Best place to get DIY supplies?

[Shilo]

Is the stuff from tractor supply usp pharmaceutical grade? If I'm going to inhail it I want it to be the best

Its fine many of us have used it. You should care more about the caliber of the nic solution.

 

[Shilo]

This is something of a personal choice, and I could be missing something. But on ecigs premixed unflavored juice it was missing any type of grade on the bottle. I need to know what grade it is. We need food grade or pharm grade to vape and fda says it has to be on the label. I really don't want to vape tractor lube (industrial grade). Sent a email to ecig and they said they would put it on the label. They might have but already made the switch to a known american CO.


Again its all a personal choice and do your own research where they buy there supplies


k mol

Its not tractor lube...lol They give it to farm animals dude. It states USP on the bottle---you have to remember as of yet not a single thing we vape is labelled safe to vape by any entity.

 

[wizard10000]

I have gotten all of my supplies except for a few flavors from Wizard Labs.

This.

They have everything and their prices on VG are comparable to what I pay at the local health food store. If you factor in shipping costs for buying from multiple locations you might find that WL is a great place to do one-stop shopping.

 

[purelyscientific]

I decided to do a comparison chart of the mentioned DIY suppliers. So far wizard labs is on top in every category.(PG/VG price, nicliq price, and variety of saftey equipment)

 

[DedTV]

Its not tractor lube...lol They give it to farm animals dude. It states USP on the bottle---you have to remember as of yet not a single thing we vape is labelled safe to vape by any entity.

PG, PEG and Glycerine has been used as an inhalant for many decades in Medicine and it's safety has been verified in numerous studies and via practical application over those decades. So that something we can be certain is safe to inhale.

And just because it's safe to eat (whether it's you or a farm animal), doesn't mean it's safe for you to vape and inhale it (See: Diacetyl). So it's not unreasonable for someone to want true Pharmaceutical grade components wherever possible.

USP Grade PG and VG are both approved by the FDA for use in most medical applications. So for our intents and purposes, anything marked USP can be considered Pharma Grade.

There is a higher standard that would be considered the "true" Pharma grade, but that true pharma grade stuff is expensive. For example, USP grade VG, which is 99.7-99.8% pure, can be had for ~$20-40/gal, retail. True Pharma grade Glycerin, which is 99.999% pure, is around $700/gal. 0.299% isn't worth a $660 price premium for most people. Especially since that $700 bottle of Glycerin would become USP grade the second you opened the bottle outside a 0% humidity clean room as most of the 0.3% of "impurities" in USP grade is water and air molecules.

Flavoring though is always going to be the wild card. They are proprietary so it's hard to know what's in them as vendors can't give out their secrets. Plus in natural and organic flavorings, even the manufacturer couldn't tell you every compound contained in them. And even if we did know what was in them, most of the compounds haven't been tested for safety as inhalants.

But there's nothing wrong with trying to use the best ingredients possible. That's why I ask what brand of PG/VG I'm getting from vendors. There's nothing proprietary about PG/PEG/VG and all of it is manufactured by a small handful of companies, few of which sell direct to users so there's no legitimate reason for anyone to hold back that info from their customers. If they refuse to give you the exact brand name of the PG/VG they are selling, it's probably because they're using low grade stuff or are rebranding and marking up stuff from another vendor (or buy it from someone who does). If that happens, go somewhere else until you find someone who can and will give you that info.
Once you have the brand info, you should be able to find a product sheet to see just how pure their stuff is and can decide how comfortable you are using it.

 

[kabonk]

I just bought Nic from RTS for the first time I'm very impressed with it's very clean tasting and clear and there was that 20% first time buy coupon which made it even better

 

[canoeist]

I am going to try RTS next time I order nic. Always read good things about them.

 

[B2L]

Like Bnrk I buy all my DIY supplies from High Desert Ecigs - Age Verification. John has a great selection, great prices and the best customer service I have experienced.

 

[salemgold]

I am going to try RTS next time I order nic. Always read good things about them.

RTS has 20% off their nicotine, glass labware, chinese tobacco and TFA flavorings right now plus you get 6% rewards on every order so always factor in that the prices are equal to 6% less than what you see on their site. With this sale, you save 26%

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