Built in batteries question

[tgardner23]

Ok so I've been going back and forth on getting the cool fire 4 plus with the apex tank or the topbox mini.

I think I decided on the cool fire. But I've never owned a mod with a built in battery and I read that it has a excellent battery life. I'm just curious how many times can these built in battery be charged and drained before it has terrible battery life. I'm just curious because with the topbox once you battery life's not doing great you can always buy a new 18650 or whatever sozed battery. But with the cool fire you can't just buy a new battery.

Just curious if anyone suggest built in batteries or not built in batteries more.


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[stalkster]

I personally prefer swap-able batteries, having to charge the whole device eh. Also assuming the mod is taking care of most likely the batteries will die before the chip/other components.

 

[Hotwire]

I have the CF4 and highly recommend it - if you're not an all day chain vaper.

I only vape about 4ml a day. About 1ml on nautilus mini 1.8ohm and 15W. Then at night 3ml at 30W and .5ohm. It will last two days before I need to recharge.

If you vape all day long at sub ohm, it will last you about 5 hours or so and then you'll have to charge it which will take at least and hour or two of non vaping unless you are happy vaping it while it is connected to the charger, using pass through mode.

If like me you are a light to medium vaper, it is excellent as the build quality is second to none in the watt and price range and you don't have to fiddle round with changing batteries. No plastic, easy to use, simple interface and the buttons do not rattle. A really solid nice looking PV, which feels great in my hand.

Tried Kanger sub box and Joytech e-vic in stores before I bought my coolfire 4, and they felt cheap in comparison, rattled, made of plastic.... I picked up the cool fire 4 and it just felt awesome in comparison, heavy, solid, snug. Dropped it lots of times and not a scratch. Had it 4 months so far and love it. Works great with my nautilus mini and fits a sub tank nano perfectly and vapes them both very nicely.

I could throw my CF4 at a brick wall and am confident it would still work fine afterwards, it's like the Honda of 40W range VV/VW personal vaporizers at that price range...

 

[Tommy-Chi]

Hey!

I never bought a device which had a battery that was not supposed to be irreplaceable, or difficult to replace. My reasoning is that many devices that have built in rechargers we are told not to recharge them in the device b/c they have been known to have problems. That is my line of reasoning.

 

[Rizzyking]

I'm a cheap git so only buy replaceable battery mods as the idea of throwing out a perfectly good mod because the battery dies just isn't something I want to do but many others are not as cheap and don't care about that aspect.

 

[r77r7r]

I've always used built - in batteries, never had a bad battery. Buying battery cells, chargers, and doing mod maintenance isn't for me. They charge so fast now, I never have to have a Charging Session. Just plug it in for a bit once in a while, like a device.

 

[sparkky1]

Relying on your budget mod to do all the "un" balanced charging, and having to toss the mod after 300 cycles is kind of a no brainer to me ....................

 

[r77r7r]

Seems like the line is drawn between casual user and collectors /hobby?

 

[Rizzyking]

Part of my mindset when buying now is how much work will it be to repair if things go really bad and regulated devices of the power I like are no longer available for purchase because of regulation and having the extra work of replacing batteries in mods like the istick 50 is just extra for no real benefit. I know most feel we will be able to buy everything but nic base after regulation but I'd rather not rely on the common sense of politicians that's just far too risky and very few felt a couple of years ago things would be as bleak as they are now so my plan is replaceable battery mods that I might have to solder a new chip into.

 

[sparkky1]

Seems like the line is drawn between casual user and collectors /hobby?

A 20.00 $ balanced / optional amp charger and stops with full 4.2v, that last you years and 5.00 $ battery's, I would hardly call that a hobby, it's called cheap insurance .............

 

[Capt.shay]

The CFIV is a great device and is super user friendly. Just plug it in like your phone. By the time your battery bites the dust, vaping will have moved on so much that the device will be outdated. When considering cost of a replaceable battery mods, remember to consider the battery(not $5 please) and a charger. Then you will need more batteries as those wear out. As far as the possible FDA Regs., we will have a couple of years grace period. I'll worry about it then. The sky has not fallen.

I have several of both types of mods and would highly recommend the CFIV

 

[sparkky1]

The CFIV is a great device and is super user friendly. Just plug it in like your phone. By the time your battery bites the dust, vaping will have moved on so much that the device will be outdated. When considering cost of a replaceable battery mods, remember to consider the battery(not $5 please) and a charger. Then you will need more batteries as those wear out. As far as the possible FDA Regs., we will have a couple of years grace period. I'll worry about it then. The sky has not fallen.

I have several of both types of mods and would highly recommend the CFIV

I don't know where you buy battery's .......................... you will get an easy 400 or more cycles out of properly charged INR
LG HG2 $5.99 3000mAh High Drain IMR Battery INR18650HG2
18650 Samsung INR18650-25R R5 2500mAh (GREEN) High Discharge FLAT Top - Batteries - Batteries, Chargers, and PowerPax Carriers
By the way, what's the Max. Continuous Discharging Current rating of the cool fire 4 plus battery ?

 

[ZCAR1]

Just bought 2 of the Orbtronic HG2's. With shipping, they were about $7.50 each.

 

[edyle]

Ok so I've been going back and forth on getting the cool fire 4 plus with the apex tank or the topbox mini.

I think I decided on the cool fire. But I've never owned a mod with a built in battery and I read that it has a excellent battery life. I'm just curious how many times can these built in battery be charged and drained before it has terrible battery life. I'm just curious because with the topbox once you battery life's not doing great you can always buy a new 18650 or whatever sozed battery. But with the cool fire you can't just buy a new battery.

Just curious if anyone suggest built in batteries or not built in batteries more.


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Is it a mod with a built in battery?
Or is it a battery with some electronics slapped on ?

 

[r77r7r]

But with the cool fire you can't just buy a new battery.

 

[MaxwellPink]

I hear lots of good things about the CF4. I, personally, do not own one, however, as I recall they only go down to 6 watts and sometimes I like a cooler vape.

One other thing to keep in mind about mods with non-replaceable batteries - they're usually charged via a USB connection. I loved my iStick 30W dearly. It was the most compact mod I had. But a couple of weeks ago one of my kittens was playing with the charging cord. Before I could grab the kitten it pulled down the charging iStick, damaging the USB connection. Past experience with damaged USB connectors (about 10 years ago) resulted in a fried computer power supply. Needless to say that mod has been replaced - with one that use a replaceable battery.

 

[edyle]

My joyetech vtc mini uses a standard 18650 replaceable battery, but it can charge the battery via usb port.
As for low limit, it goes down all the way to 1 watt.

The key thing about a 'fixed battery mod' is cost. If you get a really economical buy, even though it starts at 5 watts, only does vv, or only does vw but not both, has a fairly restricted ohm range, it can be worth it for somebody who is just starting out.

 

[David Wolf]

The key thing about a 'fixed battery mod' is cost. If you get a really economical buy, even though it starts at 5 watts, only does vv, or only does vw but not both, has a fairly restricted ohm range, it can be worth it for somebody who is just starting out.

Or even someone experienced who likes his Istick 30 & 40 W because they can't be beat for cost, small size and still have a decent range for MTL vaping

 

[mcol]

Love my Coolfires.
I have my own theories regarding built in versus swappable, I don't
think any one is right or anyone is wrong, it's just what you prefer.

 

[smacuser]

I'm just curious how many times can these built in battery be charged and drained before it has terrible battery life.

I've always gone with the expectation of 300 charges if it's a quality device.