Best Build for Bakery Flavors?

[Kemosabe]

hi guys. ive been having problems lately trying to get optimum flavor from one of my favorite juices. its Nite Lite Vapors' Gold. its a flavored tobacco vape by name, but it tastes like a bakery vape. the predominant flavors are maple, toffee, "lite" tobacco (which comes through as a pancake flavor), and a buttery note. the buttery note is the hardest one to get to "come alive" with certain builds, yet it is very crucial to the integrity of the flavor.

previously, i had been using mesh to achieve the true flavor of this juice. it works great in a genny at 2Ω. but now that im all mech, 2Ω aint cuttin the cheese anymore. so far all my low ohm builds (which taste great for all my other flavors) fail miserably with this juice. and its really annoying because this juice is way too good to just give up on. that would be totally out of the question imo.

does anyone know which type of build would be best to make this juice come alive? please let me know if i can provide more info for anyone to help me. i am determined to get this right.

thanks in advance.
-Kemo

 

[pdib]

My first thought is, if you're going low res. on it, try it with a longish strand of 24g. Let the slow heat-up time be your friend. Something like this ↓ . . . lotta wire mass in there. Mind you, I've never tried it "with butter", and I don't vape bakery; but you were looking for ideas, and I had one . .. .. .

 

[Thraizer]

I vape a couple of bakery juice and for me I found 1.2-1.5Ω single coil on a mechanical to be the best for flavor. I tried a sub ohm build with my bakery type juice and the flavor gets ruined, very strong and makes me cough lol throat hit is definitely there! Also I've been a Kanthal A1 wire user for a while and decided to try Nichrome 60 I read that it gives a cleaner taste/flavor. Got a 50ft spool of 28g Nichrome 60 and did the usual micro coil build 1/16th drill bit @ 1.2Ω and my Banana Cream Pie, Vanilla Butternut, Butterscotch tastes like heaven! But yeah, I would start with a 1Ω coil and adjust to get that good flavor.

 

[Sirius]

2mm dual coil at 1Ω 28ga works beat for me. 12 wraps each. I have no idea about a single coil but I would go with pdibs suggestion.

 

[Spacedoutart]

If you want to be shocked with flavor, then you have to try the clapton coil! I make it with 28 gauge inside wire and 34 outside wire. Then I give it a 3/4 wrap on a 3/32 inch screwdriver, microcoil style. Lightly stuffed with Cotton. Comes out to .7 ohms

 

[inanitydefined]

Bakery flavors tend to be all over the heat register, vanilla likes heat but butterscotch doesn't. I would go 1.4 ohm per coil, triple/quad twisted wire. Since you're on a genny (and that's my ..... right there), try this.
Triple twist 32guage wire, wrap a micro on an 18 gauge needle. I think 12wraps will get you there. Build as far out on the wick hole as possible, away from the center post and towards the airhole. Wick through with cotton, tuck the upper end between the coil and centre post and poke slightly down into the wick hole

 

[TrolleyVW]

Everybody has different experiences and opinions and all taste is subjective. I personally build lower sub ohm and drip and by readings the other suggestions, I'm the odd one out. I do vape quite a few "bakery" flavors, dessert as I call them, that consist of mother's milk and OB by suicide bunny (strawberry milk and vanilla cake) and banilla by epic juice (banana vanilla custard). I've been doing a lot of experimenting with my larger top cap RDAs and I found that a dual parallel 28 gauge 5/10 wraparound 5/64 ID with organic cotton gives off an amazing flavor in my stillare v2. With the OB and banilla, a 26 gauge dual 6 wrap 5/64 ID at around .32 ohms is perfect.

Just my experiences. I think the atomizer and top cap of that atomizer have a lot if not more to do with the outcome than the build itself.

 

[Kemosabe]

Thanks for all the tips and experience notes. Much appreciated. Looks like I've got my work cut out for me! I plan to incorporate the ideas here. Will report back.

 

[scrappy]

Dual parallels bring out the most flavor of any juice I'm using, not just bakery flavors.

 

[Land0Calrissian]

Dual parallels bring out the most flavor of any juice I'm using, not just bakery flavors.

I like the parallel build a lot right now, and being very into dessert/baked goods I wanted to up the ohms and slow down the heat so the vape wasn't as hot. I use twisted 28 gauge and make a single parallel coil (alternatively if you have a smaller post hole you could use twisted 30 gauge). Twisted wires seem to heat up noticeably slower compared to regular wire and the increased surface area from the twisted kanthal helps with the flavor.

 

[scrappy]

I like the parallel build a lot right now, and being very into dessert/baked goods I wanted to up the ohms and slow down the heat so the vape wasn't as hot. I use twisted 28 gauge and make a single parallel coil (alternatively if you have a smaller post hole you could use twisted 30 gauge). Twisted wires seem to heat up noticeably slower compared to regular wire and the increased surface area from the twisted kanthal helps with the flavor.

So you use twisted wire to wrap your parallels? That's brilliant. I'm gonna give that a try on my next build. I think I'll try 32g and do duals. Hopefully I can get it above .4 ohms. That's the lowest I'll go for an all day vape.

 

[Land0Calrissian]

So you use twisted wire to wrap your parallels? That's brilliant. I'm gonna give that a try on my next build. I think I'll try 32g and do duals. Hopefully I can get it above .4 ohms. That's the lowest I'll go for an all day vape.

Yeah 32 should give you a higher ohm rating (id try 4 wraps if I was you). I've been messing with them for a bit because I really liked parallels (heats very fast) but twisted wires give a more profound flavor in my opinion. So I put them together, I probably wasn't the first though so I can't take credit. If you can torch the wires before coiling it will help they're pretty springy to handle at first. Good luck let me know how it goes!


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[Land0Calrissian]

Btw I do singles of the parallel twists, all day vaping on duels is a juice monster so I generally make singles unless I'm trying to show off lol. If I was you first do it single and see what kind of ohm reading you get before you go duels. I've never messed with 32 and I'm not sure what your jig is.


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[scrappy]

Yeah 32 should give you a higher ohm rating (id try 4 wraps if I was you). I've been messing with them for a bit because I really liked parallels (heats very fast) but twisted wires give a more profound flavor in my opinion. So I put them together, I probably wasn't the first though so I can't take credit. If you can torch the wires before coiling it will help they're pretty springy to handle at first. Good luck let me know how it goes!


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It turned out pretty well. I did a single with 32g, 9 wraps on a 18g needle and it came out to .6 ohms. Not as much vapor as my normal parallel duals but flavor is a little better. I'm sure if I did duals it would exceed my usual set-up.

Ugh. I can't get rid of the second pic.