My guess is kanthal is better for duals, but who knows, I know Corey and others do duals with SS. Keep us posted
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Hm. I'll give t a shot. I just went on a building rampage, and set up 8 atties with varying builds: single, double, different diameters etc. if not, I'll just stick to my good ole kanthal I guess.My guess is kanthal is better for duals, but who knows, I know Corey and others do duals with SS. Keep us posted
LOL! That right there is a building rampage alright! That rocks
I think I know a guy who's still hoping for titanium, but you could probably twist his arm into signing up for one made from stainless steel.
What alloy are you considering?
Not so much "considering"........ as already may have done did.....
A while back,...my machinist buddy and I were talkin' about doin' some stainless. He quoted me a price, but I thought it was kin'a high....
Welp,....he took it upon himself to pick up some 303 stainless, just to give it a try.... Long story short,...he called me up yesterday, and told me that he had 6 of 'em ready for me, and asked if he could he bring 'em by....
They looked really nice, so I bought 'em.
In an effort to "save" me some money,...he only took 'em to about 80%. So he did save me a little money, but I'll have considerably more time in 'em, so............. there's that.....
Here's what they look like......
I'll spot the cap on one this weekend. Then I'll have to do all the milling on the cap, and open up the mag holes in the body, cut the squonk hole,...yada....
We'll have a look at it, once I get a finish on one, and see what's what.
I go no lower than 2mm coil with my SS 28g single coil...smaller than that too many wraps.
@TheKiwi I haven't had such good luck with dual ss. I had dual 2.5mm, 9 wraps of 28g in for a few days, but my 2mm twisted 30g kanthal just has better flavor, for me. Now, on my single coil attys, I like it a LOT. 6 spaced wraps of 28g is perfect. I'm going to keep messing with it. Also, I don't run center coils in anything. Pretty sure that my MTL draws don't get enough airflow through the atty to make them work-- I've tried it on lots of attys, and just get really anemic vapor. So it's duals for me on anything that'll take them.
Not so much "considering"........ as already may have done did.....
A while back,...my machinist buddy and I were talkin' about doin' some stainless. He quoted me a price, but I thought it was kin'a high....
Welp,....he took it upon himself to pick up some 303 stainless, just to give it a try.... Long story short,...he called me up yesterday, and told me that he had 6 of 'em ready for me, and asked if he could he bring 'em by....
They looked really nice, so I bought 'em.
In an effort to "save" me some money,...he only took 'em to about 80%. So he did save me a little money, but I'll have considerably more time in 'em, so............. there's that.....
Here's what they look like......
I'll spot the cap on one this weekend. Then I'll have to do all the milling on the cap, and open up the mag holes in the body, cut the squonk hole,...yada....
We'll have a look at it, once I get a finish on one, and see what's what.
Why do I suddenly find myself feeling all quinarius?
Why do I suddenly find myself feeling all quinarius?
That's only half as bad as feeling all denarius!!
i am new to the cc mod game, just got a copper second hand. really enjoying it. i see you all discussing ss wire and i have played with it some on mechs and reg mods. ss cold resistance is much less than kanthal, about half for 26 ga. keep in mind that unlike kanthal, ss changes resistance considerably as it is heated. a .5 ohm coil will go to .6 or so when vaped. so if you enjoy the vape of .5 kanthal, try to build lower with ss, .4-.45. glad i found this thread, lots of good info here.
That's only half as bad as feeling all denarius!!
Just trying to get a visual here, but will admit that the thought of the gorgeousness of a stainless atty'd unit in the form of a stainless CC is making me feel a bit delirious...
To echo my good friend, the sloth's words,...Welcome, grouch!
Just trying to get a visual here, but will admit that the thought of the gorgeousness of a stainless atty'd unit in the form of a stainless CC is making me feel a bit delirious...
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'sgonna be awesome!!!
It's not in my hands yet but OK
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This has been my unicorn for what seems like forever, I'm pretty stoked
Congratulations Bri! Eyeballed that one myself a few times. Happy to see it landed in deserving hands. Enjoy my brother...
ok . .. I'm anyone.
SS is going to provide a cooler vape. If heat is a key element to your enjoyment, SS is not for you. By this, I mean, like, I'm vaping at resistances where heat and residual heat are an issue, and I find that w/ SS I can vape at ~ .2Ω (or a little less) and not have a freakin' toaster oven in my atty. If, however, the element of heat provided by your current Kanthal build is perfect for you . . . there's no point in going to SS.
Also, as @grouch mentions, you've got to take into account that 316L SS rises in resistance when heated. So, you gotta figure your "running" resistance will be about 120% of your cold/metered resistance. Simplest way to translate this is to build your exact same preferred build with +2 gauge of SS (316L) to Kanthal (if you like 2mm ID, 26g Kan, 6 wraps . . . then build 2mm ID, 28g SS, 6 wraps). It will meter lower res. cold, but 316L will run at ≈res.
If you want more wire mass (if you want to eliminate the "cooler vape"-of-SS element, and/but avail yourself of the quicker heat-up time and stuff), you'll need to drop your average build resistance.
i.e. if you vape at .4Ω, and replicating a .4ΩK build with (2gauges↑) .34ΩSS (cold) is too cool for you . . . try an SS build that nets .29Ω (cold) and runs at ≈.35Ω (warm).
So, Kiwi, you not only decreased your wire mass (went up 2 gauges), but then you slapped a couple of extra wraps on for good measure. Adding in the TCR (SS resistance rising to ≈120% @ ≈400°F), you built a coil that nets a higher resistance than you're used to. So it would feel doubly cool.
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I think I know a guy who's still hoping for titanium, but you could probably twist his arm into signing up for one made from stainless steel.
What alloy are you considering?
I see I'm not the only one feeling a bit quinarius...
naw, just been fiddling with it for a little while now. I jumped on it the instant Capt Steve suggested it, and xpen mentioned the TCR→mech phenom.
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