Brittle bottles?

[beckdg]

Have your juice or nic bottles become brittle and cracked, shattered, imploded or exploded due to storage in the freezer?

If so, please tell details.

What plastic were you using?

What juice or nic was it?

Have you ordered the same again and did they change their bottles and fix the issue?

Thanks.

Tapatyped

 

[Bunnykiller]

no issues here... the bottles I use are made from LDPE...

 

[Rossum]

No, but I store almost everything in glass bottles. The only exception is four (now three) 120ml bottles of WL nic that I got almost 3 years ago that, got buried under other stuff in the freezer and forgotten about for 2-1/2 years. When I found them again, I did a facepalm thinking that nic was likely ruined. Wrong. It's fine. The bottles themselves are relatively thick #1 PET plastic, which apparently isn't a problem in the freezer.

 

[pwheeler]

I've never stored my nic in plastic, whether PET or LDPE. Always have used glass. But I have frozen other things in those types of materials without a problem.

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[zoiDman]

Have your juice or nic bottles become brittle and cracked, shattered, imploded or exploded due to storage in the freezer?

If so, please tell details.

What plastic were you using?

What juice or nic was it?

Have you ordered the same again and did they change their bottles and fix the issue?

Thanks.

Tapatyped

One thing that you can run into when using "Plastic" containers is if the container was Not Intended to be used with a Consumable Product, there really aren't any Requirements/Standards for the amount of 1st Use Raw Stock that must be used to Make the Container.

And a Recycled "Plastic" will/can contain certain Percentages of Other Plastics. Which can Effect the Physical Properties of the Container.

So your container may say it is LDPE, but it may contain a small Percentage of HDPE. Or Polypropylene. Or Polystyrene. Or Polyethylene Terephthalate. Or some unknown Hodge Podge of Monomers.

The Long and the Short of it is if you Can't Trace the "Certs" back to a Container OEM, it can be Difficult to know Exactly what you are have when you hold a "Plastic" Container in your Hand.

 

[beckdg]

One thing that you can run into when using "Plastic" containers is if the container was Not Intended to be used with a Consumable Product, there really aren't any Requirements/Standards for the amount of 1st Use Raw Stock that must be used to Make the Container.

And a Recycled "Plastic" will/can contain certain Percentages of Other Plastics. Which can Effect the Physical Properties of the Container.

So your container may say it is LDPE, but it may contain a small Percentage of HDPE. Or Polypropylene. Or Polystyrene. Or Polyethylene Terephthalate. Or some unknown Hodge Podge of Monomers.

The Long and the Short of it is if you Can't Trace the "Certs" back to a Container OEM, it can be Difficult to know Exactly what you are have when you hold a "Plastic" Container in your Hand.

I'll take that as a "no".

Tapatyped

 

[zoiDman]

Can't say Yes of No. Because I Don't Freeze Nicotine Base in "Plastic" Containers.

 

[beckdg]

Can't say Yes of No. Because I Don't Freeze Nicotine Base in "Plastic" Containers.

I got that from your first reply.

And that sir is a confirmed, definite "no".

I'm a simple man, z.

Tapatyped

 

[zoiDman]

OK...

 

[Kprthevapr]

I haven't had the "brittle bottle" issue with storing nic in the plastic jug it came in, in the freezer. Its been there for almost a year, I take it for less than five minutes, never really has time to "warm up"

No brittle bottles here

 

[beckdg]

OK...

Feel free to discuss.

Education is always a plus.

But it is off topic even if educational and welcomed.

Topic is simple.

Have your vaping supply bottles become brittle in cold storage?

That simple.

I was told only plastic #1 and #2 would remain flexible in a freezer.

That would be only HDPE and PET.

Me?

I have:
PET liters in the freezer.
Silicone, HDPE and LDPE bottles that have sustained near to sub zero temps for days.

All have remained flexible and not brittle.

Tapatyped

 

[Alien Traveler]

LDPE will not became brittle, but it has worst permeability for oxygen. It should be bad for storage.
http://ac.els-cdn.com/B978188420797...t=1486584963_c1557986b6b99dee1be2e82f9db08ae6
(see page 6)

 

[beckdg]

LDPE will not became brittle, but it has worst permeability for oxygen. It should be bad for storage.
http://ac.els-cdn.com/B978188420797...t=1486584963_c1557986b6b99dee1be2e82f9db08ae6
(see page 6)

Sounds like the freezer would be a good option for someone who might want to make up a couple small batches of various juices in their dropper bottles then.

Since they'd sit on the counter at room temp permeating and exchanging O2 faster anyhow.

thanks.

Tapatyped

 

[mongo74]

As long as the bottle is made from high, medium or low denisty polyethylene it will remain impact resistant at low temperatures with a low compromisation of structural integrity below zero. Most bottles made from these have an additive known as EVA for exactly this reason. Polycarbonate and PETG have low brittleness at freezing temperatures as well.

Polypropylene, PVC and styrene based plastics have loose molecular structures that go hypercriical at freezing temperatures and will damage easily. Make sure the bottles are not made from these materials (the manufacturer should have detailed MSDS reports on the bottles they use)

Before I'm called a know it all, I worked in the polyethylene manufacturing business for 15 years.

 

[Alter]

Too much Mombo Jombo about plastics and its qualities. I don't care what kind of plastic it is all my concentrates got transferred into glass bottles and put into the freezer, same with my nicotine. I build my mixes in glass jars, store them in glass jars and use 30ml plastic jugs to dispense my juice into the atty because I haven't figured out a way to squeeze the juice out of the glass bottles yet.