Best way to build a tobh at >= 1.4 ohms

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nlaq

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Hey guys!

I have a Tobh that I put a "test" build on last night, just to see something work. That was my first build.

However, I really want to experiment with higher ohm builds. The one I put together was really just an experiment - and it ended up at .6. Everything I've been reading seems to indicate that 1.4 and up are great for regulated mods (such as my IPV2) and increase battery life. In theory, it would afford more surface area too, which seems to be another thing that people say can increase performance.

What's the best way to get a higher resistance? I have some 28 gauge and 24 gauge kanthol; and some 30 on the way. Should I put in more wraps, do a single coil build (it seems that the Tobh isn't designed for those though), use a different gauge, etc? Or should I look at getting a different atty that would be more appropriate for a build like this?

Another question: it doesn't seem like higher ohm (>= 1) builds are talked about much. Is sub-ohming really that much better? I understand that the lower resistance means you get hotter coils faster; but then, on the other hand, everyone seems to say that regulated mods are happier at higher ohm builds. Kinda odd considering I do see a lot of topics about regulated mods, yet very few to none on >= 1 ohm builds.
 

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.6 is fine for an IPV. It gives you a range of nearly 28w.

SubOhms got big because up until very recently high power regulated devices were rare and expensive, so you built a low impedance coil and stuck it on a mech.

I mostly use an IPV2 these days, but I still build sub ohm coils, so should I decide (or need to) use a mech I'm not stuck with a weak vape.
 

nlaq

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.6 is fine for an IPV. It gives you a range of nearly 28w.

SubOhms got big because up until very recently high power regulated devices were rare and expensive, so you built a low impedance coil and stuck it on a mech.

I mostly use an IPV2 these days, but I still build sub ohm coils, so should I decide (or need to) use a mech I'm not stuck with a weak vape.

That makes sense. Though, I'd still like to try out a >= 1 ohm build. Should I just keep wrapping a coil until the ohm meter reads 2 (for a dual coil)? Sadly, the Tobh doesn't seem to be designed for single coils.

One of my main concerns is how many wraps is too much, if it gets me to where I wanted the resistance to be? Maybe I should try a bigger diameter?
 

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To get a 1.5-ohm dual coil set-up each coil needs to be 3-ohms. If you use 28ga wire each of your coils will have a lot of wraps to get to 3-ohms so it is more practical to to use a higher resistance wire (30 or 32) to get closer to your target resistance with fewer wraps.

The other option would be to shoot for a 1-ohm set-up with each coil being 2-ohms, which can be accomplished with fewer wraps.
 

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That makes sense. Though, I'd still like to try out a >= 1 ohm build. Should I just keep wrapping a coil until the ohm meter reads 2 (for a dual coil)? Sadly, the Tobh doesn't seem to be designed for single coils.

One of my main concerns is how many wraps is too much, if it gets me to where I wanted the resistance to be? Maybe I should try a bigger diameter?

Larger diameter will help a little, but nowhere near as much as more wraps or a smaller gauge of wire.

What is your objection to sub ohm coils?
 

nlaq

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Larger diameter will help a little, but nowhere near as much as more wraps or a smaller gauge of wire.

What is your objection to sub ohm coils?

Nothing :)

Since I switched to RDA's, I've been vaping off of a .4 and .7 - both were built by someone else. Now I have a .6 that I built, but I want to try playing with higher resistance to see how the additional range and batter life feel like.

There's a lot of different things to play with and try; I have two RTA clones on the way to play with, and I may be picking up another RDA clone sometime so I have another deck. But one of the first things I wanted to figure out was: is the increased voltage range and battery life on a higher ohm build better or worse than my sub ohms?

Also; as part of this question, since I am shooting for higher ohms, I can get away with more surface area. I want to see how that affects things too.
 
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