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It can't hurt to try the nautilus tank and will work fine on your pico mod. Just saturate your coils a little before installing and at first try around 10 watts but also take a few pulls without pressing the power button and then wait a few minutes before actually vaping, this will give the coil time to get even more primed. After a while you can increase to around 15 watts on those coils if preferred. Just use the pico in wattage mode and your good to go.

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Thanks to everyone for the guidance you pulled me through it
Vaping 6mg might go to 12mg tommorow see if i can have no analogs
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Yes adjust your nic, even if you feel the need to go way up, the main thing is to get off the cigs. Don't feel by going up that your doing harm or doing something your not supposed to, even if that means 18 or 24mg. Maybe once your totally off cigs, to a point that when you smell them it gets you sick, and you know you will never go back, then maybe you can think about lowering nic, but in the mean time it's very important to vape the necessary nic.
 

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I am ever so happy for you!!! I'm thrilled the Nautilus worked out for you!!! It sure did for me and right around that wattage ball park :). See what a great place this is??? With regard to the weight factor, it's an understandable fear as you note... HOWEVER, I truly believe that the weight gain people refer to as a "side effect" or something that accompanies or is associated with smoking cessation has much to do with an ORAL FIXATION (a repetitive hand to mouth jesture). Choosing to "vape" as a modality to quit smoking satisfies the "hand to mouth" thing, as the action is similar. Another weight correlation relates to Nicotine is a "stimulant" to both your mind and body. While on a SMALL SCALE, nicotine CAN increase your metabolism a baby, baby bit; however, not such in my opinion to cause weight gain if you LOWER your nicotine intake... (These may be happy answers for you, as you're looking to replace your smoking... OK "replace" not a great word.... BUT you are "substituting" vaping for smoking, kind of... or in theory). *The 2 main reasons for the connection between weight gain and smoking cessation, you're covering in choosing to vape as a modality to quit. * Even as I lowered my nicotine intake via vaping from 24mg to 3mg and ceasing smoking overnight, converting to vaping, I did NOT gain weight ...
I'm sorry, another of my VERY LONG WINDED 2 cents/ answer/ response / reply... But YES, as you asked in your post, I can see your concern. I hope the info helps? Continue to enjoy your Nautilus and seriously, don't expect to "blow up" physically, as per this lengthy explanation, I think you have your bases covered.... Also, the fact that you've questioned it suggests that it is on your mind, so, if it pleases you, be mindful of it, knowing that you MAY want to reach for food when you're really not hungry. *You're making good choices for yourself. That's my opinion. I saw that nobody touched on your post regarding the issue, now you have my thoughts as one in health care industry, a therapist, who DID STOP smoking many years ago (stepping to Nautilus Mini VIA vaping)! Congratulations and Vape On!

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Hi Guys, so my progress so far ,
yesterday I had four analogs and numerous vapes! today so far 2 analogs,
my mood feels a bit flat and a bit 'quiet' if that makes sense?
using POET Bourbon Scroll 12mg/30ml so nice to vape at around 10-12 W on my 1.8Ohm coil
I have also around 12 different bottles of MT baker juices of varying flavours and strengths, but i notice they dont have much taste? compared with VGL Reserve and POET I cannot enjoy them, I am next looking to go HALO as I like there high standards and maybe Johnson creek?
but yeah the Mt Bakers arent cutting it any ideas?
 

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I have also around 12 different bottles of MT baker juices of varying flavours and strengths, but i notice they dont have much taste? compared with VGL Reserve and POET I cannot enjoy them, I am next looking to go HALO as I like there high standards and maybe Johnson creek?
but yeah the Mt Bakers arent cutting it any ideas?

Be careful what you wish for. You mention liquids in your post which experienced vapers consider no more than style over substance. The great myth of "premium" e-liquid...
Maybe Mt Baker use less flavor than Halo for example, but simply loading liquid with flavor doesn't make it either premium (in the genuine sense of the word) or more sensible to vape.
There is a popular store in the UK that sells liquid with up to 35% flavor and uses excessive food colorings. Most vapers I know won't even shop there. If you want to enjoy a fruit flavor, maybe better to drink the juice than expect miracles from an e-juice.
Heavy flavor liquids also kill coils, so are expensive above and beyond just the unjustifiable premium price tag.
 

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Hi Guys, so my progress so far ,
yesterday I had four analogs and numerous vapes! today so far 2 analogs,
my mood feels a bit flat and a bit 'quiet' if that makes sense?
using POET Bourbon Scroll 12mg/30ml so nice to vape at around 10-12 W on my 1.8Ohm coil
I have also around 12 different bottles of MT baker juices of varying flavours and strengths, but i notice they dont have much taste? compared with VGL Reserve and POET I cannot enjoy them, I am next looking to go HALO as I like there high standards and maybe Johnson creek?
but yeah the Mt Bakers arent cutting it any ideas?
Tribecca from halo is one of my all time favorites

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You're more than welcome!!! Work has been CRAZY busy, do I'd not had the chance to check in on messages from here. It seems as if you're doing a great job wheening yourself off the analogs :) ! I'm so happy for you!!! As you see, there's LOTS of help here. It seems as if you're getting just that. I certainly have! What is your "flavor profile" (umph, I'm not a fan of those words)... Do you like sweet juices, fruity? Candy? Desert? Flavors??? If you're having trouble "tasting your juice" or if it seems "flat", here are some "tricks" I've learned... (One will help with another issue you've noted concern surrounding, weight).... STAY HYDRATED! Vaping can tend to dehydrate you. Step up your water intake of you can. This has been helpful to me, the more hydrated you are, the less dry your mouth, the more likely you are to be able to "taste your juice". How hydrated you are and stepping up fluid intake can keep your metabolism at a steady rate, even speed it up a bit. This can help to reduce "bloating" as well :) I may be misunderstanding, but it seems as if you may be starting to be experience "vapers tongue"? (obviously, I had to learn about this here; as I, too, have gone through periods of no longer being able to find good flavor in even my most favorite of juices)... HYDRATION is KEY! Also, it can be helpful, even of just for a minute, to vape juice of a different flavor type... When you return to the juice "type" you've normally enjoyed, you may find it enhanced... (There are certain Vapes/ flavors that can "cleanse your palate", like spiriment or something "menthol'y". This, I've not tried, I'm chicken, but it's been recommended at times where I've been unable to "taste my juice" or my normally desired juice flavors became "muted")... It does seem, however, that this may be exactly what you are in the midst of doing .... switching it up. If you've enjoyed the flavors you refer to in your post in the past, you may find that after you've changed things up for a bit, you could return to these flavors to find that will again satisfy you.... (I also may be WAY misunderstanding your situation? Apologies if I am)... Regardless, the hydration part is SOLID. The more hydrated you are, the more hightended are your senses of taste and smell. (WATER is the fluid most highly recommended). Hope that helps? Again, congratulations!

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I am currently on about 20 watts, sometime even about 9 with full air holes opened,
I am not sure what you mean by that coil and nic strength correlation?
The lower the resistance of your coil, the more juice you use so the more vapor you get. More vapor = more nicotine per draw. So 6mg at 0.5 ohm is about equal to 12mg at 1.5 ohm.
Try reducing your power when using the higher nicotine juices. Clouds will be smaller but should be less harsh. Also a 20/80 pg/vg is pretty smooth. PG has more throat hit while VG is smoother.

And yes, drink more water. Both PG and VG absorb moisture. Like from your tongue, throat and lungs...
 

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You're more than welcome!!! Work has been CRAZY busy, do I'd not had the chance to check in on messages from here. It seems as if you're doing a great job wheening yourself off the analogs :) ! I'm so happy for you!!! As you see, there's LOTS of help here. It seems as if you're getting just that. I certainly have! What is your "flavor profile" (umph, I'm not a fan of those words)... Do you like sweet juices, fruity? Candy? Desert? Flavors??? If you're having trouble "tasting your juice" or if it seems "flat", here are some "tricks" I've learned... (One will help with another issue you've noted concern surrounding, weight).... STAY HYDRATED! Vaping can tend to dehydrate you. Step up your water intake of you can. This has been helpful to me, the more hydrated you are, the less dry your mouth, the more likely you are to be able to "taste your juice". How hydrated you are and stepping up fluid intake can keep your metabolism at a steady rate, even speed it up a bit. This can help to reduce "bloating" as well :) I may be misunderstanding, but it seems as if you may be starting to be experience "vapers tongue"? (obviously, I had to learn about this here; as I, too, have gone through periods of no longer being able to find good flavor in even my most favorite of juices)... HYDRATION is KEY! Also, it can be helpful, even of just for a minute, to vape juice of a different flavor type... When you return to the juice "type" you've normally enjoyed, you may find it enhanced... (There are certain Vapes/ flavors that can "cleanse your palate", like spiriment or something "menthol'y". This, I've not tried, I'm chicken, but it's been recommended at times where I've been unable to "taste my juice" or my normally desired juice flavors became "muted")... It does seem, however, that this may be exactly what you are in the midst of doing .... switching it up. If you've enjoyed the flavors you refer to in your post in the past, you may find that after you've changed things up for a bit, you could return to these flavors to find that will again satisfy you.... (I also may be WAY misunderstanding your situation? Apologies if I am)... Regardless, the hydration part is SOLID. The more hydrated you are, the more hightended are your senses of taste and smell. (WATER is the fluid most highly recommended). Hope that helps? Again, congratulations!

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Yeah this time of year is crazy
Im going flat out all the way to Christmas also,
No seriously your help is great and really appreciated,
Next thing in concerned with is having enough stockpiles incase they ban it, what are your thoughts on this?

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The lower the resistance of your coil, the more juice you use so the more vapor you get. More vapor = more nicotine per draw. So 6mg at 0.5 ohm is about equal to 12mg at 1.5 ohm.
Try reducing your power when using the higher nicotine juices. Clouds will be smaller but should be less harsh. Also a 20/80 pg/vg is pretty smooth. PG has more throat hit while VG is smoother.

And yes, drink more water. Both PG and VG absorb moisture. Like from your tongue, throat and lungs...
Eek sounds scary that mousture lung bit you mention
But still gotta be better than ciggies


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The lower the resistance of your coil, the more juice you use so the more vapor you get. More vapor = more nicotine per draw. So 6mg at 0.5 ohm is about equal to 12mg at 1.5 ohm.
Try reducing your power when using the higher nicotine juices. Clouds will be smaller but should be less harsh. Also a 20/80 pg/vg is pretty smooth. PG has more throat hit while VG is smoother.
Eek sounds scary that mousture lung bit you mention
But still gotta be better than ciggies


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not really, you breath it out anyway. Just keep hydrated.
 
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The lower the resistance of your coil, the more juice you use so the more vapor you get. More vapor = more nicotine per draw. So 6mg at 0.5 ohm is about equal to 12mg at 1.5 ohm.
Try reducing your power when using the higher nicotine juices. Clouds will be smaller but should be less harsh. Also a 20/80 pg/vg is pretty smooth. PG has more throat hit while VG is smoother.

And yes, drink more water. Both PG and VG absorb moisture. Like from your tongue, throat and lungs...
I can see what your saying about lower resistances but not really sure it works like that . I think wattage creates more vapor then ohms, along with airflow because I feel if your vaping two exact setups, one with a .7 and one with a 1.4 and vaping both at the same wattage, I doubt the .7 device is putting out twice the nic, especially if you puff both exactly the same. Now maybe you meant (and I'm sorry if I misunderstood ) if your vaping a .5 at let's say the recommended 40 watts (just an example ) and vaping the higher one at that recommendation wattage (let's say 20) then I can see what your saying. I'm just responding because I vape a bunch of rta's and some have coils that are .7 and have some that are 1.4, and I do vape all at around 23 watts and don't see much difference in juice consumption.

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I can see what your saying about lower resistances but not really sure it works like that . I think wattage creates more vapor then ohms, along with airflow because I feel if your vaping two exact setups, one with a .7 and one with a 1.4 and vaping both at the same wattage, I doubt the .7 device is putting out twice the nic, especially if you puff both exactly the same. Now maybe you meant (and I'm sorry if I misunderstood ) if your vaping a .5 at let's say the recommended 40 watts (just an example ) and vaping the higher one at that recommendation wattage (let's say 20) then I can see what your saying. I'm just responding because I vape a bunch of rta's and some have coils that are .7 and have some that are 1.4, and I do vape all at around 23 watts and don't see much difference in juice consumption.

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lol Actually, im a bit lazy. When I say lower ohm, I mean heavier wire, more surface area and more watts to heat it. Basically a throw back to mechs. I just got used to building lower resistance for more vapor, and I use the resistance and voltage to determine the watts I need to heat the wire using the heat flux app. Like my box mod will do 200w, but a coil needing say 240w wouldn't be much good, SO I calculate all that first. :) I know some people are going to chime in with.. "I've been vaping for 89 years now and never went over 8 watts... nobody needs too do 200w" But.. "they dun know me vewwy well, do they?" LOL I have this massive temple rda with omg like 30 air holes.. HELL YEAH I need 200w.

OH yeah.. and low resistance needs thicker, lower resistance wire. The thicker the wire, the bigger the cloud, and bigger the cloud the more nic you get per puff. By thicker I mean more mass / surface area. LOL Just in case someone is saying.. I ONLY USE 40ga stainless steel!! (like 20 strands twisted..lol)
 

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lol Actually, im a bit lazy. When I say lower ohm, I mean heavier wire, more surface area and more watts to heat it. Basically a throw back to mechs. I just got used to building lower resistance for more vapor, and I use the resistance and voltage to determine the watts I need to heat the wire using the heat flux app. Like my box mod will do 200w, but a coil needing say 240w wouldn't be much good, SO I calculate all that first. :) I know some people are going to chime in with.. "I've been vaping for 89 years now and never went over 8 watts... nobody needs too do 200w" But.. "they dun know me vewwy well, do they?" LOL I have this massive temple rda with omg like 30 air holes.. HELL YEAH I need 200w.

OH yeah.. and low resistance needs thicker, lower resistance wire. The thicker the wire, the bigger the cloud, and bigger the cloud the more nic you get per puff. By thicker I mean more mass / surface area. LOL Just in case someone is saying.. I ONLY USE 40ga stainless steel!! (like 20 strands twisted..lol)
I thought that's what you meant... yes lower ohms with that cable your vaping with and higher wattage , no doubt creates more of everything. Man 40g wire and 200 watts! That's some serious vaping... how much juice does that go thru? And what car battery do you use? Lol

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