brand new to vaping

[all2kind]

Hi

I'm brand new to vaping, ecigs, etc.
I'm a heavy smoker and would like to try the alternative way but I've been really disapointed.
I would like a heavy vapor with lots of throat hit and a lot of flavor. Also I would like to find something, that I can repeatedly use. what I mean is the cartridge runs out before I'm done, or I can't take more then two drags or it stops working. I just ordered a standard 502 cheapest I could find.
I would like to get some recommandations from people who have done this for a while! I'm not willing to lay down a lot of money for things that just don't work.
thank you for responding

 

[keyzygirl]

Look at the 808s,I get mine at Vapor4life.The batteries are a bit stronger and they use cartomizers that last for hours instead of minutes.Just an idea and something to check out.Ive been using then for over a year and I love them.

 

[Rosa]

Also: you will want your cartomizers (the 'filter' part that screws on) to be 24mg e-liquid with a PG base instead of a VG base.

 

[acorn54]

i am a heavy vapor. sit and vape practically all day, with few breaks in between.
808 batteries are for light use imo.
i use the cig easy elegant kit from cig easy. you get two elegant batteries and a charger.
chain vaping i get four hours or so from one charge. while the other elegant battery is on the charger.
for best cartomizers i use the vapor for life coolcarts. high quality, you won't be disappointed.
they last quite awhile on one load of ejuice.
anyway i have been using this routine since august and i am satisfied.
of course if you like to fiddle around and make a big production from evaping then this is not the way to go
the elegant is really for someone who just wants the simplest approach to evaping.

 

[Zurd]

Make your own eliquid, you'll have total control over the throat hit and the flavor, just buy some PG nicotine, some PG and VG without nicotine, a few bottles, few syringues and flavors from lorann's oil or whatever brand and start mixing. All info are in the DIY subforum here.

If you vape a lot, charging batteries can be cumbersome, try a box mod using a 14500 or a 18650 battery, plenty of battery life and charging time is fast, makes life better.

 

[DC2]

what I mean is the cartridge runs out before I'm done, or I can't take more then two drags or it stops working.

What you are dealing with there is wicking issues.
That means you are vaping up the juice faster than it has time to wick up more juice from the cartridge.

There are a number of ways to deal with that issue...
1) Learn how to drip
2) Use a better cartridge filler material
3) Look into using cartomizers

 

[DC2]

Also, your goals of heavy vapor and strong throat hit are somewhat at odds because...

PG = strong throat hit and less vapor
VG = more vapor and less throat hit

One thing you might want to strongly consider is trying some lower resistance atomizers.
That can increase both vapor production and throat hit at the same time.

 

[spirits3250]

I smoked 2 PAD, 3 on the weekends. The only thing that has worked for me so far is dripping on a Riva. It costs $30 plus shipping from Liberty Flights. For juice, I've tried several but since I vape like 24/7 I go for the bargain juice. Vapor Renu is $7.50 for 30 ml. Some of it is very good, some not so much. This is my "heavy smoker on a budget" vaping plan. It's working for me. It's been almost 6 months.

 

[NoMatches]

I use the V4L XL batteries, which are 808's. They are pretty good, but can't deliver the way my V4L USB bypass does. It seems the difference is in the voltage, the battery being 3.8 volts and the bypass being 5 volts. More flavor, throat hit and vapor with the bypass.

I was on 2 to 3 PAD (packs a day) before going to just vaping now 5 days ago. Going cheap isn't going to satisfy you. If you expect to go to E-Cigs and find one that is exactly like smoking anaolgs, real tobacco cigs, you won't find it. It gets close, but don't expect any E-Cig to do everything an analog does in terms of the experience.

If you want to quit tobacco, you will have to accept at least some trade offs. You can get a very high quality kit for $60. V4L has a couple at that price with a USB bypass.

In this case, you give up a little to gain alot. If you aren't willing to give up a little, you probably aren't ready to quit yet IMO. Only 5 days in and I'm less congested in the morning, don't cough anywhere near as much and don't stink. I'm also saving a ton of money. Depends on what is most important to you I think.

 

[Stosh]

..... I just ordered a standard 502 cheapest I could find....

Your vaping experience will be effected by three major variables.

First the battery or power source, it can be 3.2v, 3.7v, 5v, 6v or even variable voltage.
What this effects is the heat of the vapor, amont of vapor, and throat hit, higher voltage
will give you more of each. If you have a cigarette sized battery the power drops off
so fast it's not going to produce enough vapor to satisify.
I've found 3.7v with a big enough battery to supply it for a while works for me. YMMV

Second you have the attys or cartos, these actually heat the juice to make the vapor.
There is a very wide variety, some easier to use and or fill than others.
The big difference here is the ohms, resistance of the atty or carto, lower resistance
will be hotter, higher resistance last longer. These are a matter of personal preference,
but an average 2.5-3.0 ohms will work. Adjustments can be made as you find what
you like best.

Third is the juice and nicotine level. There is VG based, lots of vapor, lighter flavor,
smoother, less throat hit. PG based have less vapor, more flavor and throat hit.
I like a 50/50 mix, many vapers prefer 80PG/20VP. The nicotine level is very personal,
depending on your vaping habit. I was a 1 1/2 pad smoke 'em to the filter, strong cig
smoker. It took a very high level 30-36mg/mL juice to kill my cravings. YMMV

 

[keyzygirl]

Yup,I dont think a brand new vaper should think about mixing and mods.

Get a nice 808 starter kit and some carto sampler packs and try it.Take it slow and dont stress yourself out.Dont worry about everything else,you can move up if and when your ready.Just get something that works and give it a go.

 

[all2kind]

Thank you all for such nice replies, and so much info, I have to admit I'm a little overwhelmed.
Yes I know I won't find the same thing from vaping, I have to quit plain and simple and I'm willing to make a few sacrifices.
But there must be something out there that will keep me satisfied. I read a lot about people using the joyce ego, is that something you would recomand for a heavy smoker? and could someone tell me how to use a drip tip? do they replace prefilled filters? and what is a bypass?
You are all very kind thank you so much for putting up with me.

 

[all2kind]

Wow thanks for all the info, could you please tell me what you opted for. I mean what kind of vapor stick do you have, I'm looking into the joyce ego would you recromand that one for a heavy 2pad a day smoker.

 

[DC2]

Let me put it to you this way, you will like the Ego far more than what you've tried so far.
And you can get a starter kit cheap enough to give it a shot.

As a heavy smoker though, it may or may not be all you need.
The heaviest smokers often have to move up to higher voltage devices to get what they need.

But at two packs per day, you aren't as heavy of a smoker as you think.
At least not when you are amongst this crowd.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Liberty-flight.com has a good sized inventory of JoyTech ecigs ranging from a 510(280 battery) to the new ego-t which is a 1000mah battery They also carry ego 650 and 900. And also an ego passthrough(these are charged thru any usb port and you can use them while charging or if you are on the go. Just unplug them--they work off the usb also. They also give very good descriptions on their products. I was a heavy smoker and am a heavy vaper. As for ejuice, FSUSA is having a valentine special today. I have heard that Purecig from FSUSA tastes just like tobacco(haven't tried that one myself) and they have excellent flavors and service. BWB is good also. Hope this helps.
I am not associated with any of the above vendors, just a vaper. Also, if you look at the top of the screen you will see a link for supplier. ECF shows all of the vendors there.

sas

 

[NoMatches]

Thank you all for such nice replies, and so much info, I have to admit I'm a little overwhelmed.
Yes I know I won't find the same thing from vaping, I have to quit plain and simple and I'm willing to make a few sacrifices.
But there must be something out there that will keep me satisfied. I read a lot about people using the joyce ego, is that something you would recomand for a heavy smoker? and could someone tell me how to use a drip tip? do they replace prefilled filters? and what is a bypass?
You are all very kind thank you so much for putting up with me.

A USB bypass is a non-wireless device that replaces the battery, and hooks directly into your computer USB port. You can also find wall adapters that can convert ac power into a USB port. The difference is in the voltage. The bypass uses 5 volts, the batteries use 3.8.

I get a lot more vapor, flavor and throat hit with my bypass. You will see people talking about "mods" and as I understand it, these are basically juiced up batteries that deliver higher voltages. I am also looking at the MaXX Fusion from Bloog, apparently it has an adjustable voltage output in a wireless battery configuration.

My 808 batteries don't deliver what I'm looking for, while the USB bypass does, but I'm still learning too.

 

[Stosh]

An ego / riva type or a KR808 are great starter models, kits are widely available
resonable priced, and they are simple to use. Finding the right cart/atty combo,
or carto or tank can be tougher, start simple the ego comes with carts or tank,
the KR808 comes with cartos, either will work. You can find many threads on ECF
where 1/2 perfer one, 1/2 the other, compared to the price of cigarettes 2 pad you
can buy both for the price of a couple cartons and have money left over for juice.

I used an ego for quite some time before finding my present vape, (a $$$$ mod)
ego's are rugged, battery lasts, good vapor and can use the ego mega type B atty,
which is still one of my favorites.

Dripping is putting a few drops of juice directly on the atty and vaping till it's gone,
always been too short a time for me, other swear by it.

 

[Cynderbelle]

You can not go wrong with the Joye Ego starter kit. I myself started out with the 510 kit and I dont regret it but I did order an Ego passthru with it. A passthru is simply a battery that you can plug into a usb power supply and continue to use it. I chose the Ego over the 510 because it doubles as a stand alone battery. I still prefer the look and feel of the 510 but the Ego size does not bother me us much as I thought it would and the battery does last a lot longer. The drip tip is really simple, it is just a hollow mouthpiece that fits on your atty in place of a cart. You drip a few drops of juice thru it and vape away, it lasts for several drags then when you feel it getting dry you drip a few more drops of juice. I am new to vaping just 3 wks for me . I was a 2-3 pad smoker myself. With the 510 you will need to change the batteries more often, I have a total of 4 510 batteries 2 reg and 2 mega. The EGO battery lasts me most of the day.

 

[Rosa]

Yes, if you get an eGo/Riva kit (which I do recommend) then you can add a low resistance atomizer to your cart and a drip tip and this will mimic vaping with a higher voltage e-cig..


Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510
http://www.liberty-flights.com/product.asp?id=44
Mods - Drip Tips


This will help a heavy smoker quit smoking and switch to vaping.

Drip tips replace the cart/carto on the end of the e-cig. With a drip tip you can drip 2-3 drops of e-liquid directly into the atomizer and not have to deal with carts or cartomizers. Drip tips eliminate the middle man.

Also: the passthrough is super-cool:
Electronic Cigarette - Pass-throughs - Joye eGo

 

[Rosa]

ps: you can even get lower resistance cartomizers if you want the ease of using a cartomizer but you still want the low resistance oomph (look at the 2.0 ohm):
Electronic Cigarette - Cartomizers - Boge Cartomizers