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I am going to stick my foot in the water and say something that may be unpopular. I do not think a new vaper should be starting off with a mech and a sub ohm setup. Not until you learn about battery safety and how all this stuff works. You can do some harm to yourself and others around you, like a battery meltdown if you build a coil wrong and short something out.

Best to stick to regulated vv/vw devices for the beginning until you get to learn how all this works. Depending on your background that could be a couple weeks to a long time. I have 5 Russian 91% and 2 kayfun Lite Plus that I have been building my own coils for and wicking with Koh Gen Doh cotton for about a year. It takes practice and you may find that you do not need all that extra wattage and sub ohm power to provide you a satisfying vape.

Just my 2 cents.

Thank you for both of your replies :) . Your point may be pretty much proven solely due to the fact that I have no idea what anything you said means. I found an article that gives me a pretty bare bones explanation of what a mech is, but but I'm still not 100% sure. I didn't see anything on the iStick 30W page that said it was a mech or non-regulated (although I didn't see anything that said contrary to me either).

Thank you for your help, I DO appreciate both of your replies. That link you gave contains a LOT of information. But while I have you here, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind answering a few (or not so few) more questions you raised :) :

How do you tell if it is a mech?

What are the problems with using sub-ohm, along with the benefits?

Also, what is the deal with coils? From what I can tell from the articles I've been looking through they're mainly in clearos right? What is the difference between the wicks and the coils, or is a coil literally the name for a coiled up wick?

Would I have this problem with coils if I were to use an atomizer tank? I believe this eGo I have (Vapin Plus 1100 MAH) is an atomizer (it says it on the box at least). All I have to do is fill it up with liquid and it vapes for a while (2.5 ML tank but it recommends only going to 2.3 so it doesn't overflow into the center on accident).

The same article doesn't say anything about coils in an atomizer, although it does mention dripping. Does having a tank the can hold liquid like my eGo eliminate the need to drip an atomizer?


Sorry for having so many questions, I'm like sitting on the fence of which one to purchase, and I was getting closer to the iStick 30W but you made some valid points, and the last thing I want to do is buy it and it explodes in my hand or something the first day I use it because I've set it up wrong.
 

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Aspire Nautilus or Aspire Nautilus Mini are both great like them both. like the k 1 too they're about $8. if you don't want to change battery mvp 2 a good choice .it rugged.my wife likes her i stick .ild get i stick 30 or mvp20 it would give room to grow. Variable Voltage/Wattage Ecig Mods has them now.
good luck i know its a hard choice.
 

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I started with the Halo G6 because I needed the real cigalike feel, then I stepped up to the Halo Triton. Now OMG, I use the iStick with a Nauti mini tank. I love the flavor I get from the Nauti tanks. I also love the length of use I get from the iStick battery, my battery lasts me 2 days without having to recharge!!:banana:.
 
Hello...*wall of text removed from quote to save space and peoples eyes :p*...Remi Love

Thanks for the reply! For as long and blocky as that post was (not like I can talk about length), I read through the whole thing. Its got some pretty good information in there so thanks for that :) . The only downside really is that since you didn't use any kind of spacing and left it as a wall, if I want to look at the information again (because there really is some good stuff in there for a new vaper) I pretty much have to reread a lot of it. Its just really hard to pick out a specific piece of information you were giving me :p

Still though, thank you for taking the time to respond and provide me with so much info :)
 
Congratulations on quiting smoking and choosing an healthier alternative. I have a MVP 20 W its all that I need i use tanks on it from 6 watts to 12 watts and i use my dripping set up from 10 watts to 16 watts its all good. Sub ohm is great if you plan on blowing massive clouds of vapor so far i have used 2 ohm coils and it works great This thing does all I need for around 35 bucks 42 with shipping . I can control my watts and volts separately . It has a built in ohm reader and thats all I really need plus its a 2600 mah battery i go for 2 days before charging agian . forgot this point you can charge anything off this thing i was 3 hours from home and my cell phone died in a short time it was half charged and i still had enough charge to vape all day. I wonder if you can solar charge this thing when camping . this is a winner for me i will be able to do so much with this in the future.
 

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Honestly, the istick 30 watt and a Nautilus BVC will work for you. It is a good set-up that may be all you ever need. There are a plethora of different options to suit different needs, and the combination of needs and what fulfills them leads to the wide variety of responses. Just starting out, simple and effective is the way to go. If you stay with it, you are going to spend more money, maybe more than you did smoking, but you feel so much better doing it. Mech....sub-ohming....rebuilding....battery safety, that will all come with time, but with just the the iStick and Nautilus, you just need to know how to change a coil and decide which juice you want, which will lead to another thread like this, as taste is VERY subjective....lol.
 

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I'm going to agree with ShariR and say that an MVP 2.0 with a Nautilus tank (not the mini) would be a wonderful setup for you.

The MVP takes a beating, and has a nice long battery life. Don't worry about high wattage stuff right now. I didn't get into high wattage till I vaped for 5 years, it's natural progression. The Aspire Nautilus tank used to be not cheap, now they're about $30, and a pack of heads from discountvapers.com will run about $10 for a pack of five.

Honestly I can't say I would recommend anything else for a new vaper. It's a solid setup that I even bought my mother, and she smoked for 46 years. She's been smoke free since 2013, and started on a 510 kit from liquidxpress. She loves the mvp and nautilus. My sister has an MVP, and so do I. I don't use it much anymore, but it makes for one hell of a backup. That and my trusty Zmax and Provari 1.5.
 
Aspire Nautilus or Aspire Nautilus Mini are both great like them both. like the k 1 too they're about $8. if you don't want to change battery mvp 2 a good choice .it rugged.my wife likes her i stick .ild get i stick 30 or mvp20 it would give room to grow. Variable Voltage/Wattage Ecig Mods has them now.
good luck i know its a hard choice.

I'm a little concerned with the Nautilus price though ($30). How does it compare to cheaper tanks, does it warrant the $30 price point? And how often do tanks have to be replaced normally?

Also, the iStick 30 says it has the built-in battery with a usb charger and wall adapter, so I'm assuming you can just plug it into the wall with the charger and let it charge up. Where does the risk of a battery exploding or whatnot come into play?

How long does it take a battery to die, and once it does, do I have to just chuck the mod and buy a new one, or is there a way to replace built-in batteries?

Also, having room to grow is EXACTLY why I'm looking around so much and asking questions :) . I didn't want to make the mistake of buying a mod for $50 and not realizing its obsolete and outdated.

Exactly, good vape, with a low price. Works well.

Yeah, I'm thinking about going with the iStick30watt. I was actually going over it's specs again on the myvaporstore website and comparing it with the MVP 20 when I saw Shari's post and thought I'd ask a few more questions.



mech mods have no circuit broard, regulated do , coil is the wire ,wick is usually the cotton

So they ARE different then. I don't think I'll be trying to build my own coils anytime soon lol, seems like it would be a bit complicated.


The iStick is not a mech, it is a VV/VW, variable voltage/variable wattage. A mech is a mod with no electronics, just battery power straight to the coil. I think Shari was referring to one particular earlier post.

Ah ok, my apologies to Shari then. I must have misread her post. Although I did get some of my questions answered in the replies :)
 
Congratulations on quiting smoking and choosing an healthier alternative. I have a MVP 20 W its all that I need i use tanks on it from 6 watts to 12 watts and i use my dripping set up from 10 watts to 16 watts its all good. Sub ohm is great if you plan on blowing massive clouds of vapor so far i have used 2 ohm coils and it works great This thing does all I need for around 35 bucks 42 with shipping . I can control my watts and volts separately . It has a built in ohm reader and thats all I really need plus its a 2600 mah battery i go for 2 days before charging agian . forgot this point you can charge anything off this thing i was 3 hours from home and my cell phone died in a short time it was half charged and i still had enough charge to vape all day. I wonder if you can solar charge this thing when camping . this is a winner for me i will be able to do so much with this in the future.



Hey to Remi, Ty for the reply. I will eventually move up to better stuff, but for now, this seems to be working fine other then the battery life
 
I'm going to agree with ShariR and say that an MVP 2.0 with a Nautilus tank (not the mini) would be a wonderful setup for you.

The MVP takes a beating, and has a nice long battery life. Don't worry about high wattage stuff right now. I didn't get into high wattage till I vaped for 5 years, it's natural progression. The Aspire Nautilus tank used to be not cheap, now they're about $30, and a pack of heads from discountvapers.com will run about $10 for a pack of five.

Honestly, the istick 30 watt and a Nautilus BVC will work for you. It is a good set-up that may be all you ever need....but with just the the iStick and Nautilus, you just need to know how to change a coil and decide which juice you want....

Well right now I'm on the fence between the iStick 30W and the MVP 20 (not to be confused with the 2.0). I'm leaning towards either one for different reasons and can't decide :p.

As for the Nautilus BVC, I thought it was an atomizer. The eGo I have (as far as I can tell) only requires that I unscrew the atomizer and screw on a new one when necessary.

The "pack of heads" that you refer to, are those the atomizers that you replace it with? And where do the coils come into play with the Nautilus?
 

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Thank you for both of your replies :) . Your point may be pretty much proven solely due to the fact that I have no idea what anything you said means. I found an article that gives me a pretty bare bones explanation of what a mech is, but but I'm still not 100% sure. I didn't see anything on the iStick 30W page that said it was a mech or non-regulated (although I didn't see anything that said contrary to me either).

Thank you for your help, I DO appreciate both of your replies. That link you gave contains a LOT of information. But while I have you here, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind answering a few (or not so few) more questions you raised :) :

How do you tell if it is a mech?

I misspoke. A mech is going to be a tube that has no computer chip to control/regulate the voltage. It runs at what the battery voltage is so you have to build your coils to take advantage of the amount of voltage the battery is providing. Much better explanations in the Battitude blogs in that thread I provided you. I am not a good math person so not the one to ask for advice on this topic.

What are the problems with using sub-ohm, along with the benefits?

Again, I do not sub ohm. I know it is building your coils under 1 ohm. They are supposed to provide intense flavor and vapor. There are now a few mods out there that are controlled by a computer chip that will take sub ohm coils. That is going to take you some research or head over to the sub ohm threads and the people over there will help you out. I have tried a friend's .6 ohm build a couple of times. The flavor was quite intense and wonderful but I found it was not something I could do like I smoked. I vape like I used to smoke. A lot and often. :)

Also, what is the deal with coils? From what I can tell from the articles I've been looking through they're mainly in clearos right? What is the difference between the wicks and the coils, or is a coil literally the name for a coiled up wick?

There is a coil in pretty much every topper. It is what heats up the eliquid and turns it into vapor. It is exactly what it sounds like, a piece of wire that is fashioned into a coil and the wick is usually threaded through the center of the coil. The heads are little devices that have coils and wicks in them in one little package that you can screw into your topper. It is mostly with clearos. They are now just coming out with toppers that you can get sub ohm heads in. I am not familiar with them. The Atlantis and the Kanger Sub Ohm are 2 that I have heard about.

Would I have this problem with coils if I were to use an atomizer tank? I believe this eGo I have (Vapin Plus 1100 MAH) is an atomizer (it says it on the box at least). All I have to do is fill it up with liquid and it vapes for a while (2.5 ML tank but it recommends only going to 2.3 so it doesn't overflow into the center on accident).

9/10 you have a clearo or clearomizer. The head inside it has a coil (or 2) and wick and you buy the whole head and just screw a new one in when the one you are using loses flavor or dies.

The same article doesn't say anything about coils in an atomizer, although it does mention dripping. Does having a tank the can hold liquid like my eGo eliminate the need to drip an atomizer?

Now I can confuse you with a bunch of letters. lol For practical purposes all toppers have an atomizer in them to heat the liquid. The clearos where you can put a quantity of liquid in them allows you to vape for quite a time without dripping and juice. You just refill the tank with liquid and carry on.

An rda, rebuildable dripping atomizer, is the usually steel body with the coil/coils in it and a small well to hold anywhere from a few to up to 25 to 40 drops of liquid. These you can vape for a much shorter period of time. Depending on the eliquid, it can take from around 25 to 35 or so drops for a ml of liquid. So you will be dripping more juice into the atty more often and many of them will leak if you tip them or turn them upside down. Not usually convenient for out and about for all day.



Sorry for having so many questions, I'm like sitting on the fence of which one to purchase, and I was getting closer to the iStick 30W but you made some valid points, and the last thing I want to do is buy it and it explodes in my hand or something the first day I use it because I've set it up wrong.

The istick is a great, cheap little device that does have the computer chip in it so I seriously doubt you could blow your face off no matter how new at this you are. It does run a little hot and there is a big thread on here talking about it so it would be worth your time to do a little reading on it. I would be 20watt would be more than enough to run most any clearo or tank in a 1.5 to 2.5 ohm build which is where most of your clearos heads would be mfg at. Personally, I would go with the 20watt MVP for starters. It is a little bigger but it has a rock solid history and mfg in back of it.

Just for your info. I have been vaping for one and a half years. I am an old lady of 58. My eyes are bad and my hands have arithritis. I use super duper reading glasses and an Artistic Wire Gizmo coil winder I picked up in the jewelry dept of Hobby Lobby for about $10. I love building my own coils and setting up my Kayfuns. It is fun and I can change the taste of my vape whenever I want to. You will find that different vendors juices and different flavors will taste like different juices at various temperatures. I like tobaccos hotter than fruits and desserts.

This can get very confusing. That is why I suggest you keep it simple and get used to vaping instead of smoking. Finding the juice you like that satisfies you can be a bigger challenge than the gear. Get something above intro ego level where you can adjust the temp of your juice and control it and a good clearo like a Nautilus and start trying out flavors. I do suggest you go to a vape shop and look over some gear. If they try to sell you mech and a .25ohm topper and unbranded batteries, walk out.

If you want to quit smoking vaping will work. Most people start with ego type devices and work their way up. That can be expensive if you are handy and willing to learn and do the homework.

Please feel free to PM me if you have more questions. I would love to help you and your wife get off those cigarettes and be successful in vaping.

This is a great community of people here. You will be helped by many. Sometimes just reading the threads (especially some older posts) can tell you more in the beginning than you think.

As you can see, I am not one of the newer, hipper, must try all the new stuff people.
 

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Well right now I'm on the fence between the iStick 30W and the MVP 20 (not to be confused with the 2.0). I'm leaning towards either one for different reasons and can't decide :p.

As for the Nautilus BVC, I thought it was an atomizer. The eGo I have (as far as I can tell) only requires that I unscrew the atomizer and screw on a new one when necessary.

The "pack of heads" that you refer to, are those the atomizers that you replace it with? And where do the coils come into play with the Nautilus?

Atomizer (contains the coil). These are what you will replace inside the Nautilus tank.

eGo is a battery style, typically thin like a pen.

The 30 watt will give you more room to grow, and longer before you will need to upgrade.
 
The istick is a great, cheap little device that does have the computer chip in it so I seriously doubt you could blow your face off no matter how new at this you are. It does run a little hot and there is a big thread on here talking about it so it would be worth your time to do a little reading on it. I would be 20watt would be more than enough to run most any clearo or tank in a 1.5 to 2.5 ohm build which is where most of your clearos heads would be mfg at. Personally, I would go with the 20watt MVP for starters. It is a little bigger but it has a rock solid history and mfg in back of it.

Just for your info. I have been vaping for one and a half years. I am an old lady of 58. My eyes are bad and my hands have arithritis. I use super duper reading glasses and an Artistic Wire Gizmo coil winder I picked up in the jewelry dept of Hobby Lobby for about $10. I love building my own coils and setting up my Kayfuns. It is fun and I can change the taste of my vape whenever I want to. You will find that different vendors juices and different flavors will taste like different juices at various temperatures. I like tobaccos hotter than fruits and desserts.

This can get very confusing. That is why I suggest you keep it simple and get used to vaping instead of smoking. Finding the juice you like that satisfies you can be a bigger challenge than the gear. Get something above intro ego level where you can adjust the temp of your juice and control it and a good clearo like a Nautilus and start trying out flavors. I do suggest you go to a vape shop and look over some gear. If they try to sell you mech and a .25ohm topper and unbranded batteries, walk out.

If you want to quit smoking vaping will work. Most people start with ego type devices and work their way up. That can be expensive if you are handy and willing to learn and do the homework.

Please feel free to PM me if you have more questions. I would love to help you and your wife get off those cigarettes and be successful in vaping.

This is a great community of people here. You will be helped by many. Sometimes just reading the threads (especially some older posts) can tell you more in the beginning than you think.

As you can see, I am not one of the newer, hipper, must try all the new stuff people.




ShariR, You have just made my entry to vaping 100 x easier. TY for sharing your knowledge
 
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One very important thing I have not seen mentioned here to you is that you MUST have backups for everything. You need to have a second device to use for when you are charging the first one, or if it breaks or you lose it. You must have several toppers to have some empty and clean and ready to go if you need to change your juice or clean the one you are using. Plus you will want to have a couple loaded up with different flavors and maybe different nicotine levels.

You will be surprised, once you start really vaping full time, on how quickly all this will make sense and how fast you figure things out once you are doing it.
 

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ShariR, You have just made my entry to vaping 100 x easier. TY for sharing your knowledge

How sweet of you to say that bryonir. Thank you. I am not a techie person but I try my best to explain things as clearly as I can. I want people to be successful in their vaping. It can be quite an enjoyable experience or quite frustrating.

Remember, backups for your backups!
 
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