Blown away by bettery life...

[Baditude]

To Spydro:

AW IMR batteries are the most counterfeited batteries in the APV and flashlight market. My bet is those are not genuine AW batteries. I have over a dozen AW IMR batteries, and they consistantly outperform the few Efest IMR's that I have tried.

RTD Vapor is an authorized AW brand supplier, and they said via email inquiry that they buy directly from AW in China. AW is actually a supplier in China whose name is Andrew Wan.

Is it an OK practice to use the battery until the Provari shuts itself off?
I have the Mini Stealth, and thus there is no flashing button to tell me the battery is getting low.
I know I can still check the battery through the menu, and I do that occasionally...but most of the time I just vape until it quits, then change the battery.
So...is that a bad habit?

The Provari has over-discharge protection; ie it monitors the battery voltage and will automatically turn off when the battery is discharged to a certain voltage. Since you can not see your Stealth Provari making the fire button blink giving the warning that the battery is low, your Provari will automatically stop firing at a certain voltage before the batteries become over-discharged.

 

[Ozwald]

I think we're about to get schooled...

...<smart stuff>...

Called it

Bad, do you know what kind (chemistry-wise) of battery the AW's are?

 

[Baditude]

AW sells both protected ICR and IMR (Li-Mn) batteries. The protected cells with black/silver jackets are a lithium ion, cobalt-based chemistry. The red IMR cells are also a lithium ion chemistry, with manganese in the chemistry making them a safe chemistry and high drain battery.

Protected ICR AW 18650

IMR AW 18650

The AW protected ICR batteries are most likely originally purchased from Panasonic. The AW team puts them thru a battery of tests (no pun intended) checking for quality specifications, they then use only the top tier to be sold as AW. They rewrap these with the black and silver wrappers and add the AW sticker. AW protected batteries say on the label, "Made in China, (IC and cell made in Japan)."

The AW IMR's are a bit of a mystery. Panasonic and the other Japanese battery manufacturers do not appear to make nor sell IMR batteries in the 18350 or 18490 size, but AW offers them in that size. AW IMR batteries say only, "Made in China." So, who makes the AW IMR batteries?

Only speculating here, as Andrew Wan doesn't say. My guess is the red IMR AW batteries are manufactured by a China company. Does it matter? The AW IMR has built up and earned the reputation as the best and safest battery made for several years now. And it is because of this fact that they are the most counterfeited battery on the planet. Alibaba sells so-called "AW" IMR batteries which don't even look like the genuine AW battery by a long shot.

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

 

[amanda211]

Just posting to say I love the typo in the title.

From now on, all good batteries should be called "betteries" lol

Not to hijack the thread, but wow Zoe, you were missed!

 

[Spydro]

To Spydro:

AW IMR batteries....

Thanks for all the great info Bad. Whether I save a few bucks on batteries or not doesn't matter to me at all. I just bought these where I found them in stock while buying other stuff. Now I know that there is in fact a list of "authorized" dealers I'll buy my batts from them. So far I guess that means RTD or ProVape (from what the Big Sky Boy posted - LOL). I've bought other things from RTD and my last ProVari from ProVape, so I already have accounts set up with them.

 

[Ronald3638]

It's best to change out the battery once it hits about 3.7-3.8 volt range. It's not recommended to run the battery down until it's dead. The lowest I've gone is about 3.6 volts. That's when my iTaste SVD shuts itself off. I was testing the thing out to see what voltage I had when the SVD shut off.

I use Panasonic NCR18650PF batteries which last me all day long with no issues at all, sometimes they'll last about 1-1/2 days.

The cutoff on the SVD is about 3.2 or 3.3 volts, the light on the button will go from yellow to red once below 3.6 volts.

I have an SVD, Vamo and SID and if I started recharging the batteries when they hit 3.8 volts I wouldn't get much vape time out of any of them.

I've heard that 3.5 volts is the magic number for getting the most number of recharge cycles out of a battery.

 

[qorax]

My Efests perform exactly like my AWs. Same energy pack, same lifespan and same discharge cycle. My guess is both procure & package the same/similar IMRs ~ from the same source/s. I have absolutely no qualms in using Efests!

Consumer Battery Manufacturers:
AW is not a battery manufacturer AFAIK. They are just repackagers (exactly like Efest), but are known to 'procure & package' the best of the best batteries in the market. Which incidentally, are usually Panasonics.

The top consumer battery manufacturers are:
(A) Alkaline: Duracell, Energizer, Gold Peak (Lithium also), Hitachi Maxell, Mugen Power (Lithium too), Nippo, Rayovac
(B) Lithium: LG, Panasonic (Alkaline also), Sanyo (Alkaline also), Sony, Tadiran, Uniross (Alkaline also), VARTA (Alkaline also)
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^in alphabetical order
Ref: www.wikipedia.org

And my AW IMRs are genuine as well, coming from our very own ECF supplier Wonderlite. Thru his site - Nitemods. While my Efests again come genuine from our trusted Canadian vendor - Canvape. Personally - for the price, one can't go wrong with the Efests either.

 

[ease21]

I've had mixed results with efest batts. After about 20 cycles or so, they last about 2/3 as long as aw with three times as many cycles. The quality seems lower to me in the efest, I realize they both just repack batteries, but the aw seems to have more QC along the way.

 

[ChiefAllDay]

I am sort of kicking myself for spending a small fortune on a bunch of Efest 18650s and a pair of Orbtronics 18650s... only to have my AW 18490s last me well over an entire day of vaping.
I don't know how Provape does it, and don't wanna know. I have convinced myself it's magic!

 

[PLANofMAN]

Super T ~ Batteries SuperT is also an AW authorized reseller. He started off on the CandlePower forums (high end flashlight forum).

ProVari's are 95% efficient. only 5% of the battery's power is wasted.

Edit: This is from AW's old sales thread in the candlepowerforum:
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Beware (Fake AW Sellers) !!!!!:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/70..._7V_18650.html

http://www.sz-eyoung.com/sdp/1232278...y_Battery.html

http://www.powerwholesale.net/AW-IMR...ry-p-1804.html

Shenzhen FYTE Technology Co., Ltd. - battery,charger

http://www.sz-fyate.com/product/inde...type_id-1.html

http://www.sz-worldsales.com/categor...W+battery.html

Shenzhen Lupping Gift Co., Ltd. - battery,battery charger

http://jianlinkeji.en.alibaba.com/pr...warranty_.html

http://www.fairy-gift.com/aw-18650-i...tery-p-36.html

http://gaoduomei.en.made-in-china.co...m-Battery.html

Shenzhen Sibeile Technology Co., Ltd.

Shenzhen Honghaosheng Electronics Co., Ltd. - Polymer Lithium Battery,18650 Battery Pack

Batteries/Chargers

Shenzhen Aweite Battery Technology Co., Limited - battery,rechargeable battery

AW battery - Shenzhen Hcigar Technology Co., Ltd.

http://qixu.en.alibaba.com/productgr...W_Battery.html

http://www.smokenmist.com/product/aw...eable-battery/

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/ecoluxshop...1&_ipg=&_from=

All resellers in Alibaba.com are selling fakes - Beware!!


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