boiling out the alcohol

[mohsaf]

Has anyone tried to boil off the ethanol in the eliquids. I hate having it there... and after researching the ingredients (dekang vg usa mix) i put the liquid in a glass container emersed in a boiling water bath for several minutes... ethanol should boil off at 78 oC.... the question is would anything cause it to bind to the liquid and remain... and should i be concerned about any thermal degradation of the other ingredients???​

 

[Nightseer]

Hm-not sure, but doesn't nicotine break down in heat?

 

[clark8876]

Here too not my realm of expertise, but I don't believe there would be too much ethanol in the liquids, if at all in USA Mix.

I thought the only place it would come from is the flavour used which is a very low percentage of the actual mix. A lot of the flavourings are also water based not alcohol based.

Could be wrong though....that's happened before!!!!

 

[o4_srt]

Hm-not sure, but doesn't nicotine break down in heat?

sure does, that's why it's not good to leave ejuice in the car

 

[mohsaf]

i checked out there dekang's website it said 10% acetylpyradine,ethanol
i contacted todd at vaperite some of his liquid does have ethanol
i also bought some from clouds of vapor bruce also said tht his liquid has ethanol

i dont know about the nicotine breaking down though .... i guess we need a chemist to haev a look

 

[mohsaf]

also i researched nicotine and it boils at 247 oC .... but i dont know if it starts to breakdown before that.... and if so into what?

 

[clark8876]

i checked out there dekang's website it said 10% acetylpyradine,ethanol
i contacted todd at vaperite some of his liquid does have ethanol
i also bought some from clouds of vapor bruce also said tht his liquid has ethanol

i dont know about the nicotine breaking down though .... i guess we need a chemist to haev a look

I think I understand you concerns mohsaf, maybe you could ask todd if he has a tobacco flavoured liquid that is based on the water-based flavours.

Other than that if you move to non-tobacco flavours, which most of us do, I'm sure you can get away from the ethanol. Two that come to mind are coffee & coconut but I haven't researched what the flavourings are based upon.

 

[mohsaf]

also think about it this way most nic gets burned away in analogs..... and the temperature in our atomisers isn't exactly low

 

[grantemsley]

In most recipies I've seen ethanol is used to bind things together...I guess some flavors and such aren't soluble in PG or PV, but are in ethanol, and ethanol is soluble in PG....so it holds things together. I'm not a chemist, so I don't really know what happens if you get rid of the ethanol.

 

[mohsaf]

I have seen threads were alcoholics r concerned about the alcohol content.... others have said that they used ethanol in DIY liquids and have reverted to distilled water which is just as good
i think vendors should have and alcohol free option available to people who r concerened

 

[clark8876]

also think about it this way most nic gets burned away in analogs..... and the temperature in our atomisers isn't exactly low

From what I understand from the Modders forum, most of the atomisers are operating at 160-180 degrees. Can't recall if that C or F but the nicotine would be unaffected whether it was either.

 

[mohsaf]

so probably it wouldn't be affected by boiling at 100 oC
so the question remains will this operation remove all the ethanol form the mixture

 

[Maddoktor2]

For the most part, alcohol tends to increase the TH - some mixologists actually use or add vodka to their blends for that extra "kick", so if alcohol content is a concern, it's always best to ask your juicer of preference about it - most are more than happy to provide a list of the ingredients they use.

 

[mohsaf]

if think the nic gives enough of a Throat hit...

some suppliers mentioned that the alcohol was added to make the mix a little less thick especially in VG liquids???