Beginners luck ?

[VpnDrgn]

So I got tired of waiting for an AGA-T2 to be in stock, at least at a reasonable price anyways,
and I ordered an AGA-T. It finally came in the mail today and I jumped right in.

This is the very first coil I have ever wrapped, of any kind, and it went fairly well.
I am using 400 SS mesh with ribbon Kanthal. The mesh is only about 1 1/2" square, and
I had to get fairly forceful to get it rolled down thin enough to insert in wick hole and it
still had what I thought was a fairly large hole down the center.

I have read where others said the ribbon wire was springy enough to be a problem while wrapping
coils. If anything, I probably wrapped mine a little tight. The main problem i had was tightening
the positive nut without the hole assembly trying to spin and pull the wick up against the positive
poll.



I kind of went half and half between the oxidized method and the pulse method. I torched the mesh
enough to clean it and torched it a little after rolling to clean off any oils and residue from my fingers.
I torched the ribbon wire before wrapping, and then carefully pulsed the mod while working the coils
to try to work out any hotspots. This went fairly easily, but I noticed a hotspot right by the negative
screw after juicing the wick. Nudging it just a little seem to work this out.

My next coil will prolly be 4 wraps instead of 3 since it is a little warm for me. The vapor is outstanding,
though the flavor is no better than a carto, maybe even a little worse. I'll give it a couple of tanks before
passing judgement on flavor though, since I didn't fully oxidize and do a juice burn. I hear unoxidized wicks
have to work in a little before the flavor starts to come through.

One question though, do regular users cut back on the nicotine for genisis style atties? After just 5 or 6
vapes, I started to get a nicotine headache.

 

[jasl90]

Yep... Cutting back the nic level is pretty common. A well built genisis can consume quite a bit more juice per vape than a normal carto.

 

[VpnDrgn]

Thanks jasl90; another question, I have used 70/30 pg/vg juice exclusively since my first order
of 100% pg gave me hardly any vapor at all, would straight pg give better vapor on a genisis?

I seem to recall PG gave a much stronger, crisper flavor; just poor vapor, especially in a carto.

 

[jasl90]

General rule of thumb... VG makes more vapor. PG delivers better flavor.
PG is thinner than VG so it should wick better.
Personally... I've been using 50/50 juices for over a year so I don't have a lot of experience with either one w/o the other.
As far as getting better vapor from a Genisis... It really depends on your setup. RBAs in general give you the option to create a wick and coil that will out perform anything you can buy pre built. They also give you the option to build a wick and coil that performs like crap.
The key is to play with different setups. Try different combinations of wire, wicks & coils to see what suits you.

 

[brolaf]

Thanks jasl90; another question, I have used 70/30 pg/vg juice exclusively since my first order
of 100% pg gave me hardly any vapor at all, would straight pg give better vapor on a genisis?

I seem to recall PG gave a much stronger, crisper flavor; just poor vapor, especially in a carto.

Nicely done! Great result for a first coil. As for juice, i guess as a rule of thumb VG always gives more vapor. the only thing to watch out for is wicking. I use 325 ss mesh (instead of 400); the bigger holes allow for a better VG wick. also, i normally use a 2" square wick or larger. it's a chore to roll, but this eliminates the hole in the center. (i haven't drilled out my wick hole, btw)

also, i didn't change my nic level when i shifted to RBAs. if i felt i was getting too much of a TH, i'd just take down the voltage. and fortunately, haven't had any nic headaches.

i'm just curious, why did you start with a ribbon coil? instead of like a 30 gauge single coil? i haven't tried ribbon yet cos single coils have been working well for me.

 

[KraKsX]

What size ribbon did you use?

My first setup went very well, like yours did. I think it's more about the person, and understanding.
Also I found ribbon wire to be easier to use. Iv been using .8x.2 & getting killer clouds

 

[VpnDrgn]

i'm just curious, why did you start with a ribbon coil? instead of like a 30 gauge single coil? i haven't tried ribbon yet cos single coils have been working well for me.

Not sure what you meant by comparing "ribbon coil" to "single coil", they both wrap around the wick in the same way.
The ribbon wire is just flat and has more surface area.

I heard a lot of good things about ribbon wire and I figured it would be easier to see and a little
more robust when wrapping the coil. I'm starting to get a little near sighted.
I got mine from COV, they carry .02"x.004", 10 meters for only $10.

I have been vaping for almost 3 years now. I jumped pretty quick from atties to cartos. Atties always seemed to
have a metallic taste. I tried CE2's when they came out but got frustrated with the inconsistent wicking.
I have been strictly cartos and carto tanks every since.

Way back when, I started with 100% PG juices ( mixed ratios weren't common back then ), and the flavor was great,
but there was pretty much NO vapor on the exhale. I know part of that was because I was using a carto.
I think I remember a video on a genisis set up where the guy was blowing clouds and said he was using PG juice.

I plan on get some lower nic juices and wondered if it might be worth it to get some 100% PG as well.