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[Chaser]

Okay so i also bought smoking everywhere, and i would love to get rid of them because i now have a dse901 and it is great. Is there anywhere i can sell the smoking everywhere ecigs? Also i would like to know about the carts and liquid associated with the dse 901.
Thanks

 

[lady9ball]

There's a classifieds forum way at the bottom of the forum list. You might be able to unload your unwanted items there.

 

[Porphy]

There's a classifieds forum way at the bottom of the forum list. You might be able to unload your unwanted items there.

LOL that's being nice about it. SmokingEverwhere products might sell but I know most folks here who have browsed around enough to find the classified section or who have had experience with SE previously won't touch them with a 10 foot pole.

I had a buddy who got scammed by them and after he got his 510 he ended up passing the SE cig over to a buddy who "wanted to try it out", after that friend got his 510 he passed it to a buddy who.... you get the idea. Last I checked that thing broke down after it's third "pass" and got trashed. (about 2 weeks worth of real use)

 

[Moonflame]

The liquid from any of the suppliers will work with the 901. You can order empty carts from anyone who sells the 901 and you can also refill the ones that came with your kit. You can use them over and over again.

Since you're just starting and don't know what flavors you will like it might be a good idea to find one of the suppliers that sells sampler packs and pick a bunch of flavors that sound good. You'll find you like some more than others so you order larger amounts of those later and if you find ones you hate you can sell them on the classifieds.

You'll also find that after a couple of days you stop tasting a flavor so much if you use it exclusively. Your taste buds get too used to it I think, but it will taste as good as it did when you first used it if you use a different flavor for a little while. I usually go in 4 day cycles. Chocolate flavors for a few days. Then Coffee flavors for a few days. Then Mint flavors for a few days. I'm looking forward to getting my 2nd mod so I can have 2 flavors loaded and ready all the time and I can vary it up during the day without having to switch atty's and carts.

 

[wv2win]

There are two members, the only two I know of, who think the SE gold is the best PV made: ProtoType and Jim Davis. I would PM them and see if they would buy it from you. Since they think it is the best PV made it will be interesting to see if they would be willing to take it off your hands. Let us know.

 

[Jim Davis]

Chaser;
As usual, there is a lot of false information floating around the Forum. Neither myself or Prototype has said that anything was the best thing going. I have never told anyone to buy a specific model. I only help people learn to vape with what they have. And more importantly, Prototype & I are beyond stooping so low as to insult any person or model of e-cig.

If a person already has a specific model, I help them when they have problems with it. I am not into the ignorant statements that will say to simply throw it away and buy another, and I leave the choice to you. I realize that some simply don't have the money to buy every model that's recommended.

So now I will say exactly what I say to *everyone* in your situation.

You're SE Gold is a 4081. Parts are inexpensive. If you decide to keep it, help is available at;
RN 4081 *Super Mini* - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat

If you decide to move on to bigger and better things, you may want to keep the SE as a backup in case you have any problems in the future.

As I stated earlier, the choice is *yours*, but if you want help with what you have, there are people who will help you, without judging you.

Cheers;
jd

 

[Porphy]

Jim it's not insulting a product if it's calling it as you see it. I can't imagine an inanimate object ever being insulted anyway.

SE's products/service/overall experience is shoddy and poor. That's how I've come to know the company and their product. That's not to say all 4081's are poor quality, I can't make a judgment on that as I've only come across them as SE products.

When you know how to drive, a Yugo is a poor substitute for a Camaro.

 

[Jim Davis]

Jim it's not insulting a product if it's calling it as you see it. I can't imagine an inanimate object ever being insulted anyway.

SE's products/service/overall experience is shoddy and poor. That's how I've come to know the company and their product. That's not to say all 4081's are poor quality, I can't make a judgment on that as I've only come across them as SE products.

When you know how to drive, a Yugo is a poor substitute for a Camaro.

Porphy;
This has nothing to do with anything you said. I agree 100% that Smoking Everywhere is a total rip off.

Here's my view;
If someone spends upward of $150.00 on an SE, I can't see them just throwing it away. Even though they spent way too much and can't return it, they can still use it to learn to vape, and they can keep it going inexpensively. I don't tell them what to do. I give them a choice.

By using it to learn, they can recover some of their losses. If they throw it away, it's a total loss.

It's not my call. I just offer the options. And I won't bash any decision a person makes.

What ever you decide is your choice. If you need a helping hand with anything, I'll gladly help out.

The heavy duty mods are nice. I don't use them myself. But I don't bash them either.

Cheers;
jd

 

[wv2win]

Jim it's not insulting a product if it's calling it as you see it. I can't imagine an inanimate object ever being insulted anyway.

SE's products/service/overall experience is shoddy and poor. That's how I've come to know the company and their product. That's not to say all 4081's are poor quality, I can't make a judgment on that as I've only come across them as SE products.

When you know how to drive, a Yugo is a poor substitute for a Camaro.

Good observation. I agree that if a person wants to keep the SE device, it's good to help them as much as possible. But I also believe it is NOT helping them if you don't let them know that they are not alone in feeling that this model does not work well. If you just tell them "we will help you learn how to vape with this device" they will feel like THEY are the problem and not the device. When all you say is YOU have to LEARN how to do this, then you are also saying YOU are the PROBLEM and not the device.

Now if you tell them up front that this devices only rivals the Blu for most negative posts and that there are much better devices that are MUCH easier to use without a big learning curve, but then offer to help them with the device, THAT I can support.

But leaving them with the notion that they are the problem NOT the device, is not helping anyone.

 

[Crankyfuzz]

I am so glad after reading some of these posts that I did not discover the ecigs through my local mall. It is sad the amount of people that are getting ripped off and some of them never even find this forum I am sure because they do not use a computer or are not that internet literate.

 

[ZambucaLu]

Hey Jim....I think it's great that you are helping those who own 4081s and have questions....especially the newbs.

And I truly hope you are not being harassed for doing so. That is totally unnecessary.

Keep up the good work!

Lu

 

[ZambucaLu]

There are two members, the only two I know of, who think the SE gold is the best PV made: ProtoType and Jim Davis. I would PM them and see if they would buy it from you. Since they think it is the best PV made it will be interesting to see if they would be willing to take it off your hands. Let us know.

I've never seen Jim Davis say the SE gold is the best PV made. I've heard him say if you own a 4081 (by SE or anyone else), he can offer you tips on how to get some good use out of it. He's doing so to help those who own them.

In the future, please refrain from such instigating remarks as you have made here.

Lu

 

[ProtoType]

If you just tell them "we will help you learn how to vape with this device" they will feel like THEY are the problem and not the device. When all you say is YOU have to LEARN how to do this, then you are also saying YOU are the PROBLEM and not the device.

90% of the time it is USER error. I had a meeting with the big boss man yesterday and I had him order the RN4081 (nPro). He told me it sucks and wants something new. I asked him to see it. He had been smoking it BONE DRY and did not order any juice like I said. EVEN WHEN I GAVE HIM AN IN-PERSON TUTORIAL HE DID NOT BELIEVE IT REALLY NEEDED TO BE REFILLED! Anyhow, I put in some RMV Mocha for him and his eyes lit up like WOW THIS BLOWS TONS OF SMOKE!

I also let him try my 510. He said he'll keep the 4081. How many more people are using these without properly keeping the coil wet??

Now if you tell them up front that this devices only rivals the Blu for most negative posts and that there are much better devices that are MUCH easier to use without a big learning curve, but then offer to help them with the device, THAT I can support.

That is one long run-on sentence that is hard to comprehend, but I will try anyway. If you think that all users say Blu sucks, you're wrong. They say their crappy shipping service sucks. In fact, here is a post by another user saying they figured out how to make Blu work better than their 510.

Np at all, hope it works as well for you as it has me. On a side note, and I will probably catch hell for this, I just got a 510 in with some empty carts. Using the exact same method as above (with a couple modifications due to bigger cart size) I am more impressed with the Blu on this particular mod. Don't know if I've got a dud or what, but the Blu outperforms it thus far. Maybe my atty just hasn't gotten broken in yet. We shalls see.

The full thread can be found here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blu-electronic-cigarettes/35455-johnson-creek-pbt-mod.html

But leaving them with the notion that they are the problem NOT the device, is not helping anyone.

I have a few full 510's and more 4081's that I ordered. If my experience tells me that I can get a bigger cloud of vapor from the 4081 in a shorter interval with more flavor, how can I be wrong?

The only reason why you only know of 2 people vouching for the 4081 is because Jim & I are the only ones that actually spend time typing about it. The others avoid the limelight/hassle.

And as far as this whole automobile analogy, I agree with Jim because my first car was a VW Jetta and I raced my friend's 8 cylinder Ford Mustang, His car is no doubt better, faster, etc. but yet I beat him in a race because I knew how to whip my car around and he didn't. So what's the point in owning something fancier if you can do the same (and do it better) with a cheaper alternative?

And have you ever seen a 16 year old drive a lamborghini? Not quite the same either.

 

[wv2win]

90% of the time it is USER error. I had a meeting with the big boss man yesterday and I had him order the RN4081 (nPro). He told me it sucks and wants something new. I asked him to see it. He had been smoking it BONE DRY and did not order any juice like I said. EVEN WHEN I GAVE HIM AN IN-PERSON TUTORIAL HE DID NOT BELIEVE IT REALLY NEEDED TO BE REFILLED! Anyhow, I put in some RMV Mocha for him and his eyes lit up like WOW THIS BLOWS TONS OF SMOKE!

I also let him try my 510. He said he'll keep the 4081. How many more people are using these without properly keeping the coil wet??



That is one long run-on sentence that is hard to comprehend, but I will try anyway. If you think that all users say Blu sucks, you're wrong. They say their crappy shipping service sucks. In fact, here is a post by another user saying they figured out how to make Blu work better than their 510.



The full thread can be found here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blu-electronic-cigarettes/35455-johnson-creek-pbt-mod.html



I have a few full 510's and more 4081's that I ordered. If my experience tells me that I can get a bigger cloud of vapor from the 4081 in a shorter interval with more flavor, how can I be wrong?

The only reason why you only know of 2 people vouching for the 4081 is because Jim & I are the only ones that actually spend time typing about it. The others avoid the limelight/hassle.

And as far as this whole automobile analogy, I agree with Jim because my first car was a VW Jetta and I raced my friend's 8 cylinder Ford Mustang, His car is no doubt better, faster, etc. but yet I beat him in a race because I knew how to whip my car around and he didn't. So what's the point in owning something fancier if you can do the same (and do it better) with a cheaper alternative?

And have you ever seen a 16 year old drive a lamborghini? Not quite the same either.

You just keep thinking that the rn4081 is some great device. I've read enough posts on here as you have and we all know which PV's are raved about and which ones are not. For every one positive post on the SE Gold or Blu you will find 20 negative ones. And for every one negative post on the Prodigy or Screwdriver or 510, you will find 50 positive ones. You are on the wrong side of that issue and always will be. The real "user error" is you telling newbies that the SE Gold is a good device.

 

[ProtoType]

The real "user error" is you telling newbies that the SE Gold is a good device.

I don't think so. I blow clouds of vapor comparable to the 510. The only difference I can attest to is that my 4081 produces way superior conservation of flavor in its application. Maybe the SE Gold is a bootleg 4081--I don't know. All I know is that I ordered my parts from Ruyan Direct and they are great. The real "user error" is making everyone think they need to invest as much as you did to gain some perspective or insight onto a truly liberating experience of vaping.

 

[Jim Davis]

You just keep thinking that the rn4081 is some great device. I've read enough posts on here as you have and we all know which PV's are raved about and which ones are not. For every one positive post on the SE Gold or Blu you will find 20 negative ones. And for every one negative post on the Prodigy or Screwdriver or 510, you will find 50 positive ones. You are on the wrong side of that issue and always will be. The real "user error" is you telling newbies that the SE Gold is a good device.

There are just as many posts on other models in the Tech Issues Forum. there are models that I dislike too, but I don't go around the Forums bad mouthing them. Not everyone want's a mod, and that just scalds your .... for some reason.

You spent your time stalking Dumwaldo when hes was here because he didn't like the SD. Now he's gone, so you spend your time stalking Prototype and myself and bashing everything that is said.

I say the 4081 / M401 and other super minis are decent e-cigs to work with.
And unlike you, I don't go around the forums bashing select models.

And furthermore, I don't see *you* personally working with *anyone* to help with a problem. You log in, bash, and log out.

Everyone here is entitled to their opinion. This is a place of Free Choice. Get A Life.

jd
Proud user of 4081/401/510/801/901

 

[Chaser]

okay well honestly i didnt like it i have two 901s and they are great, so my only question was where and who can i sell it to. And now.... how long does a cart last if i have the eliquid?

 

[Jim Davis]

okay well honestly i didnt like it i have two 901s and they are great, so my only question was where and who can i sell it to. And now.... how long does a cart last if i have the eliquid?

Howdy Chaser;
You like it or you don't. That's your choice & no one elses.

You can put any e-cig or juice up in the Classified Buy Sell & Trade Forum. It's at the bottom of the Forum Jump Dropdown at the bottom of the page.

How long a cart lasts will depend on the size of the cart, make of the cart, and how often you vape. If you're talking about the 901, I would suggest talking to the 901 users, and take the average. I don't remember how long my 901 carts lasted me. I gave it to my brother in law, and haven't used a 901 in some time now. I didn't give it away because I didn't like it, i gave it to him as a starter set.