blue foam dangers?
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I get mine from Petco, they do not sell it at WalMart. It is called "Marineland Bonded Foam Sleeve RITE-SIZE U
You cut it up into little pieces, About a zillion for a package, and stuff it in the carts.
Just forget the blue foam and go with the Fluval water filter cleaning material. We've tried blue foam, polyfill, and Fluval. Been using Fluval since about October of last year. Still working on the same $5 box. buy it at Petco or Petsmart, one of those.
I've noticed the same thing! Fluval seems interestingThe only problem I have with blue foam is that I use up my e-juice 2x faster.
The only problem I have with blue foam is that I use up my e-juice 2x faster.
this may be true... but it seems to me that my carts last longer with bf , and in the end.. thats what matters to me
Shaka...
The vaporisation chamber does not reach 500F- or anywhere near that. External measurements have shown temps of over 160F. If it was 500F- that kinf of energy would melt all the plastic parts and burn your hands.
This is just incorrect information.
I'm using blue foam in my eGo carts too, and I love it. It's wicking efficiently and there is less flooding risk.
Happy vaping folks
I must admit, since I switched to bf I haven't had any flooding issues. Overall it works out very well.
I still might try fluval, haven't done so yet so why not lol
Does the blue foam vape with good flavor until it's vaped dry? Using fluval right now and no way to vape it dry. It's wasting my liquid, but if the blue foam is toxic I wouldn't want to save liquid that way.
I don't vape it completely dry. I usually get all the fluid out of the cart but the foam itself holds some of the juice that does not wick.
BLUE FOAM is used in FISH TANKS, if it were toxic it would kill the fish.
Fish are by far more sensitive to toxins than humans, if it won't harm a fish, it wont harm you.
Just thought I'd add, that I only put blue foam in 1/4th of the cart, I plug it.
I take the foam out.. fill the cart almost all the way up, tweezer the foam in, and top it off with another drop or 2. I vape it almost dry, however, the foam does hold some juice that won't go through at the end. Overall it does a good job. I'm using 50/50 juice. If I use pure PG juice with blue foam plug method I get ejuice in my mouth
I take the foam out.. fill the cart almost all the way up, tweezer the foam in, and top it off with another drop or 2. I vape it almost dry, however, the foam does hold some juice that won't go through at the end. Overall it does a good job. I'm using 50/50 juice. If I use pure PG juice with blue foam plug method I get ejuice in my mouth
I have often vaped Fluval so dry that when I took off the cart the dry Fluval was actually stuck to the atomizer. Dry as a bone.
Every time I've tried the blue foam I have a seriously leaking problem. Ah well, to each his own. Ya vape what works best for you.
Sorry for not getting back to this thread earlier havent had much time to spend on the keyboard lately.
Well Drozd, since I didnt do my own tests, I retract that statement about the temperature. I dabbled in tempering metal and I know any metal, whether its steel or the tungsten filament of a light bulb, have approximate generally accepted temps for a given color, and its a fact that any metal hot enough to emit light (glows) is well over 500F. The tip temp of my soldering iron runs at about 650F and its nowhere close to glowing.
So I decided to look it up and heres a part of a table from The Physics Factbook an encyclopedia of scientific essays written by high school students (there are many others):
Process Associates of America, Metal Temperature by Color
Color Approximate Temperature
°F °C K
Faint Red 930 500 770
Blood Red 1075 580 855
Dark Cherry 1175 635 910
Medium Cherry 1275 690 965
Cherry 1375 745 1020
Bright Cherry 1450 790 1060
So I do find it hard to believe that the atty coil, which can run bright red (as you know when you dry burn), is 32F less than the temperature of boiling water. So if I put a drop of juice on something out of the oven at 180F the juice should vaporize? Maybe Ill try that. In any event, consider it retracted because this issue really detracts from my main motivation for posting.
The primary intent for my post and the link to the past thread was to raise some red flags, some caution, and hopefully prompt people to pay a little more attention into what theyre sucking into their lungs at least do some research and make an educated choice. You see, I lost two friends to a substance thought to be totally harmless (asbestos). What alarmed me most in that older thread was what Kristin said: But I have read that it can start to degrade at 240F degrees, so I'm a little wary of polyurethane. Thats not too much hotter than boiling water!
I go back to the closing statements in my post: Members should do their own research after reading this [linked thread] and then make their own personal decision. Is it worth the risk? Especially since there are other cart mods that work just as well, perhaps better than the BFM.
That was my intent, period. And if I got a few people thinking, or even erring on the side of caution, then I achieved my purpose.
I'm with you Shaka....
I have been looking for some Color / Temperature data on NiChrome wire. Seems that most people will not except that a atomizer coil wire could Not be made of Anything Else.
Since you mentioned that you have dabbled in Metallurgy and Heat treating, I'm sure you have seen this Iron-Carbon Diagram before.
I am using fibrglass cloth with great results. Wicks almost every last drop. I have no bad burned taste when dry either, just a little dry atty "reminder" taste.
BTW - I know this isn't a great comparision. But I used a direct contact probe thermometer on my toaster, NiChrome heating elements, and when it was Bright Red I measured it at around 425F.
The problem I have is I don't know how accurate the calibration is on my thermomter? For Ice it reads 34F and for boing Water it reads 204F on the side of the pot.
The problem I have is I don't know how accurate the calibration is on my thermomter? For Ice it reads 34F and for boing Water it reads 204F on the side of the pot.
When something uses your juice faster, that just means you're getting more ooomph.The only problem I have with blue foam is that I use up my e-juice 2x faster.
And that is exactly what many of us are after.
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