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[sherwood865]

Today I saw a barrage of articles come out that stated e-cigarettes are not effective for helping people quit smoking. I have to disagree because they are the most effective way that I've ever tried and have keep me off those nasties ever since I started vaping. It seems lately the news media has been putting out a lot of stories based on sensationalism instead of facts, so I've created a new movement that will help give everyone the facts. This movement is going to require everyone's participation in order to be effective in showing the media and everyone else around the world that e-cigarettes do in fact help people quit smoking. Today is the time to take a stand and start fighting for our right to vape. Today is the day to put an end to all of the misleading irresponsible reporting that is going on in mainstream media. Today is the day to let our voices be heard!

Take part in the #IAM ONE movement today! Here are the details: #IAMONE Movement by Voice of Vapers

 

[DetraMental]

Posted my story.

 

[sherwood865]

Posted my story.

Thank you for sharing your story! Every story that is shared by someone who was able to effectively quit smoking thanks to e-cigarettes will go a long way in making a difference when the media posts these stories about these made up studies that say e-cigs are ineffective. I know they work #IAMONE

 

[Sikko]

I think that getting all these little spliter groups set up is good and all, but may be dividing vapers more than unifying them.

There is the #IMPROOF movement as well. No offense but I think we need to show a unified front rather than many small fronts. Just my 2 cents.

If you haven't already, please become a member of CASAA. It's free to join and just takes a moment.

 

[Onion]

This is great. We need to see more of this. And many of us need to do more... I, myself am only just recently trying to become more involved and often wonder how we can prevent more of this from happening. While fighting the ridiculous legislation after they are already written at hearings is one way and is still important but I believe if we if we actually organized to fight for some regulation and provided suggested legislation guidelines (Essentially lobbying, yes I know... but even informal forms of this could really only help.) we could come out of this better off. There are regulations and legislation we are for... of course we against underage promotion or sale, most of us would agree there shouldn't be vaping in schools and that only certain standards should be taken to maintain sanitary clean rooms and deternine what goes into our e-liquid... but only by being proactive can we stop politicians uneducated on the subject and the uneducated masses who blindly follow them, educated only by scare tactic media reports, prevent vaping from being lumped in with tobacco regulation and be a part of building the laws that will directly affect us in the near future.

 

[DetraMental]

Sikko I am a member of CASAA but I'm gonna spread the word whenever and wherever I can.

 

[happydave]

i fail to understand why we need to tell people that e-cigs helped us quit smoking analogs.
this is not a good strategy for a few different reasons.
1: The People we are dealing with do not really care what you do to your body, they say, great you quit smoking! wow what do you want a gold star? you should not have been smoking in the first place.
2: If we keep telling The People that e-cigs helped us quit smoking analogs sooner or later they will figure out that tax revenue is being lost and try to tax e-cigs. this is whats going on right now in lots of states.
3: If we keep telling The People that e-cigs helped us quit smoking and this is a good thing because e-cigs are safe when you have no REAL HARD EVIDENCE (and i know you do not, so dont try to convince me) only makes us look real stupid. we are on the edge of an emerging technology there will be things that come up that will cause us to take a step back and address some serious issues with the safety of these devices most of the devices you use every day like your cell phone, stove, microwave can cause serious damage to your heath and the design has been improved and revised over the years to make a safer product.. at one point in time cars did not have seat belts or air bags... calling an e-cig "safe" is about the most idiotic thing i have ever heard.

 

[jball49]

i fail to understand why we need to tell people that e-cigs helped us quit smoking analogs.
this is not a good strategy for a few different reasons.
1: The People we are dealing with do not really care what you do to your body, they say, great you quit smoking! wow what do you want a gold star? you should not have been smoking in the first place.
2: If we keep telling The People that e-cigs helped us quit smoking analogs sooner or later they will figure out that tax revenue is being lost and try to tax e-cigs. this is whats going on right now in lots of states.
3: If we keep telling The People that e-cigs helped us quit smoking and this is a good thing because e-cigs are safe when you have no REAL HARD EVIDENCE (and i know you do not, so dont try to convince me) only makes us look real stupid. we are on the edge of an emerging technology there will be things that come up that will cause us to take a step back and address some serious issues with the safety of these devices most of the devices you use every day like your cell phone, stove, microwave have can cause serious damage to your heath and the design has been improved and revised over the years to make a safer product.. at one point in time cars did not have seat belts or air bags... calling an e-cig "safe" is about the most idiotic thing i have ever heard.

CAASA which has a section on the forum DOES have a study based on the chemistry of the liquid used that states it is safe.
I also recommend that sherwood865 check out CAASA and sign up with them! They are an action group fighting against new taxes and regulations in all states in the US!

 

[happydave]

CAASA which has a section on the forum DOES have a study based on the chemistry of the liquid used that states it is safe.
I also recommend that sherwood865 check out CAASA and sign up with them! They are an action group fighting against new taxes and regulations in all states in the US!

LOL yeah its safe as long as it sits on a shelf... if you are inhaling anything but clean fresh air it will come with some risks.

 

[Ryedan]

LOL yeah its safe as long as it sits on a shelf... if you are inhaling anything but clean fresh air it will come with some risks.

Suggest you head on over to the CASAA website and check out the information on vaping they have there. If you're going to talk about the dangers of vaping, you might want to educate yourself about it. Or continue to talk crap. Your choice.

 

[Ryedan]

I think that getting all these little spliter groups set up is good and all, but may be dividing vapers more than unifying them.

There is the #IMPROOF movement as well. No offense but I think we need to show a unified front rather than many small fronts. Just my 2 cents.

If you haven't already, please become a member of CASAA. It's free to join and just takes a moment.

I hear what you're saying Sikko, but I don't really see this as a splinter group. We can tell our stories, in several places if we wish to do that and also join CASAA. IMO it's all good.

 

[RogerGuiles]

Good point, Ryedan. I just joined CASAA and this forum because of a story on the news tonight regarding the horror of vapeing.

 

[leong jenny]

Another positive story!

 

[Bontasia]

i fail to understand why we need to tell people that e-cigs helped us quit smoking analogs.
this is not a good strategy for a few different reasons.
1: The People we are dealing with do not really care what you do to your body, they say, great you quit smoking! wow what do you want a gold star? you should not have been smoking in the first place.
2: If we keep telling The People that e-cigs helped us quit smoking analogs sooner or later they will figure out that tax revenue is being lost and try to tax e-cigs. this is whats going on right now in lots of states.
3: If we keep telling The People that e-cigs helped us quit smoking and this is a good thing because e-cigs are safe when you have no REAL HARD EVIDENCE (and i know you do not, so dont try to convince me) only makes us look real stupid. we are on the edge of an emerging technology there will be things that come up that will cause us to take a step back and address some serious issues with the safety of these devices most of the devices you use every day like your cell phone, stove, microwave can cause serious damage to your heath and the design has been improved and revised over the years to make a safer product.. at one point in time cars did not have seat belts or air bags... calling an e-cig "safe" is about the most idiotic thing i have ever heard.

I'm not an expert by any stretch but I feel the need to respond to this.

E-cigs are a BILLION dollar business - if you don't think that there are pleeeenty of people sitting on the top floor of their respective corporate high-rise buildings and government offices just rubbing their hands together and smiling as the potential profits dance around in their heads you are sadly mistaken.

We aren't flying under any radar it's just a matter of time before the hammer drops and suggesting we just stand in the back of the room and be really, really quiet is asinine.

The secret's out and the jig is up. These things WORK. They make people stop buying cigarettes and that is REALLY REALLY bad news to a LOT of really wealthy people.

We DO need to band together now before the FDA makes whatever rulings it's gonna make, before government officials are bought and before 90% of the vendors are shut down by insane laws that have no regard for our health, just their pocketbooks.

To address your final point, I don't think you are gonna find very many people who don't want more studies done. I know I'd like to see some long-term studies done to see if they find anything. That being said, I'd bet every penny I have to my name that there is NO WAY that anything they find is going to be anything CLOSE to as bad as real cigarettes. And if it weren't for vaping I'd still be smoking the 2 packs a day that I smoked for decades. And I've heard HUNDREDS of people say the same thing. That's all I need to know to be sure I'm on the right side of the fence on this.

 

[FireDragon1138]

I support CASAA because they are working on pushing the message of "tobacco harm reduction", which is something most people have not encountered as a concept. E-cigs fit into that, but so does smokeless tobacco and even nicotine replacement therapy.

 

[stratster]

Suggest you head on over to the CASAA website and check out the information on vaping they have there. If you're going to talk about the dangers of vaping, you might want to educate yourself about it. Or continue to talk crap. Your choice.

From the CASAA website: "While anything containing nicotine cannot be called 100% safe, evidence from numerous studies strongly suggests that they are magnitudes safer than tobacco cigarettes." (my bold)

I believe that this was happydave's point...

 

[BigCatDaddy]

i fail to understand why we need to tell people that e-cigs helped us quit smoking analogs.
this is not a good strategy for a few different reasons.
1: The People we are dealing with do not really care what you do to your body, they say, great you quit smoking! wow what do you want a gold star? you should not have been smoking in the first place.
2: If we keep telling The People that e-cigs helped us quit smoking analogs sooner or later they will figure out that tax revenue is being lost and try to tax e-cigs. this is whats going on right now in lots of states.
3: If we keep telling The People that e-cigs helped us quit smoking and this is a good thing because e-cigs are safe when you have no REAL HARD EVIDENCE (and i know you do not, so dont try to convince me) only makes us look real stupid. we are on the edge of an emerging technology there will be things that come up that will cause us to take a step back and address some serious issues with the safety of these devices most of the devices you use every day like your cell phone, stove, microwave can cause serious damage to your heath and the design has been improved and revised over the years to make a safer product.. at one point in time cars did not have seat belts or air bags... calling an e-cig "safe" is about the most idiotic thing i have ever heard.

Dang Happy Dave, who pi**ed in your Wheaties??I love me some vape and I'll tell everybody who will listen about the benefits of same!!

 

[Mousey]

Dang Happy Dave, who pi**ed in your Wheaties??I love me some vape and I'll tell everybody who will listen about the benefits of same!!

I was just about to ask the same question, Who stuck the rod up his backside?
If more and more people get into Vaping and we approach a kind of "Critical Mass" type of statistic, we could yell so loud about regulation and taxation that governments would find it impossible to ignore us... But that's my whole "New Vape World Order" fantasy playing out in my head

 

[coalyard]

i fail to understand why we need to tell people that e-cigs helped us quit smoking analogs.
this is not a good strategy for a few different reasons.
1: The People we are dealing with do not really care what you do to your body, they say, great you quit smoking! wow what do you want a gold star? you should not have been smoking in the first place.
2: If we keep telling The People that e-cigs helped us quit smoking analogs sooner or later they will figure out that tax revenue is being lost and try to tax e-cigs. this is whats going on right now in lots of states.
3: If we keep telling The People that e-cigs helped us quit smoking and this is a good thing because e-cigs are safe when you have no REAL HARD EVIDENCE (and i know you do not, so dont try to convince me) only makes us look real stupid. we are on the edge of an emerging technology there will be things that come up that will cause us to take a step back and address some serious issues with the safety of these devices most of the devices you use every day like your cell phone, stove, microwave can cause serious damage to your heath and the design has been improved and revised over the years to make a safer product.. at one point in time cars did not have seat belts or air bags... calling an e-cig "safe" is about the most idiotic thing i have ever heard.

Ok, then what should be done? Besides just [MODERATED] about it. Any ideas?

 

[Sikko]

IMO the best thing to do is be active. Read the legislation forum, keep up to date. Read the Media forum, post replies to the articles that are coming out all the time bashing vaping. Try to educate people you interact with. Send e-mails and make calls when there is a piece of legislation that needs to be stopped. When your voice is added to everyone elses it becomes something that the politicians can't ignore.