have to figure that out for yourself
Others here can probably refer you to articles on the issue, as I don't have any at hand.It lets you control when the battery activates the vaporizer. You'll be able to click the button and have it "prime" itself and get heated before you start dragging, as opposed to automatic batteries that often need so called "primer puffs" to get it going. Also, manual batteries will be sealed in the connection, which adds protection against leakage that can damage the battery. Automatic batteries are completely fine for cigarette-sized batteries though, but for the X2s I'd personally recommend manuals after having tried both (I have Janty eGo batteries, but it's the same idea).
You're welcome! I'm happy to be at any help!
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I'm in a similar situation as u...I just ordered a couple vision spinners, they have 1300 mah, and variable voltages!
I think, I understand about the manual batteries now.....So I would get a better hit off it right away and I wouldn't get nic juice in it right?
I am a nurse in the intensive care unit and I'm surprised by how many Dr's know nothing about e cigs. I did talk to a pulmonologist, (lung doctor) though who reccomends them for his patients so they must be better than real smokes. I was just unsure of how much nicotine I was consuming in my pask a day habit and where to start with these. The 6 mg I have now makes lots of vapor and tastes good but I find myself using it more often than it seems I should. I want to quit smoking real cigs very bad......hope this works.
ps love your photo
I am a nurse in the intensive care unit and I'm surprised by how many Dr's know nothing about e cigs. I did talk to a pulmonologist, (lung doctor) though who reccomends them for his patients so they must be better than real smokes. I was just unsure of how much nicotine I was consuming in my pask a day habit and where to start with these. The 6 mg I have now makes lots of vapor and tastes good but I find myself using it more often than it seems I should. I want to quit smoking real cigs very bad......hope this works.
ps love your photo
Over stim...the spinners are from volt too right? I didn't know what the variable voltage was all about.. My life is complicated and I kinda want to keed my cigs simple. Let me know how it goes......
Yes, this is my experience. And it creates warmer and fuller vapor a lot faster. I even do primer puffs on my manual batteries, so an automatic battery tend to not fulfill my needs.
Yeah, e-cigs aren't that well known by people who won't get involved in it directly. Lung doctors, people working in bars and restaurants and TSA agents are mostly the only non-vapers that will know about it. If that lung doctor recommends them for his patients, I'd say it's a pretty good indicator to the relative safety of e-cigs. I've seen x-ray photos of lungs of long term cigarette smokers before and after having used e-cigs instead, and their lungs clear up and function better, so I think it's fair to say they're healthier for your lungs, at least.
I can understand it's a little difficult to know which nicotine level to choose. In that sense it was probably wise of you to start off lower rather than higher. However, from the experience by my friends who quit smoking cigarettes, 18mg seems to be a good bench mark, so if 12mg doesn't do it for you, I don't think you should be afraid to try 18mg. You'll have your cigarette habit gone in no time, just you wait
Haha, thank you!
Volt have one that is called Spinner, which I linked to in an earlier post. Variable voltage means that it lets you choose which voltage output your battery will give, enabling you to play around with how warm the vapor will be and how strong it will hit.
It is a little bit more complicated, so a little bit of research is recommended, but it's a fairly easy concept to get the hang of. The vaporizer in the cartomizer will have a certain resistance, which regulates how easy it will heat up. If the cartomizer has a higher resistance (measured in ohm), it will make it harder for it to heat up. In this case you need a higher voltage to let you achieve the same amount of vapor. A Variable Voltage battery has a dial/wheel that let's you set it to the specific voltage you need, beyond the 3.7 volts of a standard battery. So in some cases, a standard battery may not have enough power to heat up the cartomizers sufficiently, leading to a weaker vape. But you shouldn't have to worry about this. The X2 should suit the empty cartos on the Smokeless Image website just fine, along with the current cartos that you have.
Yes, there's a Vision eGo Spinner, but Smokeless Image have their own Spinner too, with an 808 connection. It's probably manufactured by Vision too, sure, but there you go... two different SpinnersVision makes the Spinner
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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/faq.php?faq=vb3_user_profile#faq_vb3_signatures_avatars
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Yes, there's a Vision eGo Spinner, but Smokeless Image have their own Spinner too, with an 808 connection. It's probably manufactured by Vision too, sure, but there you go... two different Spinners
I didn't know that. So it has an 808 connection?
Yeah, at least it looks like it from the pictures: Smokeless Image | The Best Electronic Cigarette
That is an 808 connection, isn't it? I don't use 808-devices, so it's probably good to get that confirmed. Haha.
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