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Your water content looks to equal the amount of your oil content. I have mine at one fifth.
So we have an accord! I'll find ways to make cars faster and safer and you guys will find ways to make a better e-liquid. I'm good with that.
The acid kept on fizzing - so kept on adding. Something nt right there. But still should get a good result - just a bit weaker.
Gonna go ahead and take out the goodies ...
Has your oil completely separated out (de-emulsified)? Mine is taking forever.
Here is the extracted layer 1:1 with VG. Didn't add more VG yet as may be easier to remove the cloudiness while the liquid is less viscous.
Not a good pic. Tried to get a light behind it without glaring the lens.
Color is dark in a standard 30ml bottle (sorry, got the label off but not the glue). If tip the bottle to look through a thinner layer it is amber - fluorescent-like yellow when very thin layer. So seems the alkaloids have come through just fine
Not ideal now as night here. If just took a normal picture, would look a very dark liquid. The bottle is about 1 inch / 3cm in diameter.
Not a good pic. Tried to get a light behind it without glaring the lens.
Color is dark in a standard 30ml bottle (sorry, got the label off but not the glue). If tip the bottle to look through a thinner layer it is amber - fluorescent-like yellow when very thin layer. So seems the alkaloids have come through just fine
Not ideal now as night here. If just took a normal picture, would look a very dark liquid. The bottle is about 1 inch / 3cm in diameter.
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You have a dark clear layer, right ? Syringe that out and go forth.
The emulsion like stuff doesnt further separate to give more water layer - seems to be a solid settling. Keep it to see; but meanwhile go ahead with the water layer that you already have (what you have so far at least).
The separation was fast at the start and though it looked like it would separate more, it doesn't seem to. And thinking about it, I have all the water I added
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The brickets from the garlic press are drying out now and they look pretty pale. So I'm confident that 1 hour, including some pestling, is long enough for the tobacco soak.
The remaining cloudiness is so fine it might well never settle - just as tea is partly a suspension. Finings might work well.
I might just use it as is; this time.
I might just use it as is; this time.
This afternoon I made up a separate small batch in a 5ml bottle. I've syringed the red water out from this and then separated off the good oil from the sediment below it. I've now shaken up a 50/50 mix of the good oil with VG. It seems to be separating quite quickly. When done, I will take out the VG and add it to the red water. Should be ready to try then
I used a vegetable oil (avocado - a bit like olive oil or coconut oil) and I'm wondering if the ascorbic acid was simply reacting with the oil.
So I ended up adding too much water and now need to add more VG so vapable. The strength will be around 3mg/ml. Yet will still be quite dark. Ver little nic, but possibly a lot of other alkaloids. We'll see ...
I dont have a fresh atty atm, vaping dry my current one. So you'll probably test vape first. Looking forward to your report ...
So I ended up adding too much water and now need to add more VG so vapable. The strength will be around 3mg/ml. Yet will still be quite dark. Ver little nic, but possibly a lot of other alkaloids. We'll see ...
I dont have a fresh atty atm, vaping dry my current one. So you'll probably test vape first. Looking forward to your report ...
My oil and VG mix is separating out very nicely - I have 3 distinct bands... clear (red) VG at the bottom, murky emulsion in the middle and slightly cloudy pale oil at the top. I shall probably leave this to do its business until the morning and then add the VG to the red water.
That middle emulsion stuff is a suspension of solids not an emulsion of the water and oil. It is quite clear now when i look at it.
When shine a light into the bottom, the color is a gorgeous deep amber
When shine a light into the bottom, the color is a gorgeous deep amber
not sure why you are having issues with the emulsions.
Too much carryover of 'other' stuff, and water when you pressed the tobacco is likely a major part of it.
Kin, using vegetable oil it's probable that your emulsion includes soap.
When I press, or interface drip method, I end up with a "Crystal Clear" amber coloured oil.
sometimes, when I add the acid, i get a very thin layer of emulsion.
Kin, if it was still fizzing, you had water still in the oil.
The water still had sodium carbonate in it, but it would also have the stuff we are trying to get rid of in it too.
Too much carryover of 'other' stuff, and water when you pressed the tobacco is likely a major part of it.
Kin, using vegetable oil it's probable that your emulsion includes soap.
When I press, or interface drip method, I end up with a "Crystal Clear" amber coloured oil.
sometimes, when I add the acid, i get a very thin layer of emulsion.
Kin, if it was still fizzing, you had water still in the oil.
The water still had sodium carbonate in it, but it would also have the stuff we are trying to get rid of in it too.
It's all down to impatience on my part. When I went back a few hours later to clear up the container below the filter-icing gun, the remnants of oil therein had separated beautifully... a crystal clear golden oil with a fine black sludge settled below it.
Next time... time and patience!
I'm glad you were 'lazy'. Been meaning to try it with vegetable base, but was worried about just that very thing. Glad you tried it! Now, we just await the taste test.Was a learning experience.
I will measure next time for a start. Use the right oil and be more patient at the separation stage.
However, the amber color is only in the finished product and not in the oil - i just see the faint green of the original avocado plus some, er, soap.
Is soap a reaction of a base on fatty acids - it rings a bell. I'm sure I learned this sometime long ago ...
edit : sodium hydroxide (lye) - the exact same thing ! saponification.
i was lucky then to succed while making soap at the same time
WTA AND avocado soap
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