Based on your logic I guess we should thank Wall St and the Big Banks for their actions in 2008 leading to the Great Recession,which we are still in. After all it was just " good old capitalism " at work.
It's not a question of "my opinion", that's just a way of saying I'm mistaken, or that no truth exists. To tell you the truth, I don't follow your presentation one iota. So-called speculation is one of the mainstays of free-market capitalism. Aren't the most basic business guidelines "buy low and sell high", and the corollary "buy in plenty, sell in shortage"? There are laws and rules against fraud, misrepresentation, collusion-price fixing, trademark violations, etc. I can see you say you consider Smoktek's actions (without AVE's explicit agreement, let's leave that out) shady and "screwing customers", and I see that you are presenting examples of actions you consider shady, but I don't see any argument or logic as to what ethical or legal rules you consider broken, and how. Can you clarify?
Based on your logic I guess we should thank Wall St and the Big Banks for their actions in 2008 leading to the Great Recession,which we are still in. After all it was just " good old capitalism " at work.
I guess my kind of moral high ground for thinking this is a little screwed up would be that these are the AV "signature" Flavors. I don't think there's anyone in the world except Ben and co that could recreate them, and at no point has AV said "oh hey, I know I'm out of stock, but smoktek.com has some that I've been cooking up for resellers.". That means this was created under the guise of being a customer and then resold to turn a profit from doing absolutely no work. It's simply a shady business practice, and with the occasional issues we see with "shadiness" in vendors, the last thing I want to see in this industry right now is more deception.
That's the system we live under. I never said I agreed with it. In fact I don't. So if someone says that a case that breaks none of the rules is shady, meaning they find it unethical, I presume their reasoning reaches outside the box, to a value system not centered on profit. And THAT's interesting, so I truly want to hear what that reasoning and system of reference is.
Fernand, I agree completely. There is a vender selling Halo juice at a higher price than Halo, is that wrong? Well in a word, No! You pay Your money, You make Your choice. Capitalism can only work properly in a free market.It's not a question of "my opinion", that's just a way of saying I'm mistaken, or that no truth exists. To tell you the truth, I don't follow your presentation one iota. So-called speculation is one of the mainstays of free-market capitalism. Aren't the most basic business guidelines "buy low and sell high", and the corollary "buy in plenty, sell in shortage"? There are laws and rules against fraud, misrepresentation, collusion-price fixing, trademark violations, etc. I can see you say you consider Smoktek's actions (without AVE's explicit agreement, let's leave that out) shady and "screwing customers", and I see that you are presenting examples of actions you consider shady, but I don't see any argument or logic as to what ethical or legal rules you consider broken, and how. Can you clarify?
Socialism and Capitalism are complete opposites. Please read Milton Friedmans work on free market capitalism.Agree. My point had nothing to do with the case here, just that what may be acceptable and legal may NOT be right. Any economic system that has NO ethical boundaries eventually leads to problems. Aka, socialism and capitalism.
Socialism and Capitalism are complete opposites. Please read Milton Friedmans work on free market capitalism.
I haven't seen a lack of ethics as the main problem in socialist countries like Sweden and Denmark. Not in the least. Very proper, fair and ethical. As to the main problem, boredom is more like it.
Resource Based Economy... just throwing that out there... always an option and not enough debate about its merits... lets go people, jump on this pork chop... <--- this needs moar "..."
I haven't seen a lack of ethics as the main problem in socialist countries like Sweden and Denmark. Not in the least. Very proper, fair and ethical. As to the main problem, boredom is more like it.