Best VV Box Mod around?

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John R. L.

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I have a madvapes box and it rocks !! but I wanted something better so I got this.. my 3 Geppetto's.jpg nothing like wood mod to make your day !! It's a Gepetto and you can find him here as "woodworm" his mods are great, hits like m.v. box ( but all VV's hit about the same) and his artwork can not be beat !! check him out !!
 

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After seeing this thread I checked out the site for ShanB mods and there were actually a few availible so I pulled the trigger on a vv red splash.

Then I went a little overboard and ordered a vv Bogger box as I wanted a vv bottom feeder but did not want to wait for the Reo orbe part of the feeding frenzy when it finally does come out.
 

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Smoktek Smokbox Varicool 3 Amp and 6 Amp
I wrote reviews on both.
I tested it continuously for 35 consecutive 1 Minute Vapes and the Voltage stayed rock solid on my tester until the end
Below are links to my reviews.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/321528-smoktek-smokbox-varicool-custom-box-mod-made-u-s-review.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/328607-6amp-beast-here-smoktek-smokbox-varicool-6amp-usa-mod-review.html



Donnah,

When you say the voltage stays the same, do you mean the hit it gives stays the same until the batteries die? Do both the MV box and the Sgt Army box give you powerful hits until the batts die?

I'm having a heck of a time finding a mod that does that, one that I can afford. My original Infinity was like that and every one I have bought since is not like that. I get 2 hours of great warm hits and then 2 hours of mediocre hits and then 2 hours of wimpy un-warm hits:( I bought the new Infinity and it is nothing like my old one and my poor old one is now broken:( I really don't want to spend over $100 so if anyone has any advice, let me know.
 

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I own a lot of VV mods, including many tubes and boxes. Five Madvapes VV Boxes; Little Sister, Big Brother, and Big Daddy from Ken's Box Mods; a ShanB Splash with voltage display; an Ovale V8, a Maximum Vapors VV Woodie v1, and a Caged Penguin tin VV with voltage display.

The Madvapes boxes, Big Brother, and Splash use two 14500 batteries in series. The Little Sister uses two 10440s, while the Big Daddy and Penguins mod use two 18650s. The Ovale uses two 18350s.

Some are linear regulators: Madvapes VV Boxes, Little Sister, Big Brother, and Splash. Some are the more efficient switching regulators: Big Daddy, Woodie, Ovale, and Penguin. I don't notice any difference in the vape between linear and switching regulators, but the switching regulators produce less heat and provide longer battery life.

I have mostly loved my Madvapes VV Boxes. The caveat is that I bought nine of them all told---seven without voltage display and two with. After about a year's use, four failed: two of the seven without voltage display and both of the units with voltage displays. Five are still going strong after 18 months average use. Interestingly, the two that had voltage displays both failed the same way---faulty assembly of gluing the connector into the plastic box. Eventually the connector came loose and would spin, breaking the solder connections to the power wire. The problem with repairing Madvapes VV boxes (and many other similar box mods as well) is that the components are covered in hot glue to hold them in place. I'm sure someone sufficiently skilled could get through the hot glue to make repairs, but I couldn't. For what I paid ($35-45), it was less hassle to just pitch them.

The Little Sister is great because it's so tiny. The downside is that it has very small batteries (10440s) that don't last long and cannot maintain higher voltages under load, so that the voltage drop is somewhat pronounced. Most of my other VV boxes have only a very small voltage drop.

The Penguins tin mod is a monster. With a 6-amp OKR switching regulator, it can produce more watts than even the most extreme high-voltage vapor would need. In any normal vaping setting, it has zero voltage drop under load. What you set is what you get. And you get it for a long time with two 18650s providing power. Having a voltage display on the inside is a great help (as are the external displays on the ShanB and Ovale).

Connecting an inline voltage meter can get old after awhile, but it's a necessity with the Madvapes VV Boxes and others where the potentiometer is too sensitive or non-linear, so that the slightest turn of the pot may change the voltage significantly. In those units, you really can't adjust the voltage by eye or feel, so an inline voltage display is a necessity. By contrast, my BuzzPro and iPro have adjustment pots with better linearity, longer turning arcs, and standard markings that make manual voltage adjustments easier and more accurate.

I do appreciate the digital voltage adjustment and atty/carto resistance checking on my tube VVs (ProVari, Vmax, and three Young-June Vtubes), but I still like my VV boxes. While simpler and usually hand-made, they vape just as well.
 

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I second the VariCool box from SmokTek, especially since the OP was talking price point too.

I looked at the MadVapes boxes - and all the reviews stating they were lucky if the box lasted a month - and based on the reviews they just seemed like a waste of money waiting to happen. The VariCool uses a better voltage regulator, thus longer run times between charges, and has a longer warranty than the MadVapes boxes. Add it all up and that's why I chose the VariCool over the MadVapes.

I've had my VariCool for 6 months now and it just works without any fuss. If you already have 14500 batteries and a charger you would only need to buy the box. And AIRC that runs $55.00. SmokTek has an ECF 5% off coupon too. (You just missed 10% off for Labor Day.)
 
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...The problem with repairing Madvapes VV boxes (and many other similar box mods as well) is that the components are covered in hot glue to hold them in place. I'm sure someone sufficiently skilled could get through the hot glue to make repairs, but I couldn't. For what I paid ($35-45), it was less hassle to just pitch them.

I purchased my Madvapes VV boxmod from the first batch they offered for sale over 1 1/2 years ago, and it's still running strong. But I've had to repair it a couple of times. They cover the circuitry with a generous amount of hotmelt glue. In order to get to the components all you have to do is heat up the glue with a hair dryer and pick it out with tweezers. Heat it until it's too hot to touch, pick out what you can, then repeat. Several rounds of this and you'll have it cleaned out. It'll take 15 to 20 minutes to get it all out, but once you do you have free access to everything. I had to replace the switch in mine and found one that fits at Radio Shack, a 2 pack for around $4.
 

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I'll stand by my recommendation of the Varicool 3 Amp or 6 Amp based on price and performance.

There is nothing on the Market under $100.00 that will offer this kind of performance.

The drawbacks are that the shell is a plastic battery box. This is outweighed by the reasonable price and
stellar performance.

I torture tested the units and they were rock solid Vapes. 35 1 minute Vapes (I didn't inhale) at 4.35V.
15 Seconds at 6V on a 1.5 Dual Coil. Heck I melted the Cartomizer and the unit stayed rock solid.

I have a Provari, which has been delegated to Clearomizer Tester since I began vaping this unit.

Yes, I don't think it will have the longetivity of the Provari, but considering that my Provari went Kaput in 13 months, I can buy
3-4 units for the same price.

This unit slaughtered the Provari in performance.

I'm not just making statements, go to my reviews. This was all proven scientifically.



http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/328607-6amp-beast-here-smoktek-smokbox-varicool-6amp-usa-mod-review.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/329587-smoktek-smokbox-varicool-6-amp-beast-destroys-provari-v2-xtreme-vaping.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/321528-smoktek-smokbox-varicool-custom-box-mod-made-u-s-review.html
 
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Hey Guys -
I have a Provari, a lava tube, 3 Madvapes VV Box Mods a few Egos and various other stuff that I haven't used in years. My absolute favorite are the Madvapes VV Box Mods - I love them - perfection. If I could just keep one of the damn things working. They are so cheaply made - I just can't justify buying a 4th.

I know there are various box mod's out there that are custom built and beautiful. What do you guys recommend?

Another question - do the quality (and honestly, power) of the custom expensive box mods match the power of the Madvapes VV?

Specifically, I would like to hear from someone that has a madvapes vv, and moved onto a better built boxmod, comment on the compairision of the vapor production and power between the madvapes and the new unit.

Hands down, to me, the madvapes is the best PV i've ever used. I just need a reliable one.

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

I have the MadVapes VV Box Mod and the little one too. I think I finally quit smoking with the VV Box Mod (I had tried for several years). Finally it was so 'used' looking with a broken door hinge lol but it still worked. I've had lots of PV's since, but love the boxy shape and feel. Then I got hold of the Ovale V8. That knocked my socks off! But it's plastic and bit delicate for some. Mine is still going strong after many months though, but other people have broken door hinges etc.

I am now waiting new for my new Innokin MPV!! I think of it as a 'modern BoxMod'.... with benefits...:p Very excited!
 

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I have personally gone thru what you speak of. Using MadVapes VV was the best experience of all, but I kept breaking them, or rather, they kept breaking on me and breaking the bank! Because they get so hot while regulating voltage, they emit heat, lots of heat! So much heat that the glue melts, the contents loosen, and solder joints start to break! Next thing you know, you're trying to fix the soldering, then eventually, you've got a useless VV on your hands! Well...I've finally discovered the SmokTek Vari-cool VV (or SmokeTech Vari-Cool), with the switching technology, the best thing I've ever done so far! It's just as accurate as any, and stronger than most! I've seen some prefer it over the Provari, perhaps for the low cost, lightweight, etc... I feel it's just as good, (minus the meter), much cheaper ($55) and built in the USA, with excellent quality! Batteries last 3 times longer due to maximum efficiency. Super clean workmanship. Since it's a box mod, it slips in your pocket and stays there, it's super lightweight, etc...... Its everything! I think all vapers should own one.
 
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I have personally gone thru what you speak of. Using MadVapes VV was the best experience of all, but I kept breaking them, or rather, they kept breaking on me and breaking the bank! Because they get so hot while regulating voltage, they emit heat, lots of heat! So much heat that the glue melts, the contents loosen, and solder joints start to break! Next thing you know, you're trying to fix the soldering, then eventually, you've got a useless VV on your hands!
That's interesting. I have 4 MadVapes BoxMods which I worked hard. Two are VV. None of them ever overheated (or even got warm).
 

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My post specifies the VV only. I'm One of so many that have experienced the melting glue. When I say melting, I don't mean flowing, or liquifying, I only mean the glue gets soft enough to allow loosening of the internal parts, then inevitably, the soldering breaks.
To be clear, I also own Madvapes 3.7 box mods that still work as good as the day I bought them, but that may be because I barley use them anymore. They're too unreliable voltage wise. Only a VV will give you static voltage until the batteries are dead.
 
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