the drop on the PTs seems to vary a bit, i have some from TW that are really bad, one from janty thats ok, and 2 from heavens-gift are working correct too.
Battery Voltages -- Surprise!
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Fascinating results. But I think I have to disagree with the conclusion, at least on a purely subjective level. If Joye delivers all their 510 batteries with 3.1 volt only, that is probably for a reason, I thought. So I did some entirely subjective test vapes, with 510 mega batteries, a KR8 38mAh battery (my only non-510), adapters, and 510 and 901 atties. The 901 I until now vaped on 510 batteries, with an adapter, since so far I have only found one flavour I prefer in them.
The results were:
Vanilla tastes significantly better on standard 510, that is the 3.1 volt, than on the KR8 battery with 3,7.
Spearmint tastes OK on the KR8, but I think I would prefer it on standard 510. Not much of a difference, though.
KML+Cappuchino tasted vastly different on 510 and KR8, and it was very good on both.
The 901 performed noticably warmer and slightly harsher on the KR8, which does deliver the 3,7 the 901 is made for. Since the flavour in it is Parma Violet, though, which is quite touchy, I will probably keep vaping at least that one on a 510. That is consciously lower voltage, though, and I was going to get myself more 901 atties, anyway, and will check with other flavours again.
(I've also tried the KR8 cartos on the 510. They still burn my tongue. But that's a different subject.)
So actually, for me at least, those results are yet another reason not to get a mod. I think I prefer the 3.1v, although I sure will do some more testing. That is of course just my personal conclusion atm.
The results were:
Vanilla tastes significantly better on standard 510, that is the 3.1 volt, than on the KR8 battery with 3,7.
Spearmint tastes OK on the KR8, but I think I would prefer it on standard 510. Not much of a difference, though.
KML+Cappuchino tasted vastly different on 510 and KR8, and it was very good on both.
The 901 performed noticably warmer and slightly harsher on the KR8, which does deliver the 3,7 the 901 is made for. Since the flavour in it is Parma Violet, though, which is quite touchy, I will probably keep vaping at least that one on a 510. That is consciously lower voltage, though, and I was going to get myself more 901 atties, anyway, and will check with other flavours again.
(I've also tried the KR8 cartos on the 510. They still burn my tongue. But that's a different subject.)
So actually, for me at least, those results are yet another reason not to get a mod. I think I prefer the 3.1v, although I sure will do some more testing. That is of course just my personal conclusion atm.
I measure the resistance of the wires at 0.5 ohms on a TW PT (could be 0.4 to 0.6).
Does the wire look different on the HG ones?
Alex - a 901 mouthpiece with slight shaving fits an 808D-1 carto and stops the burnt tongue.
Maybe these new findings will result in special "real" 3.7V and 6V atomizers with higher resistance, that produce more vapor without losing taste. I would definitely buy some special 510/3.7V atomizers for my BB and Chameleon.
Hey Scott,
I thought that V4L had just changed thier batteries recently?
I know I got a couple from there for my wife and they seem diff than one she got free with an order from V4L. I think they might be diff than Kangor, no?
You mean like
3x EM5-HV (510) Atomiser - Bulk @ $5.90 pc - Black - EM High Voltage Atomizer - Eastmall International Co.,Ltd ? (6 volt)
I haven't tried them.
Honestly I don't know.. but Leaford might be able to shed some light on it. I thought for the most part they were only playing with cutoff times while still working with the same factory. But I certainly could be mistaken.
Have you tried the SLB 510 (L2 - clone) atties? They have "901 class" resistance and are probably pretty close to what you are looking for.
Ralph,
You must admit, dropping .5V (~.7W) doesn't help the effective battery life one bit. That's pretty substantial in the overall scheme of things.
No, I never heard about SLB or L2 before. Maybe this brand names are not common in Germany and Europe. Do you know an european retailer, where I can get them?
the ECIS Expert510 from Joye 510, DSE 801, DSE 901, J118, elekrtisch rauchen, e rauchen, e zigi, e-zigi - Home has a higher resistance, i read 2.8ohm opposed to the 2.2ohm my joye510 have. i had one for a little review i did
the J510 could be the SLB/JSB version, not sure about that. the different atomizers are on the site under Joye 510, DSE 801, DSE 901, J118, elekrtisch rauchen, e rauchen, e zigi, e-zigi - verdampfer, dse, 801,901, j118
*seems its about time to create our own usergroup from germany *GGG*
the J510 could be the SLB/JSB version, not sure about that. the different atomizers are on the site under Joye 510, DSE 801, DSE 901, J118, elekrtisch rauchen, e rauchen, e zigi, e-zigi - verdampfer, dse, 801,901, j118
*seems its about time to create our own usergroup from germany *GGG*
Thank you for the info! I had found some of this information after doing some hunting myself. However, my question is will the Kr8 batteries, with or without an adaptor, charge in a PCC device that is made for 510 batteries?
Thanks again!
Not if real 510 batteries are like the 510 disposable batteries I have.
The 510 disposables I have need only an external 5V power source for charging; this is because the charging circuitry is built into the battery. KR808-Dx batteries do not have any internal charge circuitry, so hooking them up to a 5V supply (510 charger) will destroy the battery.
EDIT: I see that the 510 disposable USB charger is stated as being for the disposables only. This probably means that real 510 batteries need external charging curcuitry like the KR808-Dx do.
So you should be able to charge the KR with the 510 PCC. If you have the ability, I would check the charging voltage of the PCC and make sure it's 4.2V and not 5V just to be safe.
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The Expert 510 is the Boge/Dekang (the liquid folks) clone. The same manufacturer of most of the rechargeable disposables that are floating around. Don't know why but their abreviation is usually JKY and 'ECIS' is also a brand name for Boge/Dekang liquids.
The J510 should be JSB (not SLB/DSE), those of the 'Winning' lines and makers of the BLU/Volcano e-cig.
SLB's DSE 510 (StrictlyEjuice's infamous L2) packaging is also a clone of Joye's. E-zigi.de does not appear to be selling this clone.
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Kranger's KR Universal (push in) USB charger charges Joye 510 batts quite well.
Well, me being me, when I got my (only) KR8 battery, I put on the adapter and screwed it into my 510 multi-charger. So far it has survived without any noticeable damage.
I personally haven't had any problems with charging my KR batteries.. on the adapter... on my 510 chargers.
Actually.. the only "KR808D-1" chargers that I own are the PCC and one of those universal silicone-sleeve USB mini chargers (which charges just about anything and everything).
Actually.. the only "KR808D-1" chargers that I own are the PCC and one of those universal silicone-sleeve USB mini chargers (which charges just about anything and everything).
"KR808-Dx batteries do not have any internal charge circuitry, so hooking them up to a 5V supply (510 charger) will destroy the battery."
First time I have heard that. The only thing close to that I have heard is
"1amp (1000ma) is best for running a passthrough or a mod with a charging cable that isn't a passthrough but acts like one"
from Kent C
First time I have heard that. The only thing close to that I have heard is
"1amp (1000ma) is best for running a passthrough or a mod with a charging cable that isn't a passthrough but acts like one"
from Kent C
And I doubt that you'll hear it again. I believe the poster made an error.. assuming that standard 510 chargers are like the ones that come with the disposables.
No sir, I did not make an error.
Hook one of your KR batteries up to a 5V power supply, go to bed, then see if your neighbors are kind enough to call the fire department when your house catches on fire.
The KR batteries REQUIRE an external SMART charger, not just a 5V supply. The disposable 510 batteries have a crude internal charge circuit that only requires an external 5V power supply.
The only mistake I made was assuming regular 510 batteries were like this as well. Now I know they are similar to KR batteries.
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