Especially when they allow the sale of what they carry in head shops.
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Especially when they allow the sale of what they carry in head shops.
You should have no problem making your juice at home with nicotine. Taking nicotine off the market would be extremely difficult.
If the govt gets involved and controls the ejuice,they will proberly add their nicotine enchancing toxic chemicials, too make it even more addtictive,dont look too good;.
I stopped buying from Blu when Lorillard took over. For some reason, I can envision Doctor Evil and Mini Me tying up all of the Johnson Creek employees and dumping a green formaldehyde based liquid, from a little bottle marked with a skull and crossbones into each vat of juice.
It's Butters! You kind of read my mind. PV's could be sold under "ahem" certain names.
Yup, pg and vg is readily available along with flavorings. Invest in a couple RBAs as well. Cotton, ss mesh, silica, kanthal and nichrome are easy to get and legal.
The FDA required them to use decelerant after they began regulating them. That was not a decision of any of the BT's.
Not reading the entire thread...but will, this is my knee jerk opinion to the OP's original post.
I am not a fan of the big companies becoming or playing any part in the vaping game due to all these years making the money that they do from the weak, poor and rich . The numbers are incredible. They should have been contributing a hell of a lot more money than they have been for disease/cancer research, communities, educating, hospitals, healthcare, etc.. They choose to spend it on themselves and their will to create their own fail safe economy.
All of a sudden they are sitting around in their plush offices, lives and planning their next move to become a player because they see it as more of a compition to them. This is apparent from the history they carved in the past.The number of vapors and e cig users that are finding this a safer alternative daily is staggering and they have done the math.
They also know that it is a way to make up for the money they are losing due to vaping.
I may be too much of a conspiracy theory guy but, this is my intuitive reaction. I'm not even going into the govt payoffs and political influence they have developed through the industry. I will bet somewhere there is a connection between govt and RJ Reynolds and/or the rest (my own pshyco babble opinion, I do not know this for a fact).
As far as I am concerned the big tobacco companies can ...off.
I also understand the money and influence they bring to the table is significant but they are hipocrites in my narrow field of vision on the subject.
Don't mean upset anyone, just a guy from Idaho with an education and many years working for the Govt. with an opinion.
I am not a fan of the big companies becoming or playing any part in the vaping game due to all these years making the money that they do from the weak, poor and rich . The numbers are incredible. They should have been contributing a hell of a lot more money than they have been for disease/cancer research, communities, educating, hospitals, healthcare, etc.. They choose to spend it on themselves and their will to create their own fail safe economy.
All of a sudden they are sitting around in their plush offices, lives and planning their next move to become a player because they see it as more of a compition to them. This is apparent from the history they carved in the past.The number of vapors and e cig users that are finding this a safer alternative daily is staggering and they have done the math.
They also know that it is a way to make up for the money they are losing due to vaping.
I may be too much of a conspiracy theory guy but, this is my intuitive reaction. I'm not even going into the govt payoffs and political influence they have developed through the industry. I will bet somewhere there is a connection between govt and RJ Reynolds and/or the rest (my own pshyco babble opinion, I do not know this for a fact).
As far as I am concerned the big tobacco companies can ...off.
I also understand the money and influence they bring to the table is significant but they are hipocrites in my narrow field of vision on the subject.
Don't mean upset anyone, just a guy from Idaho with an education and many years working for the Govt. with an opinion.
That sarcastically comforts me even more pfffft. But yes you are right.
But I love the handwritten thank you letters the Mom and Pop juice places give me at the bottom of my invoices when I make an online purchase! BT won't do that!
My goal for the 2013 year is 40 rebuildable atomizers or atomizer tanks. I will hopefully have 40 of them by newyears 2014. I'd like to eventually have around 80 rebuildable atomizers by 2015 and at least 3 dozen mechanical 510 mods 
The big tobacco comapnies are just trying to addapt into a rapidly changing market and of course to make even more money. But overall I don't think that their involvement into the e-cig market, although inevitable would be for the better.
You can argue with me all you like, I work in clinical research and know what the FDA can be capable of and what oversight they can have. If anyone, anywhere in the US uses it for nicotine delivery, then they CAN label it as such. And moreover, currently they have these classified as a tobacco product, which is totally ludicrous.
Actually I'm glad to see it... money talks. They have the high-powered lawyers to challenge. That's always been the problem fighting for any cause... money. As for the mom and pop shops.. yeh, I saw it happen with low carb products when it was all the craze. They disappeared when the big national brands hopped on but the consumer actually got a break with lower prices than mom and pop could offer. On vaping: If mom and pop make better juice they'll still get the business and, personally, I think they will. BT will also do more research on health related matters for their own protection which we are sorely in need of and should bring state-of-the-art standards to us. Not to mislead on my opinion... yes, some mom and pops would disappear but not the quality ones who are offering a better product than the big national brand vaping ones now even... anyone check out Zickwid prices lately?.... sheesh.
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Regardless what anyone thinks, bt is in it for the money. They don't really care about us, only our money. Just remember that we are now vaping do to bt caring soo much about us. They will get control of the juice and get it regulated. Learn to diy people, their coming!!!
I for one won't patronize ANY of the Big Tobacco companies , not a one, and will continue to buy from the Smaller vaping shops who have been around since the begining or back in 2009 when I started vaping, and I'd rather see them make the $$$ for once its there turn, rather then big tobacco, it's time there products went bye bye ! Big tobacco has done its harm and why I started vaping to get away from all of there products, plus I wouldn't necessarily trust what " extras" they where putting into there juice, not for a second, they'll have people re-addicted to there products, and fast, there not my friends and I've seen to many die from there products, just my personal views.
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