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Hard to beat this one. Two Panasonic NCR18650B Protected Rechargeable 3400mAh 3.7V 18650 Lithium batteries for $16.21. https://www.fasttech.com/products/1420/10001980/1141104-panasonic-ncr18650b-protected-rechargeable-3400mah


Note that these are only 2C batteries so that makes it a 6.8 amp limit... not in the same league as the CGR18650CH with a 10 amp limit or the NCR18650PD with an 18 amp limit..

Although to be realistic, 6.8 amps is a .7 ohm coil...
 

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aw imr 18650 is generally the safest bet for a mech mod?

and i was doing math to figure out amp draws as i would want to be around .7 to 1 ohms on my atty which brings the amp draw less than 7 volts
and reading about amp limits with battery C ratings.
where can i find the information for C ratings on the IMRs?

is a volt meter really necessary, if you dont have one, how do you know when to change battery?

If you are doing sub ohm coils, you need some accurate method to check the resistance of the coils. A digital multimeter will be able to do this, as well as measure the voltage of a battery. Meters

How to Use a Digital Multimeter: Multi-Meter How to for Electronic Cigarette users - YouTube

Alternatively, you can use a digital voltage indicator to measure battery voltage only. Meters : 510 Voltage Indicator Rev 2
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The 2000mAh AW 18650 IMR has a 10 amp limit. AW IMR 18650 2000 mAh

The 1600mAh AW 18650 IMR has a 20 amp limit. AW IMR 18650 1600 mAh

The 1300mAh MNKE 18650 IMR has a 30 amp limit. Batteries : MNKE IMR 18650

PBusardo lists several batteries to use for sub ohm vaping in this article on his Taste Your Juice website. Since there is a glitch in direct linking to the website via ECF, copy/paste the following into your web browser's address window and then remove the spaces:

http: //taste your juice.com/wordpress/battery-information/
 
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Is there a benefit of the NCR PD over the CRG other than a slightly higher Mah on the PDs? Or are they in pretty much the same boat for safety and quality? I am using them with mostly mechs and one or two VV/VW devices. No less than 1.5 ohms and typically 1.8 on my mechs and 2.2 on my Vv devices. I have the PDs right now but want some back ups so was not sure if I should stick with the PDs or throw in some CRgs as well.
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1141101

https://www.fasttech.com/products/1233700
 

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the CGR is actually a hybrid chemistry Li-mh i believe and is considered one of the safest chemistry to date.
i use both the batteries you have linked and they both work great and at standard resistances either would be fine.
Panasonic releases a statement not too long ago stating that they do not sell seconds or lesser grade batteries, they run every battery through the same series of tests and they either pass or fail there is no b grade with them. I would trust a panny used within its limits everytime myself.

I know on a couple other spots i visit many people have fallen in love with the 3400's as long as you dont pass the lower amp limit they will run fine also, and like the other post realistically a 2 ohm coil running around 4 v is a whopping 2 amps. maybe 3-3 1/2 with the VV circuit raising the voltage.
 
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the CGR is actually a hybrid chemistry Li-mh i believe and is considered one of the safest chemistry to date.
i use both the batteries you have linked and they both work great and at standard resistances either would be fine.
Panasonic releases a statement not too long ago stating that they do not sell seconds or lesser grade batteries, they run every battery through the same series of tests and they either pass or fail there is no b grade with them. I would trust a panny used within its limits everytime myself.

I know on a couple other spots i visit many people have fallen in love with the 3400's as long as you dont pass the lower amp limit they will run fine also, and like the other post realistically a 2 ohm coil running around 4 v is a whopping 2 amps. maybe 3-3 1/2 with the VV circuit raising the voltage.


Thanks, I will likely take the PDs out and go with the CRG since I already have a couple Pds
As for the 3400's are you talking about These

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0...onic-ncr18650b-18650-37v-3400mah-rechargeable

Just curious as I posted in the discussions there and about got my head taken off asking about using these on a mech....LOL
 
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Max. Discharge rate: 2C (6.8A)
Pulse current (5-6 sec.): 12A

yea thats them, i wouldnt try to use them in a mech but with standard resistance in a regulated mod people are loving them.

lol the pic of the chick with the cigar is awesome

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i would stick with the high drain cgr or pd's in a mech if sticking with panasonic.

since all i have is button top 2900's for my VV i use my cgr's for my mech now with a 1 ohm coil.
 
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Max. Discharge rate: 2C (6.8A)
Pulse current (5-6 sec.): 12A

yea thats them, i wouldnt try to use them in a mech but with standard resistance in a regulated mod people are loving them.

lol the pic of the chick with the cigar is awesome

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i would stick with the high drain cgr or pd's in a mech if sticking with panasonic.

LOl, yeah i appreciated all the input but i felt like i was misunderstood. i certainly was not pushing them, just asking....but funny none the less. pics like that make me second guess....LOL, can't understand why! ;)
I actually ended up getting a pair of both the PDs and CGRs. Figured I would stick with what I know and can use them in both regulated and mech.
Thanks for the help
 

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I know on a couple other spots i visit many people have fallen in love with the 3400's as long as you dont pass the lower amp limit they will run fine also, and like the other post realistically a 2 ohm coil running around 4 v is a whopping 2 amps. maybe 3-3 1/2 with the VV circuit raising the voltage.

The boost circuit draw is pretty key, given that the PD surpasses the B somewhere between 2 and 3 amps (discharge to 3.2v, at 3.3v it's 2 amps on the dot).
 

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Both protected Li-ions and IMR safer chemistry and "Hybrid"'s are fine for an all mechanical mod as well as an unregulated mod.

It's often considered safest to use the IMR (safer chemistry) CGR..CH and NCR..PD batteries with a vape safe type device, or on a device that has protection built in.

Only the super low and sub ohm atomizers utilize or need the higher amp limit on some of these newer batteries.
 
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Here's the review of Panasonic NCR18650B 3400mah Protected

Test of Panasonic NCR18650B Protected 3400mAh (Green)

I personally never bought batteries from FastTech, but an EVOD I bought from them didn't look genuine EVOD from Kanger. There were no labels on it and the air holes placements were inconsistent, yet they advertise as EVOD.
 

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Here's the review of Panasonic NCR18650B 3400mah Protected

Test of Panasonic NCR18650B Protected 3400mAh (Green)

I personally never bought batteries from FastTech, but an EVOD I bought from them didn't look genuine EVOD from Kanger. There were no labels on it and the air holes placements were inconsistent, yet they advertise as EVOD.

If it didn't say kanger on the listing it was a clone. EVOD is the description of the device.
 

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Say, they make Provari clone and advertise it as Provari right on the title, and as long as it doesn't say 'Provari from Provape' the 'Provari' is only a description of the device... that's just deceiving and wrong. They should make things clearer to earn more trust from customers.

Their naming convention is consistent. You don't call it an EVOD, nobody will find it or understand right away what it is. If there was a provari clone and they called it a xyz mod, that would actually be less accurate than calling it a provari mod.

Genuine items will have the company name and/or "genuine" in the name of the listing, like this:
$12.09 Kanger Protank Clearomizer with Pyrex Glass Tank (2.5mL) - silver / 2.5

versus these

$5.37 Mini Protank Electronic Cigarette Atomizer (1.5mL) - translucent / 2.5
$4.23 X9 Protank Atomizer with Plastic Tank (2.5ml) *SALE* - translucent / 2.5

Protank is the model descriptor, like EVOD.

In any event if you have any questions about the authenticity of something on that site, read the discussions from other users. And if there are none, you can ask the staff, they answer.
 
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Their naming convention is consistent. You don't call it an EVOD, nobody will find it or understand right away what it is. If there was a provari clone and they called it a xyz mod, that would actually be less accurate than calling it a provari mod.

Genuine items will have the company name and/or "genuine" in the name of the listing, like this:
$12.09 Kanger Protank Clearomizer with Pyrex Glass Tank (2.5mL) - silver / 2.5

versus these

$5.37 Mini Protank Electronic Cigarette Atomizer (1.5mL) - translucent / 2.5
$4.23 X9 Protank Atomizer with Plastic Tank (2.5ml) *SALE* - translucent / 2.5

Protank is the model descriptor, like EVOD.

In any event if you have any questions about the authenticity of something on that site, read the discussions from other users. And if there are none, you can ask the staff, they answer.

I disagree.

All they had to do is to add a word such as 'clone,' 'compatible,' or 'style' in the title or at least in the description section. Without it, whoever purchases will obviously expect EVOD from Kanger. We're not talking about a general nouns such as 'Bottom Coil Tank' or 'Clearomizer.' EVOD is a proper noun made by Kanger. Making and selling a clone, even calling it by the same name that it's cloned from, and not acknowledging that anywhere in the ad is, to me pretty deceiving.
 
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Their naming convention is consistent. You don't call it an EVOD, nobody will find it or understand right away what it is. If there was a provari clone and they called it a xyz mod, that would actually be less accurate than calling it a provari mod.

Genuine items will have the company name and/or "genuine" in the name of the listing, like this:
$12.09 Kanger Protank Clearomizer with Pyrex Glass Tank (2.5mL) - silver / 2.5

versus these

$5.37 Mini Protank Electronic Cigarette Atomizer (1.5mL) - translucent / 2.5
$4.23 X9 Protank Atomizer with Plastic Tank (2.5ml) *SALE* - translucent / 2.5

Protank is the model descriptor, like EVOD.

In any event if you have any questions about the authenticity of something on that site, read the discussions from other users. And if there are none, you can ask the staff, they answer.


Gotta say the people writing the discussion really do attempt to get the staff to say genuine or clone. The staff is forthright as well.
 
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