Beginning dripping./RDAs...

[GoBlue88]

I bought enough ejuice at my local store that I got a 25$ store credit and am considering a foray into RBA/dripping. I'm hoping for some insights regarding an RBA that I am considering. For reference I currently vape an I-stick 30W at 10-12 watts and Subtank nano using the 1.3 ohm coils. I vary the airflow between two of the middle settings (not wide open but not the smallest hole either) I vape almost exclusively fruit vapes (space jam) and like a relatively cool vape. At the described conditions with 6mg nic I get a great throat hit, cool vapor, and appropriate clouds (I'm not chasing clouds, just the flavor and throat hit).

So, all that being said, I'm considering the freak show mini RDA. I really like the low profile of the RDA, and generally see good reviews. However I have a few questions regarding this particular RDA:

-Will I be able to retain a relatively cool vape (not really interested in piping hot strawberry vapor)

-are there two editions of the freak show RDA mini? I see it sometimes referenced as the "sub ohm freak show RDA mini" then other times the term "sub ohm" is omitted from the title

-can I add juice to this RDA without dissembling the RDA? I've seen someone take their RDA apart to add ejuice and it was really messy in comparison to those I've seen adding juice directly into the open mouth of the RDA.

-I can't vape at work and the mod (I-stick 30w) and the RDA need to be able to ride in a breast pocket without leaking, is this a concern?

-based on the profile of what i described about myself above, would this particular RDA be a good choice for me? If not, do you have another suggestion?

Thanks in advance for the insights and recommendations.


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[madangus]

I just started dripping too and folks recommended the vector and the stumpy, both are pretty leak resistant. The vector was pretty easy for me to build on, thats what i hear about the stumpy.

Vector authentic is a bargain too, avail lots of places. The stumpy is from elementmods.com, $90,

I heard the freakshow is good, i woukd check a bunch of the youtube reviews.. They will probably mention airflow and heat and such.

Tugboat or the production are also mentioned as good beginner drippers cause they are easy to build, from flawlessvapes,com

 

[satchvai]

I started with a Dark Horse. Huge holes in the post for trying to learn. I use a freak show full size as my main RDA. With a chuff cap, you can drop without having to remove the top piece. Though I'm running my RDAs on a Sig150. Regarding coolness of cape, depends on your coil build. If you're wanting something at work, you may want to invest in a good Sub-ohm tank. Easier to deal with during the workday.

 

[ElevenEleven]

If I'm carrying a mod with a dripper I make sure to vape it (somewhat) dry before I shove it into my pocket. That way there is no excess liquid in the drip well. There are RDA's like the Sapor and Aelous that have a top airflow design to further help against leaking. Any RDA that takes its airflow from the bottom is prone to leaking.

"Project Sub-Ohm" is a branding. "Sub-Ohm" or not, its probably the same. As far as I know there is the full size Freakshow and Freakshow mini.

Take apart the RDA? As in remove the top cap? If so, some RDA's function that way so that you can properly juice the wick(s), while with others you can simply drip through the drip tip/top cap.

 

[nkr501]

The Freakshow is supposed to be pretty nice. There are only two versions that I know of. The standard sized one and the mini. I don't know of many differences other than size. I'm pretty sure that the "Project Sub Ohm" version is just an aesthetic difference. Maybe they use different materials, but it does the exact same thing.

Getting a warm vs cool vape is going to depend on how you build you coils and your wattage.

Like Brandon said, you can vape it nearly dry or you might want to consider a dripper with air holes at the top. The mini probably isn't going to have huge juice wells, so leaking might be a concern as it shifts around.

If you have enough wick in your RDA you should be able to drip strait down the tip. Most people take them apart to watch how much juice goes into them. Its only really messy if you don't pay attention and add too much juice.

 

[Darth Omerta]

Before worrying about which RDA to get, there is lots to know about battery safety and Ohms Law. Check out @Baditude blog! All the necessary information is there!

That said....

I started with a Dark Horse. Huge holes in the post for trying to learn. I use a freak show full size as my main RDA. With a chuff cap, you can drop without having to remove the top piece. Though I'm running my RDAs on a Sig150. Regarding coolness of cape, depends on your coil build. If you're wanting something at work, you may want to invest in a good Sub-ohm tank. Easier to deal with during the workday.

I also started with the Dark Horse! Great little atty! Still my main atty(we will see if the Rampage changes that).

Rebuilding is great fun and provides a great vape, but it would be MUCH easier to get yourself a sub ohm tank or any topper for that matter. They will be mich more low maintenance while on the go+

 

[GoBlue88]

I just started dripping too and folks recommended the vector and the stumpy, both are pretty leak resistant. The vector was pretty easy for me to build on, thats what i hear about the stumpy.

Vector authentic is a bargain too, avail lots of places. The stumpy is from elementmods.com, $90,

I heard the freakshow is good, i woukd check a bunch of the youtube reviews.. They will probably mention airflow and heat and such.

Tugboat or the production are also mentioned as good beginner drippers cause they are easy to build, from flawlessvapes,com

I'll look hard at the vector, I see that has vertical air holes so I imagine that would help with leaking. Do you have to take the top cap off to add juice or can you add juice directly through the mouthpiece?
Thanks for your thoughts


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[GoBlue88]

I started with a Dark Horse. Huge holes in the post for trying to learn. I use a freak show full size as my main RDA. With a chuff cap, you can drop without having to remove the top piece. Though I'm running my RDAs on a Sig150. Regarding coolness of cape, depends on your coil build. If you're wanting something at work, you may want to invest in a good Sub-ohm tank. Easier to deal with during the workday.

That's good to hear regarding coil resistance to determine coolness. And as I mentioned I'll be running this on an I stick 30w at least for now do I can control the wattage pretty well. I don't have an interest in massive clouds, great flavor without piping hot vapor is my aim.

Really I'm considering an RDA "just because". I do already have a Subtank nano that I can run sub ohm coils in if need be, but I've never felt the need.

Thanks for your advice


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[GoBlue88]

If I'm carrying a mod with a dripper I make sure to vape it (somewhat) dry before I shove it into my pocket. That way there is no excess liquid in the drip well. There are RDA's like the Sapor and Aelous that have a top airflow design to further help against leaking. Any RDA that takes its airflow from the bottom is prone to leaking.

"Project Sub-Ohm" is a branding. "Sub-Ohm" or not, its probably the same. As far as I know there is the full size Freakshow and Freakshow mini.

Take apart the RDA? As in remove the top cap? If so, some RDA's function that way so that you can properly juice the wick(s), while with others you can simply drip through the drip tip/top cap.

That Sapor might be the ticket, it looks sleek and is $30 on vaporDNA. Do you happen to know if you can add ejuice through the drip tip?

Thanks for the advice


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[Fantazmagoricl]

I recommend the troll rda its cheap and easy to build on, this was my 1st dripper. It also produces great flavour and has plenty of air flow for clouds, you can also drip down the chuff cap (sold separately) if you don't want to take the top cap off to re-juice.

 

[GoBlue88]

The Freakshow is supposed to be pretty nice. There are only two versions that I know of. The standard sized one and the mini. I don't know of many differences other than size. I'm pretty sure that the "Project Sub Ohm" version is just an aesthetic difference. Maybe they use different materials, but it does the exact same thing.

Getting a warm vs cool vape is going to depend on how you build you coils and your wattage.

Like Brandon said, you can vape it nearly dry or you might want to consider a dripper with air holes at the top. The mini probably isn't going to have huge juice wells, so leaking might be a concern as it shifts around.

If you have enough wick in your RDA you should be able to drip strait down the tip. Most people take them apart to watch how much juice goes into them. Its only really messy if you don't pay attention and add too much juice.

Based on yours/the others above insights I think I'll only be considering top airflow designs from here on out. I would prefer to add juice without disassembly, so I'll try to narrow my search in that regard as well.


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[GoBlue88]

Before worrying about which RDA to get, there is lots to know about battery safety and Ohms Law. Check out @Baditude blog! All the necessary information is there!

That said....



I also started with the Dark Horse! Great little atty! Still my main atty(we will see if the Rampage changes that).

Rebuilding is great fun and provides a great vape, but it would be MUCH easier to get yourself a sub ohm tank or any topper for that matter. They will be mich more low maintenance while on the go+

Thanks for the input. I am a chemical engineer so I have some background in the physics of electricity, but I probably should review. I do already have a Subtank nano, so this is about the tinkering for me.

Thanks for your advice


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[madangus]

I'll look hard at the vector, I see that has vertical air holes so I imagine that would help with leaking. Do you have to take the top cap off to add juice or can you add juice directly through the mouthpiece?
Thanks for your thoughts

I just drip straight into it pointing the dropper at an angle, only ever take the mouthpiece off to check on the coils or such. I'm still getting into the groove of learning it all, nice thing you can drip in like a dripper full (30 ml bottle sized dripper) at a time and it won't complain. Haven't had it leak once on me yet, and i have knocked it on its side a few times.

 

[madangus]

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[GoBlue88]

Looks like I'll be picking up a Sapor, thanks for the advice folks.


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[ElevenEleven]

That Sapor might be the ticket, it looks sleek and is $30 on vaporDNA. Do you happen to know if you can add ejuice through the drip tip?

Thanks for the advice


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You definitely can with the wide bore drip tip it comes with.

 

[GoBlue88]

Thanks folks, off to the RDA./coil building forum


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[edyle]

I bought enough ejuice at my local store that I got a 25$ store credit and am considering a foray into RBA/dripping. I'm hoping for some insights regarding an RBA that I am considering. For reference I currently vape an I-stick 30W at 10-12 watts and Subtank nano using the 1.3 ohm coils. I vary the airflow between two of the middle settings (not wide open but not the smallest hole either) I vape almost exclusively fruit vapes (space jam) and like a relatively cool vape. At the described conditions with 6mg nic I get a great throat hit, cool vapor, and appropriate clouds (I'm not chasing clouds, just the flavor and throat hit).

So, all that being said, I'm considering the freak show mini RDA. I really like the low profile of the RDA, and generally see good reviews. However I have a few questions regarding this particular RDA:

-Will I be able to retain a relatively cool vape (not really interested in piping hot strawberry vapor)

-are there two editions of the freak show RDA mini? I see it sometimes referenced as the "sub ohm freak show RDA mini" then other times the term "sub ohm" is omitted from the title

-can I add juice to this RDA without dissembling the RDA? I've seen someone take their RDA apart to add ejuice and it was really messy in comparison to those I've seen adding juice directly into the open mouth of the RDA.

-I can't vape at work and the mod (I-stick 30w) and the RDA need to be able to ride in a breast pocket without leaking, is this a concern?

-based on the profile of what i described about myself above, would this particular RDA be a good choice for me? If not, do you have another suggestion?

Thanks in advance for the insights and recommendations.


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An rda is a good thing for a vaper to have; for one thing, most rda's a very rugged/durable, so it's like a failsafe backup especially for when you regular device/devices has some silly problem you don't feel like dealing with at the time.

1: cool vape.
How cool vape a vape you get depends on your power source compared to the coil.
As for the coil, it's not only the ohms that matter, but also the wire gauge.

2: sub-ohm:
insulator materials are very important in tanks and drippers; it's important to have insulator material that will stand up to heat if such an event occurs.
Of course, anybody can describe a device as 'subohm' even if they have crappy insulators; just as a selling point; you can look up "peek" insulators.

3: adding juice:

most times you just remove the drip tip and drop/squirt juice down the hole.
Some rda's have a chuff cap, where you can take off just the top and get a good look at the inside without remove the whole topcap.

4: leaking.
leaking is an issue with rda's; they don't hold much to begin with, so most experienced rda users know how wet or dry their wick is anyway, and can often just vape off enough to ensure a dry enough wick that there is not a leak problem.
There are some interesting top-air-intake rda's such as the manta which are very leak resistant.

 

[edyle]

the sapor, has a chuff cap, and it has top-air-intake airflow.
Sapor RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer by Wotofo

can't post the pick; another one of those backward sites that think making it hard to post their pictures somehow makes it easier to sell their products.

 

[GoBlue88]

Thanks for the input all, I have a little more detailed question if anyone could be of assistance.

TLDR at the end of you hate novel length posts about first time RDA building/operation.

Say I build my coils to be 1.3 ohms, and my wattage to a desired range (probably 10-13 watts). Well that automatically sets my voltage because of using a regulated mod (I-stick 30w).

I know my i stick 30w can handle the wattage (because it's a 30w duh), but it tells me nothing about what the RDA I built can handle the wattage, or if it can handle the voltage that is automatically set by my mod.

I attached a picture with my desired set-up in terms of desired wattage and resistance, with the calculator telling me the corresponding voltage (4 volts) and current (3 amps).

As I mentioned, having come from prebuilt coils (occ 1.3's in a Subtank nano) I could just play around with the safe wattage range listed on the occ and be good to go. Now that I'm about to start running an RDA (Sapor) I'm not sure how to ensure that the voltage and current (amperage) will be safe/correct for the coil I build. As the RDA itself comes with no directions, I'm feeling pretty lost regarding safe operation of my RDA.

TLDR:
How do I know an amperage/voltage is safe for an RDA I built with a known resistance and known desired wattage. Sapor RDA on an I-stick 30w.

Thanks in advance for the responses

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